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03-31-09, 01:18 PM
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So aside from the flooding sunroof, my car's doing something else funny now. It cuts out (like every electrical component shuts off) for a half a second, then goes on fine like nothing happend. That happened three times today in around a 30 mile drive. And today at school it left me stranded for a good half hour. It's like the battery just isn't even there- turning the key does nothing, but the battery is fine. When I tried kick starting it, it wouldn't fire, like the injectors weren't even working. But the harsh kicking made something connect, because all the gauges snapped on and it started with the key. I'm guessing it could be the ignition since it's 2 decades old, but I know nothing about that. And it's sort of hard searching for an answer on here, because the only search term I can think of is 'no power'... Anyone?
03-31-09, 01:58 PM
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So aside from the flooding sunroof, my car's doing something else funny now. It cuts out (like every electrical component shuts off) for a half a second, then goes on fine like nothing happend. That happened three times today in around a 30 mile drive. And today at school it left me stranded for a good half hour. It's like the battery just isn't even there- turning the key does nothing, but the battery is fine. When I tried kick starting it, it wouldn't fire, like the injectors weren't even working. But the harsh kicking made something connect, because all the gauges snapped on and it started with the key. I'm guessing it could be the ignition since it's 2 decades old, but I know nothing about that. And it's sort of hard searching for an answer on here, because the only search term I can think of is 'no power'... Anyone?
Neg side of battery *terminal to chassis/frame
Neg side of battery *terminal to top of block (where wiring harness bolts down)
Ground motor to chassis/frame (different location than one above. I used a small wire on lower motor to engine mount)
Ground starter body to frame
Ground ECU to chassis/frame inside car
03-31-09, 03:03 PM
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Yep Brett, sounds like you gotta do some trouble shooting. Or maybe now is the time to move on up to an FB?
Hey Josh, welcome to OGTA. We welcome virtual members too, you might want to post a photo of your car and yourself in the mean time if you can't make it down for an upcoming meeting (next one is next Tuesday, April 7). Here's the usual format:
Mike on your 85 cruise the other day the Gray Ghost probably was being influenced by the rotary vortex that eminates from Jefferson, I've measured its effects clear out to Braselton. I think it causes the rotor lube to circulate at a higher rate, kind of like a hormone effect for wankels.
Hey Josh, welcome to OGTA. We welcome virtual members too, you might want to post a photo of your car and yourself in the mean time if you can't make it down for an upcoming meeting (next one is next Tuesday, April 7). Here's the usual format:
Mike on your 85 cruise the other day the Gray Ghost probably was being influenced by the rotary vortex that eminates from Jefferson, I've measured its effects clear out to Braselton. I think it causes the rotor lube to circulate at a higher rate, kind of like a hormone effect for wankels.
03-31-09, 03:37 PM
#4730
Good News
My wife was discharged from the hospital today and she is done with chemo. 
Now we just have to get her healthy again.
Ray, I think you are on to something about that rotary vortex. It might even reach as far a Mill Creek.
The Gray Ghost has started for the past 2 days. Monday was a little rough, today was better. But, he starts out a little lumpy. I hoping he will continue to heal. Maybe the OGTA meet will do the trick.
Crit, can I borrow you compression tester sometime?
Now we just have to get her healthy again.Mike on your 85 cruise the other day the Gray Ghost probably was being influenced by the rotary vortex that eminates from Jefferson, I've measured its effects clear out to Braselton. I think it causes the rotor lube to circulate at a higher rate, kind of like a hormone effect for wankels.
The Gray Ghost has started for the past 2 days. Monday was a little rough, today was better. But, he starts out a little lumpy. I hoping he will continue to heal. Maybe the OGTA meet will do the trick.
Crit, can I borrow you compression tester sometime?
03-31-09, 09:24 PM
#4733
2nd gens are known for wiring issues. I would suggest doing all your additional grounds if you had not done so already.
