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Old 06-20-09, 12:06 PM
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Red face Dyno results (425 hp @ 28 psi) Pictures of carnage.

Few weeks ago, we attempted to tune my car on the dyno. The car wouldn't make power for nothing so I kept turning the boost up until it wouldn't run and boost anymore.

I just thought that we had spun a bearing because it wouldn't boost anymore and because there was a very loud knock in the motor.

So, I finally got around to draining the fluids and pulling the motor today. I was suprised to not find any copper in the drain pan. But, I had so much crap sitting in there from before that I might just have missed it.

I also did a compression test today, only getting one pulse on the rear rotor.

Anyhow, I started pulling it apart.......... then found something odd.





Son of a.... I forgot to tighten the compressor housing down





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It looks like all I need is a new compressor housing and a new compressor wheel. The shaft is still tight.

What do you think, fix the current one or upgrade to a 80mm wheel and have the current compressor housing machined?
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That sucks.
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Originally Posted by Viking War Hammer
It looks like all I need is a new compressor housing and a new compressor wheel. The shaft is still tight.

What do you think, fix the current one or upgrade to a 80mm wheel and have the current compressor housing machined?
Remember , by replacing the front wheel it would have to be balance. why dont you go with th new 83mm that Bullseye offers for the BorgWarners.
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Remember , by replacing the front wheel it would have to be balance. why dont you go with th new 83mm that Bullseye offers for the BorgWarners.
Honestly, I don't need a 80mm, and sure as heck don't need a 83mm.

Actually, some would say I don't need my current 75mm.

Our local turbo shop would balance it if I decide to go the 80mm route. Still debating on doing the 80mm or spending a few bucks on fixing mine.
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Ouch! That sucks dude! So you never heard the comp wheel grinding away on the housing?

Originally Posted by Viking War Hammer
Honestly, I don't need a 80mm, and sure as heck don't need a 83mm.
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Ouch! That sucks dude! So you never heard the comp wheel grinding away on the housing?

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Not at all...... heck, it probably wasn't moving.
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If anyone has a S400 comp housing laying around, let me know. I need one.
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Originally Posted by Viking War Hammer
If anyone has a S400 comp housing laying around, let me know. I need one.
once i upgrade to my race housing i'll have an extra s475 housing.. but that may be a few months
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The devil is in the details. It's always something fricken' small.

Oh well. Time to upgrade!

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So that was what i was hearing through the bathroom wall.
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The devil is in the details. It's always something fricken' small.

Oh well. Time to upgrade!

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Yeah,

Got a quote to be upgraded to a 80mm for $350, just not sure if that's the best route for me.
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jeez! that sucks! it could happen to the best (and worst) of us.

the way i see it is you'd either have to machine or replace the housing anyway. you said they'd be balancing everything, so why not just go with the 80 mm wheel? i know more is not always better, but in this case i think it could be the better option.
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Yeah, I'm thinking for $350 you can't beat it. Unless someone tells me how stupid this is, I'm probably just going to upgrade.
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i say upgrade even if someone else tells you it's stupid. i'm cooler and sexier than them anyway.
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Originally Posted by Viking War Hammer
Yeah,

Got a quote to be upgraded to a 80mm for $350, just not sure if that's the best route for me.
Where is this quote from? I may need this info for the future (I'm running a S475 on a 20b). Thanks!
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Originally Posted by chohakai
Where is this quote from? I may need this info for the future (I'm running a S475 on a 20b). Thanks!
I receive the quote from http://www.turbodaves.com/

But, I'm currently talking with paradise racing into a 80mm upgrade with the bullseye race cover. We'll see..
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Originally Posted by Viking War Hammer
I receive the quote from http://www.turbodaves.com/

But, I'm currently talking with paradise racing into a 80mm upgrade with the bullseye race cover. We'll see..
Luis is a real nice guy do deal with , thats who I got my Bullseye S480 from he hooked me up and one thing about him he will not beat around the bush just to make a sale!

ask him about the new bearing upgrade feature he has available.
http://www.paradiseracing.com/Store/...%20bearing.jpg
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Yeah, Luis has treated me well in the past.
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You going semi-pp to make use of the new turbo?
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I'm still thinking about it. My only concern is the high idle....and if I actually need it. I mean, guys are putting down 700+ hp on stock ports. I have no business driving around with 700hp in this light of a car.



Man, it's been too hot to do anything in the garage.
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Originally Posted by Viking War Hammer

Man, it's been too hot to do anything in the garage.
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Originally Posted by Viking War Hammer
I'm still thinking about it. My only concern is the high idle....and if I actually need it.

Watch from 2:10 on. Thats idling about 1200. I think with a heavy flywheel you could get a stable idle at 1000.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OqpVQN_eJo&feature=user
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+1 on the heavy flywheel. I'm a fan of using the stock flywheel when having any kind of high overlap motor.

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