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Old 04-21-07, 08:17 PM
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Critique my GT35R Dyno sheet

Since the gt35 seems to be the topic of the night I thought I would post my recent dyno sheet so you guys get an idea of what it can do.

This is a T3 1.06 35R. pump gas at around 15-16 psi. on a dyno dyamanics dyno.
Timing was very low and A\R was very conservative at 10.4.



In a few weeks ill be back on the dyno with C16 and 25psi.. maybe a little more timing and a bit leaner too. well see.
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nice! 430 streetable hp sounds excellent!
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Originally Posted by turboR1
Since the gt35 seems to be the topic of the night I thought I would post my recent dyno sheet so you guys get an idea of what it can do.

This is a T3 1.06 35R. pump gas at around 15-16 psi. on a dyno dyamanics dyno.
Timing was very low and A\R was very conservative at 10.4.



In a few weeks ill be back on the dyno with C16 and 25psi.. maybe a little more timing and a bit leaner too. well see.
Looks good, torque curve is nice and fairly flat once boost comes on showing little if any boost creep from 14 up to 16 (4500-5500) early on, but rock solid stable after and hp shows still has more in it. Seems laggy for some reason,maybe the bigger turbine side has to do with it?? Would be nice to see the a/f ratio and lean it out and a pull to 8000-8500K I bet you will get even more. Looks like a good setup. Race gas will be really good add some timing and lean it out, should do really nicely

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The rev limiter was set at 7.5k.. My aeromotive eliminator pump seems to be a dud or just not up to the task. fuel pressure started to drop on the top end and duty cycle was high. So if anyone is interested in aeromotive eliminator pump w 500miles its for sale.
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Originally Posted by turboR1
The rev limiter was set at 7.5k.. My aeromotive eliminator pump seems to be a dud or just not up to the task. fuel pressure started to drop on the top end and duty cycle was high. So if anyone is interested in aeromotive eliminator pump w 500miles its for sale.
Maybe go with dual nippon pumps in tank? what size injectors are you running?
That car has to be really fun to drive though, once you get the fuel issue fixed, up the rev limiter to 8500K
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Im going to go with two bosch pumps, i got 4 1000cc injectors and -10 -8 lines now. Yea its pretty fun. I got bfg drag radials, they are a little worn but the car had no trouble breaking those loose. First gear is pretty useless.
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Originally Posted by turboR1
Im going to go with two bosch pumps, i got 4 1000cc injectors and -10 -8 lines now. Yea its pretty fun. I got bfg drag radials, they are a little worn but the car had no trouble breaking those loose. First gear is pretty useless.
Cool, you running the xcessive lower intake manifold with the 4x1000cc top feed injectors, or are you just running 2x1000cc primary and 2x1000 secondary injectors? I have 1000cc primary and 1600c secondary and run the Xcessive LIM. Peak Inj. duty cycle at 27 lbs is 66 percent with the dual nippon pumps at around 68 lbs pressure wot. I am running on Kumho MX's 275's they do alright at low boost, but worthless till third in high boost. I might try those Mickey thompson ET Drag radials for the street as I wont be launching, just roll ons if I do get on it, or give those BFG Drag radials a shot.
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its stock LIM. pressure was at 65psi and duty cycle was high like 88%. but pressure starts to drop. Yea, I need two pumps, one cant handle it. Not to happy with aeromotive... wont be buying anymore of their stuff.
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your seeing 15psi at 4400rpm..... wtf happened..... it should be around 3000rpm


was this tuned? by who?
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is the motor stock or ported?
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Originally Posted by turBRO240
your seeing 15psi at 4400rpm..... wtf happened..... it should be around 3000rpm
The motor is a SP.
power comes in a bit later but notice it doesn't die off...

Most people doesn't race around at 3000 rpm.
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Originally Posted by enzo250
The motor is a SP.
power comes in a bit later but notice it doesn't die off...

Most people doesn't race around at 3000 rpm.
The the sooner you make power, the sooner more torque is produced and gets you down the track quicker while maintaining the hp
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great numbers man! t3 hotside too WOOT WOOT FOR NO LAG!!!!!
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Originally Posted by BLitzed33
The the sooner you make power, the sooner more torque is produced and gets you down the track quicker while maintaining the hp

The only time you should see 3000rpm at the track is in the pits... lol..
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Originally Posted by marcus219
great numbers man! t3 hotside too WOOT WOOT FOR NO LAG!!!!!
Nice sarcasm about the lag
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Nice numbers.

