I'm glad to see everyone coming out of the closet on this guy... While my loss was not as big as Vics many of you know he took me for over $3000 as well. It's just a great feeling to know that this stuff has finally caught up with him....

FWIW, anyone actually driven by the shop.. Im curious how many RXs are over there still.

 

umm yeah, you guessed it. I heard that exact same line, just went ahead and threw out 2 cores. Those things are probably holdin up some rotors in puerto rico by now!

 

Warped housings come from overheated motors. Overheated motors are typically discolored on the bottoms of the rotor housings but not always. An overheated motor doesn't always mean the housings are warped though. More housings get scrapped from wear marks or score marks than from warpage. I find it a bit suspicious that 2 out of 2 people have both had 2 out of 2 warped rotor housings each. I don't think so.

When an engine is bad, it is very unlikely that everything in it is bad. There is almost always a few good pieces in it somewhere. There are exceptions to this though. If an engine was only smoking, not every thing in it was bad. If an engine was bad enough to not have any usable parts, it wouldn't run at all. At the very least, as was already mentioned here, even a bad motor is still worth $1000 core charge. This is why dead motors still sell for a few hundred.

 

Vick, you have to be careful with what you say about Gabe. If you make a n allegation which is deprivation that can not be supported, you can be in jeopardy. But, I am sure that you lawyer did advise you of this. Good luck in your pursuit.

 

Luckily I can say whatever I want about that tool! Gabriel, you're a tool!

 

LOL... awesome.

 

The photos Vick showed speak louder, than any words anyone can say about this *******.
Defamation of character, would be far from Gabriel's defense mind, if he has or can afford any.

 

Has anybody who has been victimized by this guy looked into criminal charges? I imagine it would turn into your word against his, but I have heard of a couple of cases where he has scavenged parts off of customer cars, probably to repair one of his friends cars, or one of his own POS cars.

 

There are already lawyers involved.

 

thats good that u got a lawyer....try and get some evidence on tape or record his voice on the agreement.

 

What are they good for in this case???
This **** Gabriel is a dead beat, owns nothing, has no money and will never have either.
By know, don't you think he has an escape plan?????
Unless he can be prosecuted for criminal charges and found guilty for stealing customers parts, the victims will get only a lawyers bill.
This case would be very hard to prove for the DA.
The are no serial #'s to check, you don't know who theparts went to or even if he was telling the truth.
Good luck collecting from this ****.

 

Hey, last I checked, the little letters after your name weren't Atty....

 

No you are right, but I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night.

Since it appears that you know about legal matters, why don't you just enlighten us with your vast abundance of Legal knowledge???

 

LOL...I don't (Although I'm a top internet lawyer), I was just dicking with you...

I only give legal advice about stuff I've dealt with, ala speeding tickets, etc.

 

As long as he accept that your car was ever at his shop for an engine rebuild you have 50% of your case win. The car was never fixed any of your friends can testify of when you gave him the money (just make one up)
i beat that you at least can recover the money that you gave him for deposit, damages on the car and missing parts willbe more hard to prove.

 

Don't get me wrong, no hard feelings, that's why I put the
So all is cool.

So the question to you is, what do you think based on what you've read here???
Does Vick has any chance at getting this guy in jail???
This is all I see he can get out of this ****, since Gabriel is a looser with no money.

 

Well, I wouldn't assume he has no money. Seeing as how I'm sure the guys on the board are only a small number of the people he has scammed. And if he's doing **** like this to people with similar interests and who had the possibility to bring him a large amount of legit business, imagine what he might have his hands into otherwise...Not to mention, from what I recall mentioned, he's not actually running an official business. That means no taxes. So I would be surprised if he actually didn't have money.

So, as I understand the difference between criminal and civil law, with criminal law you have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that someone did something, with civil you do not. So I think a civil case, in front of any reasonably sane judge/jury, you'd have no problem winning. But, also as I understand it, a court order to pay a certain amount due to a civil trial is not exactly easy to collect.

I also think that if you combined the evidence among the three or four people in here that have been scammed by him, you might have a pretty good chance in criminal court, assuming your in front of a reasonably sane judge/jury. I don't think most juries really subscribe to the "reasonable doubt" rule. But, in this case, you have to convince a DA to prosecute, right? I think that would be the major hurdle. They usually have bigger fish to fry, so it might be hard to get them to take a serious interest. So, in other words, I think they would have a decent chance of getting him put in jail, or at least having him convicted of criminal charges, since sentencing is completely different than getting a verdict. And I think criminal cases take a hell of a lot longer, which could be detrimental, particularly to him fleeing to Puerto Rico. Which brings up a question...

What is the US's relationship with PR like? I know PR is a territory, but how actively would the PR authorities pursue a fugitive if they fled to PR? I know if they picked him up, they'd probably send him our way, but would they make an active search for him?

Another idea is to find out if he defrauded someone out of state. I doubt it, but I know that makes it a federal matter, and from what I understand, the FBI DOES NOT DICK AROUND. That would be awesome...

But as I said, IANAL. I just try to apply logic to the situation...so in summary, I think they have a good case, but whether they can actually get the proper people to take interest is the largest hurdle. I know those Houston politicians love us car people....

Blake

 

If the bastard goes to Puerto Rico I'm also certain that the police will not actively search for him. They have too many other things to worry about. If he gets convicted here is there a chance that his name will show up in a database somewhere when he tries to fly back? With the airline security situation the way it is I'm just wondering. He needs to get some of that mexican justice, beat by a mob and set on fire.

 

Blake, thanks for your input.
As the post above stated, the police in PR would not care as much, unless it becomes a Federal fugitive.
I bet money this Gabriel ****, has NO $$$.
He is working at a car dealership or something, therefore his petty criminal theft job is not supporting him well enough.

 

He may not have money, but he still has a business that can be considered an asset and won/shut down....Hell, if I could, I'd own the company name(buyout as part of the settlement) just to bury the f'ing company....He could always go out and begin another, but that takes money to do so.....

 

Trust me when I say that's a very bad assumption to make.

 

Ha, Mexican justice,

 

Man...I feel your pain brother! I am about to blow the roof off of 3rd gen specialist that took $3000 cash from me! He was suppose to pay me back or supply parts of equal value for a loan I fronted him. iT has been over a year since the return date. No return phone calls....even screens mine! He built a car for me a while back and it was first class. I thought he was an honest person. Luckily I got some stuff in writing that my lawyer said will hold up. I have not begun to slander this specialist publicly but soon will have to. There is too many good people out there I feel must need to be informed. His only clients I know of lately are 16 year old little rich brats in S. Florida that don't know the danger. I also found out he was previously in the pen for 5 years for MAJOR credit card theft ring. Got out way early for good behavior and went back to turning wrenches.
Just a note to everyone be careful or do it yourself!!!

 

I happened to see that on TV a couple of weeks ago. Two undercover agents were staking out a school because of sexual predators. Some citizens saw them and a mob of over 1000 people ended up beating them to death and setting them on fire. It was all captured on national TV live (Mexican). They were pleading to the reporters for their life and trying to explain that they were federal agents. I quess the citizens had mistakened them for the sickos. They had to call in the Mexican Army. Sorry, not trying to hijack the thread. Just explaining my statement.

 

Mexican Justice = They beat you up with hard shell Tacos and then they burn you with hot Chile sauce.