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Old 03-21-12, 11:51 AM
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FD RX7 20B 3 Rotor 748whp vs 2012 GT-R 590whp at TX2K12

Not sure about this one would a 748rwhp 20B really be given a good match by a 590whp GTR? Or was the 20B running less power then is claimed in the video?

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the 20b was certainly toying with the gtr on the first few runs...
you can see where she starts to pull from the side view mirror and shuts down...
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Wow that was a lot of flames that came out of the exhaust at the end of the vid!
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Nice!!

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nice... I was wondering if that FD ran against anyone at TX2K12.

Thanks for sharing.
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Awesome flames, badass!
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From a low rpm/speed roll it will give it a match for a quick second but then get walked. I actually commented on this video trying to explain to the uploader that a 748whp 3 rotor FD will absolutely sh*t on a 590whp GTR. He tried to explain that 20b's and rotaries in "general have peaky power bands" and he had turbo lag as if that were some sort of excuse for that FD. A 748whp FD will put a bus lengths on that thing if they are doing a high roll. There is no way he is pushing near 748 that night, otherwise he needs a GTX42R or something is not right. A 3 rotor will make 500whp with the right porting at 11-13 psi and a 500whp 13b FD should also put some lengths on it as well.

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yea either he wasn't making the kind of stated power or he was just fooling around with him
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Theres something fishy about this "748" hp 20b rx7 -_-
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The (FD) has 150 more RWHP and is about 800 pounds lighter?. Even with the AWD of the GTR, the FD should absolutely KILL him if running properly!
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Maybe not 748 that night. Maybe he was running pump that night? Either way, that setup in the video, the FD is faster. You can tell the way it pulls. Idk why he kept shutting down.

Then again looking at the flames at the end of the vid, maybe he was running super rich and car wasnt running right lol
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Man but the sounds of that FD is priceless you cant even hear the GTR! The way the FD was creeping at the final video looks like if he wanted he will smash the GTR . But also looks like LAG from hell.
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Originally Posted by 1QWIK7
Maybe not 748 that night. Maybe he was running pump that night? Either way, that setup in the video, the FD is faster. You can tell the way it pulls. Idk why he kept shutting down.

Then again looking at the flames at the end of the vid, maybe he was running super rich and car wasnt running right lol
He made 748 on pump gas at 19 psi. Maybe he was running lower boost but all he runs is pump gas apparently. Saw the car during TX2K12.
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The FD sounded great but I gotta admit if the HP numbers for both cars were correct, then I would would have expected a much better run out of the 20b.
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I believe this is the owner of the FD...
https://www.rx7club.com/20b-forum-95/748whp-542-tq-%40-19-psi-93-octane-988771/
but his Location states Georgia when the car had Ohio plates on it...
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the last race looked alot better because he got a full brake boost and came out side by side off the start. he was letting out at the end of 4th on each race, possibly could have pulled more if he shifted into 5th. if you watch the vid in 1080hd you can see the gtr speed under the tach. the gtr was going 60-130mph in about 8-9 sec. so the rx-7 was probably 7-8sec on the same gap. i would expect faster for 740whp but all dynos read different.
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this FD is nice, love the flames at the end of the video...
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The 20B car was indeed on 18-19psi which is where it made 748whp. The dyno numbers could be inflated, but it definitely makes over 675whp as he stated. His car is clearly a 140mph car at the track.

My car was on 105 octane and at this setting runs 10.40's at 133mph consistently. Check out my videos on youtube where I pull on lighter cars with more power. It's the beauty of the dual clutch transmission and a terrific powerband. In fact, the car makes over 600wtq for nearly the whole power band as well.
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590hp GTR(approx 3800lbs curb weight) vs 748 rx7 (approx 2800 curb weight)? Power to Weight ratio GTR 6.4lb per hp vs 3.7lbs per hp. if The rx7 made another 75hp he would have had two times the horsepower to weight the GTR had. Something doesnt add up here.
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Originally Posted by rotorooter93fd
590hp GTR(approx 3800lbs curb weight) vs 748 rx7 (approx 2800 curb weight)? Power to Weight ratio GTR 6.4lb per hp vs 3.7lbs per hp. if The rx7 made another 75hp he would have had two times the horsepower to weight the GTR had. Something doesnt add up here.

Read my earlier post and you will understand.
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Originally Posted by easy2speed
Read my earlier post and you will understand.
Plus from what you said on Youtube, the FD had traction issues right? You are right about the GTR having great gearing and quick shifting, a GTR we built made 1200whp for TX2K but still couldnt pull a 1350whp Lambo.

"No you are wrong. I know the owner of the RX7. It was laggy and spun some once it hit hard. The last race was the best race with him brake boosting. The faster we went, the more the RX7 would pull."
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easy2speed, have you ever vbox your gtr? if so what was the time.

in the gtr defense it does have a very very good powerband then you throw in the instant shifts. he is making solid power the whole time so that will play into the way the car pulls so well. still the 3 rotor should have pulled harder for 740whp or even 675whp but again all dynos read different and it could have been a peaky setup. you do see the rx pull pretty good at the top of the gear. also a 3 rotor rx7 weights more around 3000 lbs from the extra engine weight etc.

easy2speed, i watch alot of the vids. did anyone beat rex supra? seems like he took down all the gtr's and lambos which is sick.
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Originally Posted by smg944
....also a 3 rotor rx7 weights more around 3000 lbs from the extra engine weight etc..
an extra rotor with housing and plate is not another 200lbs.. try 50..


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