turboR1

YEP get the 35r and go spank some poopra butt...

Broken09

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yup you'll definately like your 35R from A-Spec. I couldn't be happier with mine

rotorbrain

i had a to4e. . . not bad for the street, but it wont net you anymore power than the twins. it spools up nice for a single turbo. . . just a little small. . . i made 347 at around 14psi. again. . . it spools up fast and is a great STREET turbo. . . there are others though. like the 35rt4. it seems to be what youd be looking for. . . though, if you can get a deal on the to4e and thats the performance youre looking for. . . why not right?

however, if you feel that youll want more power later on (which you will), maybe a turbo with more capabilities is your better choice. the 35rt4 is a good choice in that sense. . . as you can always turn it up. as opposed to getting one. . . tuning it. . . being done with it. . . getting sick of it. . . and spending money on another kit to get what you want at that point.

there, weigh those odds

Alien

Your nutswingers should be ashamed of selling paperweight turbos to poor college kids. This turbo made quite a bit more power than the turbo you were using. Please refrain vomiting all over your keyboard until more people dyno with this turbo.

jacobcartmill

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Alien you are making divinci look worse and worse every time you post about this.

BDC

You're ignoring every single piece of evidence we've got that proves pretty much beyond any reasonable doubt that what the AF61R claims to be isn't at all, whatsoever. Your name-calling (which is reminiscent of middle school children) still shows me and others just how threatened you are by what we've shown the community. All of the things guys like you have posted are very internally-inconsistent along with your alleged power graphs. Even a slip-up that Ryan made when he mentioned his old 60-1 HIFI turbo in retrospect was right in-line with what we've been saying all along as his turbo was shown to make more power than what some of the stuff you guys posted did. Ridiculous.

Many of us aren't falling for the fallacious claims you guys have made both in writing and on this forum. We've raised the issue based on technical merits alone yet most of us are flamed both in public and in private via PM's. I hope this shows everyone how low-down and cutthroat you guys are. It's guys like you that ruin it for guys like me and others that are trying to do right and do honest work for the rest of the community.

Here's the email from Schwitzer in response to our inquiry based on the very pictures that Ryan posted on his RXTuner site:


Hi,

Yes the pictures that you have sent are of a S300 turbo that in all
likelihood is an off-the-shelf turbo. Unless they have made some internal
changes that cannot be seen in the photos. I cannot confirm exact part
number, however the turbine hsg looks like an A/R 1.00.

I have been working with (as a distributor) and competing with
Garrett/Honeywell (while working for BorgWarner) for over 23 years. I
HIGHLY doubt that Garrett would EVER, EVER collaborate with anyone using
anything but their own hardware!

You can tell the guys at Dr. Autosports, "nice try".

Thanks for your inquiry.

BorgWarner Turbo Systems
Sales and Marketing Team
turbodriven.com

How remarkable. Even the Schwitzer guy corroborates what we've been saying all along, even down to the kind of housing that's on the back of the turbo (of which we posted part #'s for!) You lose. Hopefully, nobody will fall for this junk of yours. I also hope that nobody else is intimidated by your attempts to keep us quiet. It's so clearly obvious just how threatened you are. Every time you open your mouth and spew forth your name-calling and verbal abuse, I am flattered because I know with even greater resolve that I and the others are telling the truth.

Nothin' runs like a Deere.

B

BDC

I could be wrong, but I think it's because he is Davinci Autosports... or he's a very close friend...

B

Alien

Then please explain BDC, why this turbo made so much more power than you on a small Kevin Landers SP and Steve Kan tuning?

Surely your poor results couldn't have been form the engine builder or tuner could they? I mean we are tlaking about identical turbos here. Aren't we?

Alien

I have never been employed by Davinci.

BDC

You don't have to be employed by that business to have a stake or vested interest in it. It's clear to me and the others you've threatened via private PM that you most definitely do.

B

BDC

Which one? The one that magically went from 342rwhp to 418hp with only a 2.5psi gain? That one? The 342rwhp at 12.5psi graph that's been given fits exactly in-line with what we experienced on a better compressor used on a Ser 5 half-bridgeport setup. That's just one of the inconsistencies that's been thrown out. You can make wise-cracks and infer that both my engine building and tuning are somehow sub-par, but that doesn't work on me and I have no reason to defend myself against such things.

Even if the alleged power output of this turbo were true, which it isn't, why should anyone here trust this business or this product in particular? You guys lie about its potential, where it's construced and how, as well as project this false image that it's some sort of "super turbo" that outperforms just about everything else out there that's well-known and well-proven for our setups.

