Dream Theater

Hey guys. I've been thinking about it recently and I need to know what it generally costs to convert to single turbo. I know there are various set-ups that are applicable, but can you guys give me a round about compilation of the parts and prices needed to go single please? Thank you

Mr. "O"

hondahater

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too much....

classicauto

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$5-7K should accomplish quite a bit.

It really depends on whats already done. Taking a STOCK car to single turbo would be in the 10K range time you add up the little sutff. but if you're running a PFC, large injectors/pump....you can save some money on that stuff.

HUGE VARIANCE.

djseven

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Doing it yourself, you can do it around $5k and have a nice setup. You can do it for less but then you will end up needing a new engine which in the end will cost more. Doing the work yourself saves a bunch.

ivegonemad

i see.....




what you did there......

i had to when you posted that...it really is too much....but it all depends how much you want out of the single set up but as far as my build is ive spent about,still incomplete, 10k so far...but IMO it really is up to you how much are you willing to spend

Jason

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Stock car to single turbo can be done at $8-$10k depending on parts.

Addicted Performance

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Really? honestly ive gotten ALL of my parts ( one being a brand new borgwarner 62 mm turbo ) and im only at around 2700..... but i am also going to attempt to do it myself. but i only want around 400 whp

Oh ya i was stock too

BC-FD3S

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Ya, these prices are way out there... so far I'm not very high at all.

-PFC w/commander $700
-innovate w/b $300
-gauges $300
-HKS cast mani $350
-To4e $600
-1300cc injectors $250
-stainless OMP lines $ 90
-FPR $120
-SupraTT pump $175
-ACT clutch $650
-KOYO $450
-IC + pipe fab... approx $800
-DPipe fab... approx $300

-keep about $1000 for odds and ends like fuel line, AN fittings etc.

That add's up to just over $5000

Then install everything myself and tuning will be what... $500-$600

JHew84

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Define "all of your parts"? is the car currently running? reliably? While I disagree that $8-10K is required, $2700 will more than likely result in a substandard build. Considering a PFC alone runs 1/3 of the total cost .

There was a good post out there that broke down different costs VERY well, I'll see if I can find it and post a link.

I think I'm at ~$4-5K right now, bought a brand new kit, have had to replace various things with the kit, I also purchased all new hardware aside from the PFC which I already had. Realistically I've got the whole thing done (and done right!) for easily under $6K. I will say that doing your research and making a shopping list of ALL the parts you will need beforehand will save a fair amount of money when it comes to shipping costs, it frustrates me to no end having to turn around and place 2 orders with like ATP turbo for a couple random fittings and end up spending $8 in shipping each time :grr:.

Addicted Performance

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Ya 2700 is prob a lil low. maybe closer to 3800. But i have a post about what im doing, but i guess no one wants to look at it.

JHew84

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That list isn't even complete yet! From a quick glance you're still missing a manifold, downpipe, boost controller, I'm sure other things as well. And if you haven't already sourced all your nuts/bolts/fittings/block off plates/lines/heat shielding/etc you will be EXTREMELY surprised at how quickly that stuff starts to add up. Hell I probably have over $200 alone in heat sheathing and other wraps that aid in different ways. I would imagine you easily have another $1000-$2000 ahead of yourself before that project is complete, so be prepared!

fritts

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It really depends on what level of bolt ons you already have.

You need these parts in general before going single

EM
Clutch
IC
Fuel Upgrade
Exhaust
Fuel Pump
WBO2

The cost of singles from that point would include only

Manifold (100-1000)
Turbo (600-?)
Downpipe Fab (100-?)
IC Pipe Fab (50-?)
Oil/Water Lines (100-?)
Couplers/Clamps (50-?)
Filter (40-?)

A lot of this stuff can be kept to a minimal cost if you have the capabilities of doing it yourself ie manifold, downpipe, IC piping, oil/water lines. Otherwise you will be paying a shop quite a bit to have those items made or purchased built.

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20-25K to do it right.



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Originally Posted by Dream Theater
Whats a single conversion usually run?"



Thats the response I got from a member who I WAS going to buy some 99 spec twins from... I'm still laughing from the sheer enjoyment of it all. Anywho, yeah I'm doing the installations myself as I am a true gear head and not a "Paper mechanic".

I have the standard bolt-ons for the car already and the motor is in "Full- No Turning Back - Non Sequential". That makes for alot of fun. So far my first thing to get is the PFC/Commander and then its going to be a slow and steady process to do a "complete" job. Fabing pipes I can do myself and then the other stuff is just a matter of taking time and having patience. All in all why would I pay someone to do that physical work I can do myself? Xactly!

