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Old 01-02-11, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by KNONFS
Sounds like you are giving up too, whats up with that?
peer pressure meng... Just look around, we are surrounded by it

LOL @ Allen...
Old 01-02-11, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by enzo250
No that's initial cost.
FYI...Brand new short block with EVERYTHING new is $4k. Malloy Mazda. Give em a call. You woulda saved alot of money.
Old 01-02-11, 09:26 PM
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We all know that white men can't jump, but can they rotor? Hmmmmm

Hey I used to be able to slam dunk a volleyball on a 10ft basketball hoop and I am a 5'10" white boy.

So I guess I can jump and rotor.
Old 01-02-11, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ultimatejay

Hey I used to be able to slam dunk a volleyball on a 10ft basketball hoop and I am a 5'10" white boy.

WOW, this thread just got real gay. Did you do that when you were showing off for the boys in Venice Beach?
Old 01-02-11, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ErnieT
FYI...Brand new short block with EVERYTHING new is $4k. Malloy Mazda. Give em a call. You woulda saved alot of money.
Yeah really? Try getting one without waiting weeks for one..
And then I would have to tear it apart and semi the housing's, dowel pins, get new apex seals, closeup kits, balancing parts, etc and I'm right back at 6k or more.
So what's your point here again?
Old 01-03-11, 12:32 AM
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i say since cars have v8s, 4 banger's,6 banger's whatever,they should move on to other threads or other forums for info, criticism and info exchange.

This is an Rx7 forum keep it Rotary powered or move it.
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Originally Posted by enzo250
Yeah really? Try getting one without waiting weeks for one..
And then I would have to tear it apart and semi the housing's, dowel pins, get new apex seals, closeup kits, balancing parts, etc and I'm right back at 6k or more.
So what's your point here again?
You were saying you had to buy housings, etc. My point was its cheaper to buy a brand new motor (which Ray keeps atleast 4 on hand) and doin the semi is easy enough. Balancing is $250 at Atkins. So Again, my point is its not as expensive as you make it out to be, unless you get one pass per engine.
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Your right Ernie. Next time I'll just go to home depot and get a set of hole saws and do my own semi's and save some money.
I'm done arguing with you. It gets no where. Worry about getting your own car to a race track more then once a year.
Old 01-03-11, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by 13B-RX3
WOW, this thread just got real gay. Did you do that when you were showing off for the boys in Venice Beach?
No I never played volleyball at Venice beach. I only worked out my big muscles.

Man this thread went to ****. Sorry Chris, lets get back on track here fellers.
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haha.... this thread went really bad
Old 01-03-11, 11:37 AM
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I tore apart the engine Saturday and for some reason it wiped out the front and rear main bearings!
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Silly question but do all of your rotors and counterweights match?
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Originally Posted by mazda rx2 rotary
I tore apart the engine Saturday and for some reason it wiped out the front and rear main bearings!
is this the motor with the guru bolts ? and are you using rx8 stationarys 3 window bearing front and back ?
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Originally Posted by 13b-rx3
silly question but do all of your rotors and counterweights match?
+1 and I already talked to him about the oil mods
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I don't think it was an oiling problem unless he had an internal leak from the pump or pickup. Killing bearings and rotors smacking housings screams balance issues to me! Or it could also be that insane amount of timing he was running flattening the bearings.
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Chris post a pictures of those bearings to get a better idea ? sounds to me like a majors twist of the front and back plates ? are the plates crack ?
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Originally Posted by enzo250
Your right Ernie. Next time I'll just go to home depot and get a set of hole saws and do my own semi's and save some money.
I'm done arguing with you. It gets no where. Worry about getting your own car to a race track more then once a year.
Im not arguing at all. Im mearly pointing out facts, but i was wrong. A brand new engine is not $4k, its $3600. So the extra savings will pay for your balancing
As far as me, I thought I raced at 4 different events this year, winning two of them. They actually have a piston rx7 forum so your all set
Old 01-03-11, 04:47 PM
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I must be missing something. . .

Is it just me, or does it seem like people are actively trying to push away someone who has contributed to this community and continues to help members of this community, simply because he wants to push around some pistons (AND some rotors) for a while? It's unreal to me that folks could be so resentful for another person's decision that affects ONLY them. You guys treat him like he stole from you or talked badly about your mother.
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Enzo, as much as I'm against v8s into FD chassis (not as much FC chassis), you're still my buddy and I'll still come to you for tuning in a heartbeart. Oh, and I'll still refer all my 'special' customers to you as well
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Originally Posted by 13B-RX3
I don't think it was an oiling problem unless he had an internal leak from the pump or pickup. Killing bearings and rotors smacking housings screams balance issues to me! Or it could also be that insane amount of timing he was running flattening the bearings.

Well, when the bearings spin that causes the e shaft to move and that could also cause the rotors to touch. Seen it several times. So it could be an oil problem too. I know he is using 9.7 rotors and he told me he was using the right counterweights.
Old 01-03-11, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ErnieT
Im not arguing at all. Im mearly pointing out facts, but i was wrong. A brand new engine is not $4k, its $3600. So the extra savings will pay for your balancing
As far as me, I thought I raced at 4 different events this year, winning two of them. They actually have a piston rx7 forum so your all set

Do those two events that you "won" really feel like an accomplishment when nobody shows up to your class and the ones that do run 11s lol ? Wasn't your car running consistent 14s and you had to cry to Ray about what went wrong ?

I dont understand why you keep talking about facts when all you do is listen to what others say and the BS Ray feeds you on why your motors keep breaking so you continue to pay the bills.

Just keep paying the bills, leave the facts to the people who have done it.

and is that 3600 price 5 years old ? I remember calling last year to Hempstead Mazda and was quoted 5500.00 for a real all brand new motor.. Whatever was left of the refurb ones were selling for 3600.
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We all can get some useful info out of this thread
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Originally Posted by calculon
I must be missing something. . .

Is it just me, or does it seem like people are actively trying to push away someone who has contributed to this community and continues to help members of this community, simply because he wants to push around some pistons (AND some rotors) for a while? It's unreal to me that folks could be so resentful for another person's decision that affects ONLY them. You guys treat him like he stole from you or talked badly about your mother.
+1.. some are also the same ones that he helped out when "their source" were proved incompetent to fix their problems.
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Originally Posted by ultimatejay
Well, when the bearings spin that causes the e shaft to move and that could also cause the rotors to touch. Seen it several times. So it could be an oil problem too. I know he is using 9.7 rotors and he told me he was using the right counterweights.
The shops would probably say you need to pin the bearings, I had a set done back when I was using p-port/ nitrous because I spun 1or 2 rotor bearings .I say is good but it wont keep the bearings from wearing nasty when the e shaft flexes , I would say cure the flex problem ( if you think flex is a problem). what I did now that I use alky I don't use any racing oils like 50 or 60 weight, I don't use deep groove bearings with rotors so I use regular 10w-40 weight because is cost effective and does the job for me. spun bearings without a doubt in stock, high rev p-port engines is an oiling related problem , let's say we all done are homework and you clearance the rotors,have good oil pressure ,high volume oil pump,3 window bearings front and back and deep groove rotor bearings and you still spin a bearing, I would say your chasing a problem that relates to engine flexing


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