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WARNING: There is a man in S Florida selling FAKE SUPER SEALS

Old Oct 25, 2012 | 09:32 AM
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MN WARNING: There is a man in S Florida selling FAKE SUPER SEALS

Hey guys I am posting this up on behalf of Rotary Aviation. They are a good friend of mine. This guy is going around selling apex seals saying they are the black seals. They are in the process of trying to catch the duplicate thieve. If you guys see this guys stuff being sold don't buy them and please send a link to Rotary Aviation's page of them. They are cheap apex seals.

This is what the guys at rotary aviation wrote on facebook.
WARNING: There is a man in S Florida selling FAKE SUPER SEALS. He sold some at Moroso Raceway a few weeks ago. They are black but with white lettering, They are NOT OUR PRODUCT! Please beware of what you are purchasing. The fake seals are of inferior quality. We have confirmed this first hand.

link to Rotary Aviation FB page :

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.p..._comment_reply

I'm sorry if this is not the right spot to post this, but I figured that this would be a good place to put it cause people are buying performance parts and the last thing I want is this guy coming in here and selling these fake products to our rotary enthusiast family in here.


links of the sellers stuff :

mazda Rx7 Rx8 12a 13b apex seals and gasket set here is more mazda Rx7 12a 13b rebuild kit
mazda Rx7 13b racer-rebuild kit
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Old Oct 25, 2012 | 11:16 AM
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I just dont see where he is labeling them as RA's parts.

The last thing RA wants is to lose profit. What testing have they done to prove the "inferior quality?" They're just getting undersold...
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Old Oct 25, 2012 | 03:02 PM
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Thanks for the heads up.... and here are 2 facts to help you...

1) He is in Central Florida NOT in the South.

2) Just be aware that no where in his add does he claim them to be "Super Seals" he only list them as "Black seals"... It may be hard for R.A to try and make a claim against him for these generic parts...
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Old Oct 25, 2012 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by NoPis10

2) Just be aware that no where in his add does he claim them to be "Super Seals" he only list them as "Black seals"... It may be hard for R.A to try and make a claim against him for these generic parts...
That was half of what I was trying to get at. RA claims that they know of some inferior quality... wheres the proof? Companies bash the little guy all the time.

All I know is - a lot of Spanish speaking people build much faster RX7s than mine
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Old Oct 25, 2012 | 08:14 PM
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Does anyone have any close-up pictures of the seals? Do they look like the super seals?
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Old Oct 26, 2012 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by MIDNFauciUSN
That was half of what I was trying to get at. RA claims that they know of some inferior quality... wheres the proof? Companies bash the little guy all the time.

All I know is - a lot of Spanish speaking people build much faster RX7s than mine
I agree..

Also the seller says they are black seals...thats all...

And who are you to tell us NOT buy from this guy?
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Old Oct 28, 2012 | 09:43 AM
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I was told by them that it's black seals with white lettering saying super seals and that's not how theirs look like.
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Old Oct 28, 2012 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by MIDNFauciUSN
I just dont see where he is labeling them as RA's parts.

The last thing RA wants is to lose profit. What testing have they done to prove the "inferior quality?" They're just getting undersold...
Originally Posted by MIDNFauciUSN
That was half of what I was trying to get at. RA claims that they know of some inferior quality... wheres the proof? Companies bash the little guy all the time.

All I know is - a lot of Spanish speaking people build much faster RX7s than mine
Sorry, but you're pretty opinionated with no real argument to back up your views.

If there is someone out there making and selling apex seals that look like RA seals but are not, that's a problem.

This person is making money on RA's reputation. I've used their apex seals in countless high-powered builds, and have been VERY impressed with their quality control and tolerances.

Some amateur builders/assemblers may use these seals without closely inspecting their length, width, and straightness. Would suck to fire off a fresh build and have it be bad right out of the box.

Not to mention that this can hurt RA's existing reputation, and if people read of issues down the road, there is always the question of 'did I get the real deal or not?'

So maybe this guy is doing something wrong after all......
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Old Oct 28, 2012 | 07:59 PM
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My only opinion is that people are quick to call this guy out for selling fake RA seals, when RA itself hasn't even provided evidence of their "inferior quality." Who cares if this guy calls them "super seals" or "mega seals" or "super mega happy - me love you long time" seals. If a buyer isn't purchasing from a reputable dealer because they cant afford being charged out the *** for 6 pieces of machined metal, the risk is on the buyer.

If they really couldn't afford them, RA isn't losing out on their business anyway. The only people that are associating these seals with RA are the people that haven't even bought them.

I even posted the question on their Facebook - and guess what... no reply.

Would *I* buy them... no - but until someone proves otherwise - my "opinion" stands.
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Old Nov 2, 2012 | 08:23 PM
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i know the guy personally from the craigslist link's posted on the 1st post and he's not selling knock off seals or claiming that they're RA or SUPER SEALS i dont know where your getting your 'information' but YOUR WRONG!!!! before you make FALSE ACUSATIONS RESEARCH WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT he sells GOOPY SEALS his number is on the link call him and ASK HIM WHAT HE SELL'S how difficult would that be?! so stop talking **** RA shut your hole know your role! RESEARCH RESEARCH RESEARCH RESEARCH stop the he said she said bullshit a simple phone call or email to the seller would've been easier
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Old Dec 1, 2012 | 12:36 PM
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Thanks for the post never thought people did stuff like that
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Old Dec 2, 2013 | 06:31 PM
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So is this guy dead yet or what?

No sense in maintaining fear mongering sticky's if there's nothing to fear.

DELETE THIS STICKY!
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Old Aug 27, 2015 | 03:02 PM
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sure is a lot of he assumptions for a sticky thread... wonder why it's even here.

WARNING!!! THERE IS A MAN IN CENTRAL FLORIDA SELLING CANTELOPES!!!!!



someone call the cops please!
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Old Aug 27, 2015 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Lyger
sure is a lot of he assumptions for a sticky thread... wonder why it's even here.

WARNING!!! THERE IS A MAN IN CENTRAL FLORIDA SELLING CANTELOPES!!!!!



someone call the cops please!
the thread right above yours says to delete this sticky......... which was posted almost 2 years ago
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Old Aug 27, 2015 | 04:38 PM
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Are you guys talking about the guy from craiglist? Are you guys talking about Carlos
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