Neg side of battery *terminal to chassis/frame
Neg side of battery *terminal to top of block (where wiring harness bolts down)
Ground motor to chassis/frame (different location than one above. I used a small wire on lower motor to engine mount)
Ground starter body to frame
Ground ECU to chassis/frame inside car
Neg side of battery *terminal to chassis/frame
Neg side of battery *terminal to top of block (where wiring harness bolts down)
Ground motor to chassis/frame (different location than one above. I used a small wire on lower motor to engine mount)
Ground starter body to frame
Ground ECU to chassis/frame inside car
Originally Posted by Kevin
My TII used to do the same thing... check the wires on your main fuse block under the hood, I had a loose wire or a short or something, I would just jiggle the wires going into it and **** would come on again. It did that **** all the time!
Originally Posted by Ray
Yep Brett, sounds like you gotta do some trouble shooting. Or maybe now is the time to move on up to an FB?
Anyways... I've got Tuesday off of work, so I'll be out there.
03-31-09, 10:55 PM
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Ok guys, I have an idea.
This guy is willing to sell me his 13B from his GSL-Se with trans and all engine accessories for $250. The car runs, he just wants to do a V8 swap. I want to know if it's a good idea that I buy it and save for a rebuild kit, then build it as a midly ported 4-port using 12A side housings in a year or so. Also, if it's a good idea, can someone with a truck come down to Cecil Ga (near florida/georgia line just before Valdosta) and pick it up with me, and does anybody have room to keep the block whielI save for the rebuild kit? Crit's garage... one of Billy's trailors... somewhere? I live in a condo and 250 for a running SE block with full accessories (UIM LIM injectors alternator ignition, everything) seems like a good deal I don't want to miss but I have no where to put it. When I get the kit, new rotor housings, and 12A side housings, I'd then come out and pick it up to move it in my Cousin's basement and rebuild it.
This guy is willing to sell me his 13B from his GSL-Se with trans and all engine accessories for $250. The car runs, he just wants to do a V8 swap. I want to know if it's a good idea that I buy it and save for a rebuild kit, then build it as a midly ported 4-port using 12A side housings in a year or so. Also, if it's a good idea, can someone with a truck come down to Cecil Ga (near florida/georgia line just before Valdosta) and pick it up with me, and does anybody have room to keep the block whielI save for the rebuild kit? Crit's garage... one of Billy's trailors... somewhere? I live in a condo and 250 for a running SE block with full accessories (UIM LIM injectors alternator ignition, everything) seems like a good deal I don't want to miss but I have no where to put it. When I get the kit, new rotor housings, and 12A side housings, I'd then come out and pick it up to move it in my Cousin's basement and rebuild it.
Here ya go, ray
04-01-09, 06:44 AM
#4736
Ok guys, I have an idea.
This guy is willing to sell me his 13B from his GSL-Se with trans and all engine accessories for $250. The car runs, he just wants to do a V8 swap. I want to know if it's a good idea that I buy it and save for a rebuild kit, then build it as a midly ported 4-port using 12A side housings in a year or so. Also, if it's a good idea, can someone with a truck come down to Cecil Ga (near florida/georgia line just before Valdosta) and pick it up with me, and does anybody have room to keep the block whielI save for the rebuild kit? Crit's garage... one of Billy's trailors... somewhere? I live in a condo and 250 for a running SE block with full accessories (UIM LIM injectors alternator ignition, everything) seems like a good deal I don't want to miss but I have no where to put it. When I get the kit, new rotor housings, and 12A side housings, I'd then come out and pick it up to move it in my Cousin's basement and rebuild it.
This guy is willing to sell me his 13B from his GSL-Se with trans and all engine accessories for $250. The car runs, he just wants to do a V8 swap. I want to know if it's a good idea that I buy it and save for a rebuild kit, then build it as a midly ported 4-port using 12A side housings in a year or so. Also, if it's a good idea, can someone with a truck come down to Cecil Ga (near florida/georgia line just before Valdosta) and pick it up with me, and does anybody have room to keep the block whielI save for the rebuild kit? Crit's garage... one of Billy's trailors... somewhere? I live in a condo and 250 for a running SE block with full accessories (UIM LIM injectors alternator ignition, everything) seems like a good deal I don't want to miss but I have no where to put it. When I get the kit, new rotor housings, and 12A side housings, I'd then come out and pick it up to move it in my Cousin's basement and rebuild it.
