2JZ in a 3rd gen
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Originally Posted by gainer_reniag
Watch this you will laugh when you hear this "crapo rotary" and "never over 450hp"
Watch what? LOL
I am guessing you meant to link to the video of the 2JZ in the Honda S2000 and talking about the part when they talk about doing the same swap into the FD in the driveway.
I have to say I wouldnt mind seeing a 2JZGTE in a 3rd gen 7 (Puts flame suit on).
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Originally Posted by glosoli
I dont think its a bad swap but the guy is a moron just by saying the rotary couldnt get more than 450hp.
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Originally Posted by NTIMD8
Watch what? LOL
I am guessing you meant to link to the video of the 2JZ in the Honda S2000 and talking about the part when they talk about doing the same swap into the FD in the driveway.
I have to say I wouldnt mind seeing a 2JZGTE in a 3rd gen 7 (Puts flame suit on).
I am guessing you meant to link to the video of the 2JZ in the Honda S2000 and talking about the part when they talk about doing the same swap into the FD in the driveway.
I have to say I wouldnt mind seeing a 2JZGTE in a 3rd gen 7 (Puts flame suit on).
Its been done already.
Once someone finds an easier/cheaper way to make this conversion or when its easy as the LS1 conversion, thats when im doing it.
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Originally Posted by 1QWIK7
Its been done already.
Once someone finds an easier/cheaper way to make this conversion or when its easy as the LS1 conversion, thats when im doing it.
Once someone finds an easier/cheaper way to make this conversion or when its easy as the LS1 conversion, thats when im doing it.
If/when my motor lets go I plan on doing an LSX swap but if the 2JZ gets as easy (as you said) then my choice between the LSX and 2JZ will be a hard one to make.
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Here you go guys.. this is the vid he meant to post...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WirkG...elated&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WirkG...elated&search=
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Originally Posted by NTIMD8
If/when my motor lets go I plan on doing an LSX swap but if the 2JZ gets as easy (as you said) then my choice between the LSX and 2JZ will be a hard one to make.
Damn he said around 16k for the complete conversion.
You dont have to shop for parts or anything, just drop off and pick up 2 weeks later.
Plus if you sell all the rotary stuff including engine and tranny, you can get about 5k or + depending on what mods you had.
So thats like 10k for the ULTIMATE beast. Sexy *** curves of the FD with amazing torque and reliability of the 2JZ.
Damn if they were only closer, my car would be in their house right now.
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16 grand is steep IMHO but there is a lot of custom work being done so I can understand the price tag. I would go with the LSx swap in a heart beat at that price since it would be so much cheaper. I would also look into a fabbing up a turbo kit and run low boost on the LSx motor.
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Damn he said around 16k for the complete conversion.
You dont have to shop for parts or anything, just drop off and pick up 2 weeks later.
Plus if you sell all the rotary stuff including engine and tranny, you can get about 5k or + depending on what mods you had.
So thats like 10k for the ULTIMATE beast. Sexy *** curves of the FD with amazing torque and reliability of the 2JZ.
Damn if they were only closer, my car would be in their house right now.
You dont have to shop for parts or anything, just drop off and pick up 2 weeks later.
Plus if you sell all the rotary stuff including engine and tranny, you can get about 5k or + depending on what mods you had.
So thats like 10k for the ULTIMATE beast. Sexy *** curves of the FD with amazing torque and reliability of the 2JZ.
Damn if they were only closer, my car would be in their house right now.
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But wouldnt that be insane! I would might just pass out if somebody popped the hood of an FD and seen a 2JZ..... 30psi+2700lbs= Death machine!!!!!!! just the way we like it
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Originally Posted by gainer_reniag
But wouldnt that be insane! I would might just pass out if somebody popped the hood of an FD and seen a 2JZ..... 30psi+2700lbs= Death machine!!!!!!! just the way we like it
And therein lies the controversy.... Rotary Purists, vs. People with Ambitions to have a Supercar Look, with a Supercar feel, and a Daily Driver Reliability....
