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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 08:12 PM
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And this is how the ROTARY was BANNED FROM NHRA.

I had to pull some teeth to get the guy from ESPN (Bret Kepner) to write this little peice on Terry Hoard's 4 Rotor RX3.

Most of you were still in your dads bag when this happened but this is history, folks.

It was Terry Hoard's skill, much more than his RX3, which eventually led to the removal of rotaries from conventional NHRA Drag Racing. Hoard competed in (the original) Modified Eliminator which used indices created by NHRA Tech Officials for handicapping purposes with no breakout enforced. Under normal circumstances, NHRA Tech tried to keep the quickest runs in any given class around one second quicker than the class Index.

Hoard's RX3 originally fit into the C/Modified Compact classification but quickly proved to be much more than a second quicker than the index. The Modified Compact classes included a variety of foreign four-cylinder powerplants. However, NHRA knew revising the Index to fit Hoard's performance would simply obliterate every other car in the C/MC class so they simply moved the four-rotor RX3 combination into B/MC, one class higher.

Hoard destroyed the Index in that class, too, so NHRA moved him to A/MC. He bombed the competition again. By this time, (early 1980), NHRA was finally admitting they had no clue how to accurately classify the Wankel against standard piston-engine combinations other than to throw a ton...okay, maybe a half ton...of weight into the car to slow it down and equalize it with the four-bangers.

Eventually, they put Hoard in the AA/MC class in which he was forced to run against turbocharged four-cylinders, (Buddy Ingersoll's turbo Pinto was the killer at the time), but Hoard had to run without a blower. He still romped.

When NHRA killed Modified Eliminator at the end of 1981, they disseminated all Modified classes into either Competition Eliminator or Super Stock Eliminator. However, the NHRA was so tired of chasing Hoard's Mazda they simply wrote the combination out of the rulebook. To this day, nobody has developed an equitable method of comparing the power potential of Wankels versus piston engines in conventional NHRA racing.

And that, children, is how the Grinch stole Triangles.
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 08:28 PM
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What did the rotaries run in the 80s?
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 08:30 PM
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this is true history there thanks for sharing with us...
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 08:35 PM
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This shot is of Jim Mederer from Oregon winning Modified Eliminator at the 1978 NHRA Winternationals. One year later, Terry Hoard and his Samurai Warrior '77 four-rotor began a string of wins which made sure rotaries were banned from NHRA Drag Racing forever.
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 08:39 PM
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You know the story about what happened to the 'Samurai Warrior' when he decided to take on the PR crew at the time.
Let's see how far back you go then.
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 08:49 PM
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look @ those people.....
with their afros and what not....
That reminds me of vintage ****..um...I mean disco,...
yeah Disco.
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 09:37 PM
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And this is how the ROTARY was BANNED FROM NHRA.

yes crispeed he got worked by the puertoricans.
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by rotary8
yes crispeed he got worked by the puertoricans.
with a 12a
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by rotary8
yes crispeed he got worked by the puertoricans.
Which one to be exact?
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Old Dec 13, 2007 | 06:15 AM
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Which one to be exact?
Vivo Racing?
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Old Dec 13, 2007 | 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by crispeed
Which one to be exact?
the original "Loquito" Senor.... Beno Velez
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Old Dec 13, 2007 | 08:44 AM
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Good work you got bumped from Sportsman index racing against NA 4 bangers in the early 80's......IMPRESSIVE!!!!

Since Demetrious runs NHRA I wouldnt go as far as to say the rotary was "banned from NHRA".
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Old Dec 13, 2007 | 10:15 AM
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Good read Viking War Hammer... very inspiring.
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Old Dec 13, 2007 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by LT1RX7
Good work you got bumped from Sportsman index racing against NA 4 bangers in the early 80's......IMPRESSIVE!!!!

Since Demetrious runs NHRA I wouldnt go as far as to say the rotary was "banned from NHRA".
These guys are speaking about the original NHRA where its mostly a V8 sport... Dee competes in NHRA "sportcompact" which was formed for small displacement motors including the rotary... BTW Dee no longer runs a rotary..
Never knew racing beat's Jim Mederer was into drag racing, all thought those guys were road racers
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Old Dec 13, 2007 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Judge Ito
the original "Loquito" Senor.... Beno Velez
I was waaaay off
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Old Dec 13, 2007 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Judge Ito
the original "Loquito" Senor.... Beno Velez
BINGO!!!!!!!!
There use to be pics of beno vs the samurai warrior on some site.
I remember when 'beno' use to take the rx-3 out to lakeland dragstrip way back in the 90's. It was around the same time 'ping', 'loquito' junior built the r-100. I also remember the rivalry between him and 'Edwin' 'Loquito Killer'. Those were the good old days.
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Old Dec 13, 2007 | 10:46 AM
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Ito.
Do you know who 'Cripspeed' was?
Can't remember if it was spelt with a K or C.
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Old Dec 13, 2007 | 12:05 PM
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El loquito papa
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Old Dec 13, 2007 | 07:05 PM
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history

I've bookmarked this site almost 10years ago and im supprise its still alive.. http://www.go.to/puertorico
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Old Dec 13, 2007 | 07:29 PM
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A wee bit outdated . I remember this site though. I ran across it looking for info about papote's RX-3. He IS the reason i built my rx. After seeing his car i was hooked!!!!!


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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 09:25 AM
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This car (Racing beat) is still alive..in Mayagues PR...and the black RX3 that says Loquito is also alive in PR..they should be in a museum..
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Old Dec 17, 2007 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by crispeed
Ito.
Do you know who 'Cripspeed' was?
Can't remember if it was spelt with a K or C.
not sure cris, from where??
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Old Dec 17, 2007 | 06:36 PM
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Amazing, I never thought this was the reason why there are no rotaries in NHRA.
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Old Dec 17, 2007 | 06:57 PM
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Old Dec 17, 2007 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by crispeed
Ito.
Do you know who 'Cripspeed' was?
Can't remember if it was spelt with a K or C.
that was the guy who started KFC , right
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