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Old 07-14-04, 09:36 PM
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Originally posted by FD3SR1
..........REACTIVE RACING...........
...........10.73 @ 128mph
(20psi Bone Stock Re-man)......
1.50 60' on ET. Streets
SR Motorsports Stage 2 KKK single turbo

R85? never heard of it who makes it? So you wouldnt recomend the sr kits not even after a 10.73? thats fast!

Does anyone know a good website/place to get fd turbo kits/turbos?
R85 turbo kit www.kgparts.com
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thanks for the site! prices arnt bad
any other sites? just looking at all my options
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Oh wait guys. Anyone wanting to know about KKK turbos, click the link .

http://www.turbos.bwauto.com/en/products/commercial.asp
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KKK, borg warner, Schwitzer, Holset are all part of parent company Borg Warner, so to say one is worse than the other is kinda silly, you essentially have the same parts in all of them. They all get their turbine housings out of a foundry in Sweden from Schwitzer for example. Garrett is separate from these. So your R85 is really no different than your KKK or funnier still your holset(sr) is no different than your KKK(sr).
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When does that R85 see full boost and would it be safe to run on a stock street ported motor with 2mm 2pc apex seals?
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Originally Posted by z8cw
I got screwed by "allrotor93" on this forum. He sold me his holset, alias sr kkk stage 2, kit. Supposedly the turbo was just rebuild....it has huge play, seals are gone, vband flange totally banged up, manifold was cracked... I took it to get rebuild and the guy basically told me not to bother!!! Don#t know if he just beat the crap out of it or if these turbos don`t hold up. In any case he sold it to me under the pretense that he is going 20B. Now he just bought a R85 with my money.
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Originally Posted by Poweraxel


the turbo was rebuilt less than 500 miles b4 i sold it. it never saw over 15psi and was inspected. the vband was how sr sold the kit. i wouldnt have sold it to him if i knew it was in bad shape. i have the recipt from sr for the rebuild, $890.
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Originally Posted by REXtecy
When does that R85 see full boost and would it be safe to run on a stock street ported motor with 2mm 2pc apex seals?
4000rpm and lol.....yes there is nothing wrong or unsafe with putting a single turbo on a stock port, stock apex seal motor. I went 10's with that setup.
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Actually Borg Warner owns both Holset and and KKK along with schwitzer, turboloder, airwerks, and I'm probably even forgetting one or two others. The KKK turbos are designated as their performance turbos. I use a holset unit that I believe is the HE1 but am not possitive, possibly its the HC1...whichever its big and bad ***.
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Garrett Powers my jet, with a TFE 731. So I am going with the Garrett turbo on my 7. Sean, It wont be long now, things are looking up.
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Widebody we posted that above your just a tad too late, I will not make a kit for your jet I already told you that.
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haha yeah I see that now. I must have missed a page in my reading. They also own IHI...just thought I'd throw that in there
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Just because one company owns them doesn't mean they are all built the same. I can tell you from experience that the SR Motorsports turbos that Ray claims are KKK, are in fact Holeset, which suck for reliability.
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Ernie I think you missed the point I was making they all get their parts from the same source. So maybe workers at holeset suck but the parts are the same.
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Originally Posted by Zero R
Ernie I think you missed the point I was making they all get their parts from the same source. So maybe workers at holeset suck but the parts are the same.
Sure most turbos share some parts, but not the majority or else you wouldn't see so many different companies putting different products out, all with different results.
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so the sr turbos are basicaly a hybreed somthing like a t3 t4 but not the same size right?
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I agree with Ernie, I had a stage 1 and had to have rebuilds like clockwork. I sent it
to turbochargers.com and they said I got f*%ked hard. Said it was a holset that is
nowhere near as expensive or as good as a kkk. Sent it to majestic once, same opinion.
I had them make me a 62-1 and It was flawless over a year. I took it off to go to a larger
turbo. It sits on a shelf in my study- shaft as tight as the day I got it. I think garretts are
the ****- dependable and cheap[er].
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I agree with Ernie, I had a stage 1 and had to have rebuilds like clockwork. I sent it
to turbochargers.com and they said I got f*%ked hard. Said it was a holset that is
nowhere near as expensive or as good as a kkk. Sent it to majestic once, same opinion.
I had them make me a 62-1 and It was flawless over a year. I took it off to go to a larger
turbo. It sits on a shelf in my study- shaft as tight as the day I got it. I think garretts are
the ****- dependable and cheap[er].
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Originally Posted by ErnieT
Just because one company owns them doesn't mean they are all built the same. I can tell you from experience that the SR Motorsports turbos that Ray claims are KKK, are in fact Holeset, which suck for reliability.
I can vouch for that!
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Originally Posted by ErnieT
Just because one company owns them doesn't mean they are all built the same. I can tell you from experience that the SR Motorsports turbos that Ray claims are KKK, are in fact Holeset, which suck for reliability.
Holset are owned by Cummins, along with many other turbo manufacturers.

If you have had a problem with a Holset turbo, then it's very judgmental to blame all other turbos of that brand for being of poor quality. Going by that I would never get another Garret turbo ever - but the truth is you can't compare the modern GT series with older TO4s. The technology is not the same.

If anything, Holset are known for their reliability. At least here in Sweden they're praised and are known to last the lifetime of the diesel engines they come on - there are no gasoline engine Holset turbos. That doesn't stop Volvo and BMW enthusiasts from using them. The HX40 and HX50 models are very popular among the 400-650 hp crowd.

I would put KKK, Schwitzer & B/W, Holset and Garrett at the same quality level if I compare contemporary turbos and turbos with similar design goals. If you have problems with bearings failing or seals breaking - there is probably a good reason, you're using it out of spec or simply abusing it. We can talk about anything from boost level, ill-adjusted blow-offs and oil pressure being a factor here.

BTW, the H1C that was mentioned earlier is quite old, it was replaced by the HX35 in the early 90s, almost 15 year ago. They're commonly used in the Dodge trucks with Cummins 6L. It was replaced by the HX35 and now the HY35.
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ARE KKK GOOD one of the BEST

ok Reason number one it is the turbo used on 90% of porsche including Carrera 3 and 4 the GT's RUF,Rennsport,ECT...oh yeah almost forgot THE CARRERA GT supercar reason two BMW and Mecedes also use this brand Vw also Puegot <<<spelled right or is that left???" they are the Bose of German turbos so anyone who tells you there alright or they'll do WELL anyways its a premium turbo
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