ThanX for the input guys...keep it coming!

Jason

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Here is a list of minimum requirements for single turbo

1. Turbo Kit ($1800-$4000)
2. Intercooler Upgrade ($500-$1800)
3. Fuel System ($700) Includes Pump
4. Ignition system ($400) Twin power
5. Exhaust system ($500) Catback + Midpipe
6. EMS Upgrade ($900) Power FC
7. Clutch Upgrade ($450)
8. Boost Controller ($250)

Low side is $5500 and that is if you do all the work.

Dream Theater

Brilliant, brilliant... ThanX everyone. Yeah I have a 3" pipe on the car already and I have a boost controller. Gonne go to EBC obvously, but I was worried about FEEDING the system properly.

Can anyone suggest a few drop in TK's?

hondahater

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the 3" pipe is for the old twins?

Jodeny

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I just did it. I was stupid enough to buy a "kit" from an rx7 parts store because I was too busy to do otherwise. After piecing all of the little things together- expect to pay around 7-10k to do it properly.

ivegonemad

it also depends if you buy new or used parts....

ivegonemad

yup plus lets not forget the engine rebuild...if at that..

TAILWHIPPER

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I just finished my single turbo build last week.I went all out!
I live in Ireland and 7's are quite scarce so alot of stuff came from japan and the U.S. so shipping was heavy enough.I had a pfc,Greddy fmic and a full exhaust system to start with.
I did a compression test and the readings wern't good enough to hold a single turbo so I had to start with a fresh rebuild which is €3000.
I purchased a second hand greddy t78 turbo kit from Japan in mint cond which was €1700.
I went for street port where I had to send my plates to the UK to get ported,€450.
I uprated sec inj to 1600cc and a fpr which I got from Jason and a walboro up fuel pump,$700.
Needed a boost controller so went with greddy profec 2 which was €230.
I went for an exedy clutch which I got for €400.
Also needed new housings but got them for free.

In total it worked out;(not incl port)
Build 3000
turbo 1700
fuel 550
clutch 400
bc 230
bits 500.

Close to €7000 which is just $9000 so too much is right!!!

Madee

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I'm at about $14K and not done yet. I picked up many of the items slightly used.
It's the constant stream of small stuff that kills you. You can do the gauges for $300, but if you want dual egts, boost gauge, proper water and oil gauges you are at about $1K.

Then, of course, with so much power you will not want the little 225s on the back so you put wider rubber on the back which necessitates larger rims and then you will want coilovers to properly adjust the ride height. You can go cheap and cut the springs but do you want to?

You will also need ignition upgrades, different plugs and wires and probably an injector driver. Then you will want the datalogit and a laptop to monitor and log everything.

Going to run race gas when you turn up the boost or will you use AI?

You won't want the stock flywheel either so you will get the ACT S/S like most of us and drop $800-$1000 on flywheel/clutch.

All of this is parts, no labor costs. Look at all the "My engine is blown" or "Going LS1" threads if you need convincing you need all this stuff. I'm just a backyard mechanic and don't know much about this but read this Forum a bit and see how many bargain/cheap single upgrades have resulted in blown engines/ruined cars.

Dream Theater

Ok here's a list of whats on the car with a twin set-up as is...

Stock ECU (Booooo)
Stock Clutch (Boooo)
3" from Ex Manifold back ( Yes this would include the 3" DP )
Water Temp and Boost Gauge
Boost Controller (EBC)
Full Non Sequential Set-up
Engine Rebuid 4K Miles ago

Sooooo yeah I'm knockin on the door, just hope to get in. I really do appreciate the feedback. It gives me a measure as to where to go with all this and how to properly get to where I wanna go.

Dream Theater

OK so after thinking about it and deliberating with my team. It's nonsensical (yes it's not a word lol )to go single turbo for me. Gonna go BNR's and call it a day. For the application 300+ will be perfectly fine.

Thanks all. By the way what supporting mods should I go for?

Addicted Performance

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So what exactly am i doing wrong here....... ive about gotten all the parts i need and right around 3200.... i got brand new turbo and manifold and all my other stuff was good used parts. including clutch, injectors, power fc, wastegate, BOV, Downpipe, shortshifter, greddy two row front mount, fuel pump, new radiator, and fan mod. and manuel boost controller, and full exhaust

classicauto

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Well you must be finding awesome deals.

You listed 14 items and $3200 spent. Math says you've spent ~$228 on each item.............IMO thats an exception to the rule if everything you listed is true