Internal engine mods needed for 450whp and up?
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Gimmicky? Hmmm...
It does exactly what we say it does. "Its main purpose is to reduce oil pan leaks caused by engine flex"
Nowhere does it state that it will reduce plate failures. However we do run a double brace setup on our 13b-re to act as an engine girdle....
It does exactly what we say it does. "Its main purpose is to reduce oil pan leaks caused by engine flex"
Nowhere does it state that it will reduce plate failures. However we do run a double brace setup on our 13b-re to act as an engine girdle....
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Nowhere does it state that it will reduce plate failures. However we do run a double brace setup on our 13b-re to act as an engine girdle....
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Excuse me, can you not read your own post?
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Excuse me, can you not read your own post?
No you said that is didn't, and this this is where you are wrong again. Anything bolted to the bottom of the engine will add rigidity to it. The amount of "strength" is limited to the hardware however. Girdles have been used on high powered piston engines for decades to prevent block failure. Our oil pan brace was developed to brace guess what?....you got it the oil pan, we did not develop it to brace the engine.
No you said that is didn't, and this this is where you are wrong again. Anything bolted to the bottom of the engine will add rigidity to it. The amount of "strength" is limited to the hardware however. Girdles have been used on high powered piston engines for decades to prevent block failure. Our oil pan brace was developed to brace guess what?....you got it the oil pan, we did not develop it to brace the engine.
Originally Posted by Arghx
Would the installation of an oil pan brace (Banzai Racing FD brace pictured above) reduce engine flex to the point where you would be less likely to crack a plate? I know that they are primarily advertised as a way to stop oil pan leaks though.
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have you seen how much material gets removed when engine is studded?
And again people being negative about a method or product because they think it might not work. People should look at the results, the real data. Not what they think and dont think will work.
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You don't need to do a thing to your motor until you reach around 630rwhp BTW, when I had my engine studded, it leaked. Now I just have it with extra dowels and its fine.
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And and oil pan brace isn't going to do squat. I've seen all the fast PR cars and none of those have an oil pan brace, lol...It surely isnt going to prevent cracking an iron.
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I'm all for dowel pinning anything that's going to make 600rwhp or more. I started doing it to see if it would help keep the rotors from contacting the rotor housings in the higher hp applications. IMO it does help keep the rotor housing from deflecting.
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Also agree. Nothing needs to be done to your engine until after 600 and up. I'll go with Ernies number 630...as we're right at 620 (ha, so we're safe for now:-D) with the only internal mod being aviation seals.
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I agree 100% with the statement that no matter how much you re-inforce something, if that motor knocks at any high level of power, something WILL give. I think the money that could be spent on re-inforced oil pans or other "fixes" should be spent on something more worthwhile like a proper tune or AI, things that HAVE been proven to prevent problems from happening in the first place.
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i use dowels and a 1/4 inch thick aluminum oil pan baffle. we'll see how this new setup holds. i broke 2 rear irons on low boost (18psi) so going the extra mile with a few inventions and see what happens.
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ans Sean, or anyone else for that matter, what guru stud leakage stories have you heard or experienced?
i know mazdatrix is selling tons of the guru made studs but i haven't heard any horror stories on this forum or elsewhere. i'm about to build an engine with guru 10mm studs and would really like to hear you guys experiences
i know mazdatrix is selling tons of the guru made studs but i haven't heard any horror stories on this forum or elsewhere. i'm about to build an engine with guru 10mm studs and would really like to hear you guys experiences
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You've already asked me this. You don't make any sense. 155-160mph? Yea in a 1800lb car, not a 2900lb car. You can't just go by hp. So I suppose since I make 781rwhp my car should hit 200mph??
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Just as an example.
A car that just made a shad under 800rwhp run 179mph.
Thats what it made on a dyno dynamics dyno. I have no relation to the car.
Im not saying theirs anything wrong with your hp figures, but obviously the figures in aus are different. Same hp giving different results. Why does everybody take insult?
A 12a down here in aus weighed over 2500lb and with 630ish hp ran 155-159mph(has since run faster with more HP).
Is their anything wrong with my question? what mph did your car run with your hp?
A car that just made a shad under 800rwhp run 179mph.
Thats what it made on a dyno dynamics dyno. I have no relation to the car.
Im not saying theirs anything wrong with your hp figures, but obviously the figures in aus are different. Same hp giving different results. Why does everybody take insult?
A 12a down here in aus weighed over 2500lb and with 630ish hp ran 155-159mph(has since run faster with more HP).
Is their anything wrong with my question? what mph did your car run with your hp?