No matter what you do, you'll always get Hate...
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shure its been done but does it work ?...some guys have done it including sp-engineering i think but it just doesnt give god result , balance is all off and what about bumpsteer unless you want to run around with half the motor sticking out of the engine bay, or cutting the firewall to have half the engine under the dash ....hhmmm dunno seems easyier to do a 20B...besides everytime you here that one of those 2jz rx7 runs "good" its always from a friend who knows a friend whos married to their some friend daughter that mops the floor in that shop that knows the car is running ok , if it was that easy everyone would be doing it
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Originally Posted by glosoli
I think its better just buying a supra and calling it a day.
How is it better?
FOr a cheaper price (if you already have the FD) to spend this amount and you have a 2700lbs machine with this torquey 2JZ fitted with a single turbo.
Im assuming that s2k was making around 450-500hp, i dont know the turbo they used.. Since they are similar in weight with the FD, that is AMAZING for the price. Not to mention you have a great engine note, reliability and more power potential than you can imagine.
I love supras to death but they are expensive, just to even buy. Unless you find a high mileage automatic and do all the work yourself. But to have a beastly supra mking 600 or more, thats gonna run the bill up pretty fast.
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Originally Posted by Unholy FD3S
yea lol
its not better at all
its not better at all
IMHO, nothing is better, its really all personal preference.
If you want the best of both worlds, a swapped FD is the way to go.
To me, if the supra was A BIT cheaper, i would have gotten that. The body style screams muscle, sure its not exotic or timeless looking of the FD but it has muscle character.
You back up that muscle character with plain ***** to the wall power and you got your self a car. And with the supra, you're hardly limited cause it can handle it. If you're gonna spend, spend it once, spend it right and enjoy it LONG.
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While I do agree that the 2JZ is one of the best engines to come from Japan, I personally wouldnt put it in the FD. As others have mentioned, it is a long, heavy engine. Also, its an engine that is no longer in production. At least with the LSx swaps, your not trading off any weight for the power/reliability, and it is still an evolving market with new parts coming out and lots of aftermarket/GM support. I think with the 2JZ you are going to be in the same boat as the rotary, a niche market with expensive parts that youd need to special order and are expensive. I would rather stick with the 13B or do a mild 20B, but thats all just personal preference.
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Originally Posted by Rxmfn7
While I do agree that the 2JZ is one of the best engines to come from Japan, I personally wouldnt put it in the FD. As others have mentioned, it is a long, heavy engine. Also, its an engine that is no longer in production. At least with the LSx swaps, your not trading off any weight for the power/reliability, and it is still an evolving market with new parts coming out and lots of aftermarket/GM support. I think with the 2JZ you are going to be in the same boat as the rotary, a niche market with expensive parts that youd need to special order and are expensive. I would rather stick with the 13B or do a mild 20B, but thats all just personal preference.
As much fact there is in your post, that still doesnt hold the fact that putting a different type of engine in the FD isnt a great option, regardless of price or a change in performance aspect.
The LSx engine is becoming more common into the FD as they are with rotarys lol.
Before, it was wow! Now when i see an FD, i think of 2 engines, the stock 13B or the LS1. And 50% of the time, its either or. Theres no more wow factor. Its played out basically.
And you wont be in the same boat with the 2JZ because there are far more shops that work on these engines, moreso than the rotary. You are also forgetting the 2JZ is near bulletproof, and more reliable, not finicky like the rotary so when a little problem occurs, you dont need to take it to the shop and have them diagnose a 10 dollar item that failed while you pay 600 bucks for labor. Why do you think everyone is afraid of working on our cars? Because mechanics get paid by job. If they spend 2,3,4, 5 hours to diagnose a turbo problem and get paid like 100 bucks for doing so, they could have done like a whole engine swap on another car in that time and made 10x that much for his pocket.