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Originally Posted by turboR1
The rev limiter was set at 7.5k.. My aeromotive eliminator pump seems to be a dud or just not up to the task. fuel pressure started to drop on the top end and duty cycle was high. So if anyone is interested in aeromotive eliminator pump w 500miles its for sale.
I've made over 700 rwhp with an eliminator pump. No pressure drop on the street even in 4th gear at 160 mph.

Nice power and tuneup. Seems like the person doing the tune have some experience.

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Originally Posted by BLitzed33
The the sooner you make power, the sooner more torque is produced and gets you down the track quicker while maintaining the hp
Not entirly true unless we're racing dyno sheets

You can only use so much torque. The rest is to spin the wheels and break parts.
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Originally Posted by BLitzed33
Nice sarcasm about the lag
Car is not laggy...
The dyno pull was done with 3rd gear and a fairly high ramp rate.

I can slow the pull down and the car would be at full boost sooner.

On the highway in 4th gear you'll have 15psi at around 3500.


Regardless of that at the track you'll still never be at 3000rpm

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Originally Posted by crispeed
I've made over 700 rwhp with an eliminator pump. No pressure drop on the street even in 4th gear at 160 mph.
Crispeed. this car is cursed...lol

I made big power on piston motors with these pumps and never had a problem.

Our first one came apart. The epoxy holding the magnets to the housing let go and our filters were full of pieces of it. I don't like the way they built these. They should have a machined groove so the magnets can't move not held in with epoxy.
Funny thing was pump would still work and car run. Pump just made funny noises and was hard to start...

Now our second one is dropping pressure. I do have it a bit high but still it shouldn't be doing this at such low hp...

At this point i feel like throwing it up against a wall and watching it smash to pieces... hehe..
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Originally Posted by enzo250
Crispeed. this car is cursed...lol

I made big power on piston motors with these pumps and never had a problem.

Our first one came apart. The epoxy holding the magnets to the housing let go and our filters were full of pieces of it. I don't like the way they built these. They should have a machined groove so the magnets can't move not held in with epoxy.
Funny thing was pump would still work and car run. Pump just made funny noises and was hard to start...

Now our second one is dropping pressure. I do have it a bit high but still it shouldn't be doing this at such low hp...

At this point i feel like throwing it up against a wall and watching it smash to pieces... hehe..
That's the one thing I hate about those pumps. I've been very lucky though. Never had one loose the magnets although I've seen many friends have the same problem with the magnets. I honestly thought they had solved that problem a long time ago becasue when they first came out that was like the biggest complain. I've seen people take them apart and re-epoxy with better stuff. Even held up with methanol fuel.
That pump require a lot of fuel in the supply line. You might have to lower it. What works for me with those pumps now is to use a surge tank. No problems since then.
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Originally Posted by crispeed
Not entirly true unless we're racing dyno sheets

You can only use so much torque. The rest is to spin the wheels and break parts.
I was speaking in general terms, not specific But I think you can never have enough torque, haha, just setup limited...wider slicks and upgraded drivetrain parts, but I get what you are saying in general

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Remember the car is pig rich with low timing and a fairly large street port which would slow down the spool a little. BUT when driving the car, there is no waiting around for the boost to hit. The car is super responsive and feels like a 2 stroke. Also it sees 7psi pretty early its not like there is no boost that you can say its laggy.
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Originally Posted by enzo250
Car is not laggy...
The dyno pull was done with 3rd gear and a fairly high ramp rate.

I can slow the pull down and the car would be at full boost sooner.

On the highway in 4th gear you'll have 15psi at around 3500.


Regardless of that at the track you'll still never be at 3000rpm
I was being sarcastic about that comment, like "nice way of being a jerk" comment
I think you misunderstood I wasnt downing you...the poster of that original comment
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Originally Posted by enzo250
Car is not laggy...
The dyno pull was done with 3rd gear and a fairly high ramp rate.

I can slow the pull down and the car would be at full boost sooner.

On the highway in 4th gear you'll have 15psi at around 3500.


Regardless of that at the track you'll still never be at 3000rpm
I wasn't being sarcastic. I have the same turbo basically and I see boost as described above. Different on street than dyno unless you can load simulate. You have any pics bro?


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