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Old 05-09-11, 03:53 PM
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Rear Rebuild Questions Ford 8.8

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I spent Saturday night with a few friends at Speedtek getting a new rear ready. None of us have ever rebuilt a Ford Rear before but followed instructions online. I have a few questions about the tooth pattern.

Preload and backlash is all set. Preload was 25 inch lbs and backlash was .009

I would like some opinions on the gear patterns please. Let me know what you guys think. Thanks Allen for the advice earlier.

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You can see all the pictures here, one is below. I also took pics of the coast side.

http://www.rx7s.com/rear/
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Post that mustang **** on the yellow bullet.. just messin with you but you will get the anwsers you need over there quick.
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Contact patch looks shallow, like the pinion depth is short. what'd you set pinion depth at? any # on the pinion? sometimes ive seen ford pinions with +\- #'s to give you baseline on pinion depth.

atached is nice contact pattern on a 8.8
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There's more to it then backlash.
You need to set pinion depth as bacon stated. You'll need to shim it according.
Using ford motorsport gears would allow u to use the factory shim if it was an opened rear.
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http://www.richmondgear.com/ringandpinion.pdf


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theres also
http://www.youtube.com/user/WeberAuto

I like it better than reading

A diff is a diff, ford, toyota, mazda. Some are just harder to make minor shim changes to. Using a non lock nut for the pinion, helps for the multiple shim changes. (replace with locking nut once you get shimed it right)
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Originally Posted by sk8world
Post that mustang **** on the yellow bullet.. just messin with you but you will get the anwsers you need over there quick.


Originally Posted by Bacon
Contact patch looks shallow, like the pinion depth is short. what'd you set pinion depth at? any # on the pinion? sometimes ive seen ford pinions with +\- #'s to give you baseline on pinion depth.

atached is nice contact pattern on a 8.8
Thanks!!! I think I should have taken pics of the other teeth when the gear marking compound walked over. The pics I took were the wrong ones no? We set the pinion depth according to the instructions. It should be perfect but I will double check. Yes the top of the pinion gear did have the numbers on there too.

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There's more to it then backlash.
You need to set pinion depth as bacon stated. You'll need to shim it according.
Using ford motorsport gears would allow u to use the factory shim if it was an opened rear.
Thanks Enzo, the first thing we did was sent the pinion depth and then the preload, I'm going to double check everything again. I bought a crush washer elimination kit so I can easily double check it.

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Thanks Allen

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theres also
http://www.youtube.com/user/WeberAuto

I like it better than reading

A diff is a diff, ford, toyota, mazda. Some are just harder to make minor shim changes to. Using a non lock nut for the pinion, helps for the multiple shim changes. (replace with locking nut once you get shimed it right)
I love videos lol Thanks!!!
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Take it to mustang magic in Deer park.. That's what I did Less stress for me

I rebuilt those sucks like 10yrs ago in tech school but forgot just about everything :-(
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Originally Posted by RoTaRyBoYz
Take it to mustang magic in Deer park.. That's what I did Less stress for me

I rebuilt those sucks like 10yrs ago in tech school but forgot just about everything :-(
Yeah I know, funny thing is that they are walking distance from my house too so I was thinking the same thing. I really just want to learn how to do it properly myself. There are so many little tricks. For example, I spoke to Allen and told him I hated having to press the pinion bearing on and off and he explained to me an easy way to do it.

Hone your OLD bearing so it slides on and off, then take your measurements, once pinion depth is set correctly, press the new bearing on. That's pretty smart.

I'm surprised Allen and Cris are still taking my calls lol.
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Did he tell you about the ole Pinion in the oven trick to get the bearing on?

Told you I have a new 8.8 rebuilt kit here with everything.. Hope you didn't go out and buy all new bearings etc
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anthony is feeling the pressure!!!
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Originally Posted by Judge Ito
anthony is feeling the pressure!!!
LOL

I'll be helping Anthony install the 8.8 tomorrow night over at speed tek. I have a strong feeling he'll be in the very low 9's this season..... but I'm enjoying the view from up top for the short time i'll be here....
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I can't wait to see everyone at the track this year, it's going to be a pleasure to see the rotaries put it down.
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What gear ratio you guys running now?
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Originally Posted by sk8world
What gear ratio you guys running now?
There's too much competition for secrets now.
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Originally Posted by sk8world
What gear ratio you guys running now?
I'm running a 4.3, Roan is on a 4.56, both are Ford Motorsports gears.


Originally Posted by ultimatejay
There's too much competition for secrets now.
Never!

Originally Posted by SPEED_NYC
LOL

I'll be helping Anthony install the 8.8 tomorrow night over at speed tek. I have a strong feeling he'll be in the very low 9's this season..... but I'm enjoying the view from up top for the short time i'll be here....
Thanks Roan, we'll know soon.

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anthony is feeling the pressure!!!
Yes lol!
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Thanks for the videos and help with the rear. I am done with it. Roan and I spent quite some time at Speedtek and put it in the car. I swapped over to a 94 subframe so the Justin Samberg rear bolted easily into place. All should be good. Just waiting on a driveshaft now...
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Originally Posted by AnthonyNYC
Thanks for the videos and help with the rear. I am done with it. Roan and I spent quite some time at Speedtek and put it in the car. I swapped over to a 94 subframe so the Justin Samberg rear bolted easily into place. All should be good. Just waiting on a driveshaft now...
Anthony, do you have any pictures of the rearend in your car?
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I predict he'll skip the 9's.....
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Originally Posted by ErnieT
I predict he'll skip the 9's.....

me too!
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Originally Posted by sk8world
me too!
Originally Posted by ErnieT
I predict he'll skip the 9's.....
No way! It's still a 2800lb FD making 600HP!!! I'm just trying to get into the 9s right now lol.

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Anthony, do you have any pictures of the rearend in your car?
Yes Jay, I'll pull them off my phone in a few minutes and post them.
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Jay,

Here are 2 pics, one of the in the car. The subframe adapter is made by Justin Samberg but I got it through SpeedNYC. He knows Justin and has bought a few so I paid him and he took care of it for me. I believe others also bought their subframes from Roan.





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Looking good Ant.
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