Removing oil cooler thermostat
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Removing oil cooler thermostat
I was thinking of removing my oil cooler thermostat and plugging the hole. Anybody do this? Is this a good idea? I don't drive the car in the winter. I am looking for ways to keep the car cooler or improve the cooling since the car just gets too hot during track days. (Just got the oil cooler flushed)
Thanks.
Ian
Thanks.
Ian
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Originally Posted by signofinfinity
there is a blanking pellet for it.... the bi letallic strip is eliminated. I have it and been using it for ages. I machined a pellet to replace the valve....
George
George
Sorry I am lost to what you mean. You can buy a blanking pellet to replace it?
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I think one of your is referring to the oil thermostat pellet in the front of the eccentric shaft and the other wants to disable the thermostat in the oil cooler.
The eccentric shaft pellet fails sometimes and is replaced for that reason. I don't think it has any effect on cooling.
In general, I don't think disabling the thermostat in the cooler will have much/any effect (once it is open, it is open, though it might flow better without the thermo in there). Having the oil too cold is no good, either.
-Max
The eccentric shaft pellet fails sometimes and is replaced for that reason. I don't think it has any effect on cooling.
In general, I don't think disabling the thermostat in the cooler will have much/any effect (once it is open, it is open, though it might flow better without the thermo in there). Having the oil too cold is no good, either.
-Max
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Originally Posted by IAN
I am looking for ways to keep the car cooler or improve the cooling since the car just gets too hot during track days. (Just got the oil cooler flushed)
Thanks.
Ian
Thanks.
Ian
Wouldn’t it be more logical and beneficial to upgrade the size of the oilcooler. Or simply clean it out and straiten the fins ?
There are some reasonable services that will reman your coolers, and I hear they are pretty good.
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Originally Posted by maxcooper
I think one of your is referring to the oil thermostat pellet in the front of the eccentric shaft and the other wants to disable the thermostat in the oil cooler.
The eccentric shaft pellet fails sometimes and is replaced for that reason. I don't think it has any effect on cooling.
In general, I don't think disabling the thermostat in the cooler will have much/any effect (once it is open, it is open, though it might flow better without the thermo in there). Having the oil too cold is no good, either.
-Max
The eccentric shaft pellet fails sometimes and is replaced for that reason. I don't think it has any effect on cooling.
In general, I don't think disabling the thermostat in the cooler will have much/any effect (once it is open, it is open, though it might flow better without the thermo in there). Having the oil too cold is no good, either.
-Max
i agree though... having the oil too cold can cause you issues.....
Thanks for the clarification max
George
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Originally Posted by rotarypower101
Wouldn’t it be more logical and beneficial to upgrade the size of the oilcooler. Or simply clean it out and straiten the fins ?
There are some reasonable services that will reman your coolers, and I hear they are pretty good.
There are some reasonable services that will reman your coolers, and I hear they are pretty good.
I had it flushed and I did straighten a few fins. It was in pretty good shape. I was just wondering what else I could do to improve cooling. And buying a new oil cooler is beyond my budget for this year. Or for the next coming years
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If it's for track days only, just remove the thermostat. There's no need for it. It will take longer to warm up. This is doubly true for aftermarket setups that use the Mocal thermostat as they've been known to fail quite regularly. Do upgrade to larger coolers. It'll help.
The other cooling option is to drill holes in the thermostat or remove the center completely. The thermostat doesn't open fast enough to catch the quick rise in coolant temps at WOT. It's cyclical and just becomes worse and worse, with the temps rising steadily and taking quite some time to cool down. Not too much of a problem on a very lightly modded car but a single turbo setup pushing 350-400rwhp+, it can quickly overheat. I find that a thermostat with five holes drilled around the perimiter works well on the street and still allows the car to get up to temp quickly and maintain temp. Without the center portion, the car would run TOO cold in anything but 85+ temps here in Florida. If it rained, forget about it!
There's a third secret cooling mod but I'm sworn to secrecy over it
The other cooling option is to drill holes in the thermostat or remove the center completely. The thermostat doesn't open fast enough to catch the quick rise in coolant temps at WOT. It's cyclical and just becomes worse and worse, with the temps rising steadily and taking quite some time to cool down. Not too much of a problem on a very lightly modded car but a single turbo setup pushing 350-400rwhp+, it can quickly overheat. I find that a thermostat with five holes drilled around the perimiter works well on the street and still allows the car to get up to temp quickly and maintain temp. Without the center portion, the car would run TOO cold in anything but 85+ temps here in Florida. If it rained, forget about it!
There's a third secret cooling mod but I'm sworn to secrecy over it
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I did it to one of my coolers on my 20B setup, i just got a 10MM bolt in there with JB weld on the face of the bolt and the nut and just made sure it was tightened down. I just went in with a socket in each side and got it tight.
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Here in AZ, think it would matter to take not use one? I've got a couple monster oil coolers I'm running, but it is few and far between that we have many cold mornings...
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Haven't we ALL heard this
It is not a thermostat! It is a bypass pellet.
At 140F it opens. At 140F it closes. Obviously, the oil does not stay near 140F.
I don't see what the big deal in pluging it is. As long as when you remove it you plug it or else not much oil will find its way thru the cooler.
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...ght=oil+cooler
James
At 140F it opens. At 140F it closes. Obviously, the oil does not stay near 140F.
I don't see what the big deal in pluging it is. As long as when you remove it you plug it or else not much oil will find its way thru the cooler.
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...ght=oil+cooler
James
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Originally Posted by Wankel7
It is not a thermostat! It is a bypass pellet.
At 140F it opens. At 140F it closes. Obviously, the oil does not stay near 140F.
I don't see what the big deal in pluging it is. As long as when you remove it you plug it or else not much oil will find its way thru the cooler.
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...ght=oil+cooler
James
At 140F it opens. At 140F it closes. Obviously, the oil does not stay near 140F.
I don't see what the big deal in pluging it is. As long as when you remove it you plug it or else not much oil will find its way thru the cooler.
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...ght=oil+cooler
James
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Ian
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Originally Posted by IAN
Hey higgi. Were did you find the room to mount two oil coolers?
mine hacked install
http://rx7cz.net/photos/workshop94/
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