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Old Apr 23, 2008 | 08:53 PM
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here is the description why I said that it is made by bosch..

Model: BFP-PF1
Shipping Weight: 1lbs
14 Units in Stock
Manufactured by: Bosch Motorsports

unless Bosch Motorsports is a different company then I am wrong

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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 12:26 AM
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well im my opinin i think the same as you do, probably was a defective unit, also i heard that the position of the pump or the angle that is mounted can compromise the socket in the case of a powerfull pump as the 044. but inmy case that i didnt order the sockets from jayracing i will prefer ordering the ones at pegasus racing that its proved that will not colapse, im still waiting on the reply of jayracing according on this particular case.
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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by 13bmaniac
well im my opinin i think the same as you do, probably was a defective unit, also i heard that the position of the pump or the angle that is mounted can compromise the socket in the case of a powerfull pump as the 044. but inmy case that i didnt order the sockets from jayracing i will prefer ordering the ones at pegasus racing that its proved that will not colapse, im still waiting on the reply of jayracing according on this particular case.
Please do update us on Jay racings reply.
The pegasus looks like a good option, but the hole is a bit central and depending on positiong of the pump in the tank it may not quite sit as well as it could.


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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 02:46 PM
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The one I got from Jayracing looks exactly like that one from Pegasus racing.

The "fs 1hdw52" on the package looks like a part number by the company Fuel Safe.

The original plastic design shown on the Pegasus website has reliefs in the sides so the pump cannot suck the filter bottom up to the pump inlet and horribly restrict flow.

Unfortunately, the alum fittings we have been getting will do just this, the plastic frame on the outside cannot stop the pump from sucking the bottom of the filter up to the inlet.

here is the description why I said that it is made by bosch..

Model: BFP-PF1
Shipping Weight: 1lbs
14 Units in Stock
Manufactured by: Bosch Motorsports

unless Bosch Motorsports is a different company then I am wrong
I am pretty sure that is for Jayracing internal use so they know it goes with the Bosch Motorsports pump or it is listed like that to try and help sell it.
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 04:19 PM
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I took one for the team and came up for a solution for the manufacturing defect from the Jay Racing Bosch 044 Fuel sock!!!!

When its assembled, the anodized blue fitting on my fuel sock was pushed too deeply into the sock, causing it to be touching the bottom of the sock and choke out.

I cut open a Jay Racing sock to figure this out, but the fix is VERY simple.

When you get the brand new Jay Racing 044 fuel sock, pull theblue anodized fitting off the sock: It takes a bit of force, but she'll go; perhaps some leverage will help you out.

Once apart, you will then be able to put the blue fitting back into the sock, but just ever so slightly push it just about 1/8 of an inch into the sock.

The fitting should not hit the botom of the sock from then on out.

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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 05:12 PM
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Thank you!

I hadn't tried taking the sock off the adapter yet.

The other idea I had was to run a teflon tube into the fitting and have it bend 90 deg in the body of the sock.
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Old May 1, 2008 | 07:43 PM
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I took the adapter out of the sock filter and it was as I suspected.

It was just a metric to 1/4 npt fitting that happened to fit in the sock filter.

It fits in the hole so a monkey puts it in the hole and sells it, great engineering.

I am going to drill and chamfer holes perpendicular to the inlet at the bottom of the fitting so that I can push the fitting down into the sock to hold the sock open and still have a less restricted pick up.

Hmm, it will end up being a lot like the proper nylon fitting shown on the Pegasus site.
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Old May 2, 2008 | 07:58 AM
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I made my own 044 fuel filters because the Jay Racing filters don't fit in my surge tank, the filter element is 304 stainless dutch weave 60 micron.

I've been working on my in tank fuel pump setup on and off since last year... just when i think i'm done i again feel the need to change something






sorry for the big size, i cant re-size the pics because my old photoshop doesn't work with vista.
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Old May 2, 2008 | 03:45 PM
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I think you need to make one of those for the normal in tank setup...you have mad skills, BTW you AST works great as a Coolant OVerflow too....lol...
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Old May 2, 2008 | 07:35 PM
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wow thats beautiful kinetik
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Old May 2, 2008 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by KaiFD3S
I think you need to make one of those for the normal in tank setup...

AGREE!
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Old May 3, 2008 | 09:17 AM
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thanks guys, that was a good idea Kai im going to do the same on my car

my setup is for the stock fuel tank, the aluminum oval shaped surge tank replaces the stock plastic unit. i changed my mind on using an aftermarket fuel sending unit so now i need to rotate the pumps 90 degrees and mount closer to the edge of the lid so i can fit the stock fuel level sender.... what makes it look like its not for the stock tank?
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Old May 3, 2008 | 01:26 PM
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why not just keep the stock pump in the tank and put the Bosch in a collector tank? You could put a filter before the collector tank, this would solve all problems of filtration and fuel slosh
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Old May 3, 2008 | 04:57 PM
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why not just keep the stock pump in the tank and put the Bosch in a collector tank?
Some of us just can't think of a good place to put the external swirl pot and pumps.