04-01-09, 09:50 AM
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04-01-09, 11:42 AM
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[QUOTE=ray green;9088016]
Hey Josh, welcome to OGTA. We welcome virtual members too, you might want to post a photo of your car and yourself in the mean time if you can't make it down for an upcoming meeting (next one is next Tuesday, April 7). Here's the usual format:
tuesday? what time and where? if were talking somewhere in GA idk if my car is mechanically stable enough just yet to make that kind of trip. i could probably do chattanooga though.
Hey Josh, welcome to OGTA. We welcome virtual members too, you might want to post a photo of your car and yourself in the mean time if you can't make it down for an upcoming meeting (next one is next Tuesday, April 7). Here's the usual format:
tuesday? what time and where? if were talking somewhere in GA idk if my car is mechanically stable enough just yet to make that kind of trip. i could probably do chattanooga though.
04-01-09, 11:51 AM
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heres a few shots of the ride.
current mods include NGK ignition system, custom exhaust 2.5" down pipe into a magnaflow muffler, FC alternator upgrade. all filters are K&N (intake, oil, and fuel) currently awaiting an electric fan conversion (have fan, just havent installed it yet) and i'm also in the market for a decent used 12a header.
current mods include NGK ignition system, custom exhaust 2.5" down pipe into a magnaflow muffler, FC alternator upgrade. all filters are K&N (intake, oil, and fuel) currently awaiting an electric fan conversion (have fan, just havent installed it yet) and i'm also in the market for a decent used 12a header.
04-01-09, 12:35 PM
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That one went right over my head Kevin, you'll have to explain it at the next meeting.
Josh that's one pretty car, thanks for the photos. I especially like the red interior and cup holder, total class. Here's my set up:
I prefer white and silver exteriors but others at OGTA would die for black like yours.
The Tuesday meeting is at Jefferies in Suwannee Georgia, us old guy don't get out of town much so Chatanooga sounds like a long way, but who knows, maybe someday. In the mean time there is always the virtual world, Chad likes to hang out there too.
Josh that's one pretty car, thanks for the photos. I especially like the red interior and cup holder, total class. Here's my set up:
I prefer white and silver exteriors but others at OGTA would die for black like yours.
The Tuesday meeting is at Jefferies in Suwannee Georgia, us old guy don't get out of town much so Chatanooga sounds like a long way, but who knows, maybe someday. In the mean time there is always the virtual world, Chad likes to hang out there too.
04-01-09, 03:08 PM
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Hey Collin, you know that's not an original motor in Sabine, but it doesn't use a serpentine belt. There's a chance you may have an older front pulley, like off a GSL-SE, that would be entirely swappable onto your engine. I'd check that front pulley to see if the pattern's symmetric or not.
04-01-09, 04:06 PM
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That one went right over my head Kevin, you'll have to explain it at the next meeting.
Josh that's one pretty car, thanks for the photos. I especially like the red interior and cup holder, total class. Here's my set up:
I prefer white and silver exteriors but others at OGTA would die for black like yours.
The Tuesday meeting is at Jefferies in Suwannee Georgia, us old guy don't get out of town much so Chatanooga sounds like a long way, but who knows, maybe someday. In the mean time there is always the virtual world, Chad likes to hang out there too.
Josh that's one pretty car, thanks for the photos. I especially like the red interior and cup holder, total class. Here's my set up:
I prefer white and silver exteriors but others at OGTA would die for black like yours.
The Tuesday meeting is at Jefferies in Suwannee Georgia, us old guy don't get out of town much so Chatanooga sounds like a long way, but who knows, maybe someday. In the mean time there is always the virtual world, Chad likes to hang out there too.
04-01-09, 07:53 PM
#4750
Gray Ghost Update
The Ghost is still sick... He did not start this morning. I am sure he'll start with a little ATF. 
Crit, any chance I can borrow your compression tester? I want to confirm the worst before I take the next step.
The next step: Anyone know where there is a clean, low milage, FB? I need something I can drive as is. I'm thinking 12A, but an SE could work. The Ghost would become a donor car.
I am hoping to bring the Ghost out to OGTA next week. It might be a farewell for him.
Crit, any chance I can borrow your compression tester? I want to confirm the worst before I take the next step.
The next step: Anyone know where there is a clean, low milage, FB? I need something I can drive as is. I'm thinking 12A, but an SE could work. The Ghost would become a donor car.
I am hoping to bring the Ghost out to OGTA next week. It might be a farewell for him.