Your argument is that we ought to "wait for more dyno outputs" and such. Waiting for more dyno figures equals more people purchasing this unit. People purchasing this unit equals lots and lots of money in the pocket of D&R. Lots and lots of money in the pocket of D&R means you win and get away with selling garbage by way of gross, false advertisement to the public. Good try.

B

Alien

Why do you refuse to address the power this turbo has made? Not Mike's red 3rd gen, the black 88 turbo II. 418@15psi. The car that has dyno sheets posted on this board. The car that Steve Kan backs those power levels. Steve has his own business to run. How would it benefit him to back a Davinci turbo?

Alien

Steve Kan tuned this car and verified these numbers. Why would Steve Kan lie about a turbo form a competitor? Lets not forget that car had a t2 cat under it.

How has anyone lied about the potential of this turbo? The dyno sheets prove this turbo is capable of the claimed ouotput. Who said it was a super turbo? Its justa product that Ron is offering that performs well.

More units sold? Several people already have this turbo in their hands. When they get their cars setup, there will be more proof that this unit performs.

BDC

I already did address the alleged power output of this turbo in several responses on the other thread that was deleted. I've already pointed out the glaring inconsistencies with this stuff.

Steve's got nothing to do with anything. You're trying to divert the focus of this subject off from the misleading claims made by the advertiser about this turbo.

Let's talk about that email from Schwitzer... or the fact that it's identical to the same turbo I held in my hands two years ago ... or the fact that it's decidedly not a Garrett and Davinci joint project but rather just a John Deere S300 variant that's not even as good as a 60-1 HIFI... or the fact that I can drive down to my local turbo shop and purchase this very same turbo for less than $400 (I already know -- I checked the prices on it already!) ...

This one will be left to the rest of the readers. Let them be clear-minded, objective, and critical in their judgment about this. If anyone has anymore questions about this unit, feel free to PM me about it. I'll be happy to answer them.

B

BoostedRex

Not mentioning the power levels that this turbo is or is not capable of, there is another huge problem as BDC has pointed out.

The AF61R was billed as a custom unit designed between Garret and DaVinci. That was a bald faced lie. That is the problem that most people are having here. Even if it truly does make the power that it's said to make, would you want to spend your hard earned money with a company that publicly lied about their product? Once you lose people's trust, it doesn't matter what hp numbers it is capable of. All this fighting and flaming about power levels was just a distraction tactic to try and lead people away from the original and most important problem. The rotary community was lied to about who really designed this turbo.

Zach

X9_RXSiete

Well, I'm new to all these Rotary performance companies, buut just by the fact that the mere mention of that turbo sparked such controversy, mkaes me kinda leary, hehe. Anyways, to all those who offered advice and suggestions I appreciate it very much...I'll have pics and all once I get everything in.

BoostedRex

X9, glad to see that we could help you with your choice. Best of luck to you bro.

Zach

Jay7 Nyc

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Fjo wideband, Tial bov, greddy profec type-s boost controller. BB turbos are alil more delicate then a standard turbo. Fast spooling, I cant see a BB turbo that are the same size being able to spool up about 500-1k rpms quicker then the other.. I have a greedy t88 and evrybody talks about lag lag lag its on tuning and how everything else is setup. I dont feel my turbo being laggy but its not a stock twin turbo setup either soo the choice is basically yours its not easy to decide i know...

LUPE

if you have forgetten ...let me refresh your memory. daivnci posted of the turbo info about 2 1/2 years ago! he did mention that the cover, center, and turbine housing were based from schwitzer. it's really good that you get on here and bash thier product without even testing one. no false claimes were ever posted! You are a ******* loozer and wanna-be and thats it!

LUPE

someone other than me posted under my name......

Anyhow, I thought Shop vs. Shop bashing was not allowed anymore?

-e

tonyttt

dont buy the greedy shiit . junk junk junk . tested both 35r is a very good turb spools faster and you will get more power www.ispracing.com
go to the pic to see the rx7

ErnieT

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I drove in FD's with both kits. The GT35R has no *** what so ever above 6k. Almost no more than stock twins. The T78 has been a proven turbo kit on our cars for years. Its a great all around turbo whether your running 10's at the track or running 15psi on the street making 430ish to the wheels. The boys at T&R Racing went 10.1 on a T-78! Nuff said!

sillbeer

Also didn't the rx7.com fd run 9's with a T78??

-Destin

ErnieT

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Ari runs 9's, but not on a T78.

sillbeer

Thanks.

-Destin