Here is the Jay Racing "sock filter adapter" (Metric to NPT fitting) that I modded to work without being restricted by sucking the bottom of the sock in.

Now I will put an o-ring on the adapter for a good seal and push that all the way into the sock so that it holds the sock open.
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Old May 4, 2008 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by BLUE TII
Some of us just can't think of a good place to put the external swirl pot and pumps.







Here is the Jay Racing "sock filter adapter" (Metric to NPT fitting) that I modded to work without being restricted by sucking the bottom of the sock in.

Now I will put an o-ring on the adapter for a good seal and push that all the way into the sock so that it holds the sock open.

Once again, you come up with are top notch idea

Pleas post pics of it, once everything is said and done
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Old May 8, 2008 | 01:29 AM
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hello guys well thats a good idea indeed, i receive today my cj motorsports twin pump sistem and order the fuel socks from pegasus racing, but i need you guys help me choosing the right an fItings and fuel line size soletmeknow what you recomended me:
i have the twin pump from cj, dual bosch 044, and rx7 store xtreme fuel sistem but i dont know which line size to run from the pumps To the Y and them i pressume i will have to run a single bigger line to the injectors but i dont know which AN fittings for these 8AN 10AN 12AN i really suck at this so i will apreciate a litle help.
KAI I KNOW YOU WILL BE RUNNING THE CJ TWIN PUMP AS WELL SOLET ME KNOW WHAT YOU WILL USING FOR THESE, OF COURSE IF ANY OF YOU GUYS CAN GIVE ME VERY GOOD DIRECTON I WILL APRECIATE THAT.

THANKS
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Old May 22, 2008 | 07:17 PM
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The fix for the fuel sock we came up with was simple. The anodized part is indeed a simple adapter fitting and someone managed to find a sock that squeezed on adequately. The shank the sock squeezes on is too long though (as has been noted). The sock has an internal structure to keep it from collapsing so all we need to do is keep the shank from bottoming out in the sock (as has been noted). I didn't like the idea of simply pulling the sock down on the shank (effectively raising the pumps about a 1/4" higher in the tank) so I cut down the shank. The sock can now be pushed all the way on to the shank without fear of the shank bottoming out inside the sock. Final length of the shank is .200". Plenty left for the sock to attach to. After I took the picture I decided to go back and radius the entry to the fitting.

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Went ahead and took a pic before I reassembled everything.

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Old May 22, 2008 | 10:28 PM
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Thanks Ludwig, I'll modify mine tomorrow.
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Old May 22, 2008 | 11:10 PM
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BTW, thanks to SaabGuy for bringing this to our attention. This was the most convoluted "bolt-in" kit I've ever seen.
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Old May 23, 2008 | 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by C. Ludwig
The fix for the fuel sock we came up with was simple. The anodized part is indeed a simple adapter fitting and someone managed to find a sock that squeezed on adequately. The shank the sock squeezes on is too long though (as has been noted). The sock has an internal structure to keep it from collapsing so all we need to do is keep the shank from bottoming out in the sock (as has been noted). I didn't like the idea of simply pulling the sock down on the shank (effectively raising the pumps about a 1/4" higher in the tank) so I cut down the shank. The sock can now be pushed all the way on to the shank without fear of the shank bottoming out inside the sock. Final length of the shank is .200". Plenty left for the sock to attach to. After I took the picture I decided to go back and radius the entry to the fitting.



Sir, you are the man!

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Went ahead and took a pic before I reassembled everything.

Was done by hand? if so, you sir have some skills
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Old May 23, 2008 | 03:54 PM
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Just trying to get this clear, is this mod needed jus on the jar arcing fuel sock or on the pegasus one as well??


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Old May 23, 2008 | 05:03 PM
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My socks came from Jay Racing. Don't know anything about the Pegasus pieces.

And thanks for the compliments KNONFS. It was done by hand. You should see my port work. Also, after SAABGUY's observation I was wondering if the pumps would be quieter after doing this work. They were not. But I never thought they were that loud in the first place.

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Old May 30, 2008 | 01:39 PM
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They may not be quieter in all, but they will stop making pulse noises.

-I know right? That picture above looks like a shiny turbo or something.
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Old Jun 5, 2008 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by C. Ludwig

Is this a standard AN fitting that you can buy at Summit or Jegs? Or is there something special about it that makes it a $29 fitting from Pegasus?



Originally Posted by C. Ludwig

Also, how did you radius the inner portion of the fitting after you cut it down? Very good looking work. Curious how you achieved that finish as well as the procedure to actually radius it out.
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