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Old 01-14-08, 05:28 PM
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Anyone we know????

I talked to Daddy today, i will shoot you PM later.
Yes and ok!
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It has nothing to do with hurting anyone's feelings. I could say the same for the users of the 'Super Seals' also but I won't.

This thread is about 'unbreakable' apex seals.
I thought aviation seals are "super seals" with the aviation name on them ?

talk about them
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I thought aviation seals are "super seals" with the aviation name on them ?

talk about them

They are black in color!
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Old 01-14-08, 05:42 PM
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They are black in color!

hahaha $20 says you get a PM from Eric shortly if you have not already.
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hahaha $20 says you get a PM from Eric shortly if you have not already.
You know how I am. I try to avoid the e-bay buyers like if it was the plague!
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hahaha $20 says you get a PM from Eric shortly if you have not already.
screw that, i'm going to grind down some scrap metal and make my own

i'm going to shooooooow you guys
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Old 01-14-08, 05:47 PM
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You know how I am. I try to avoid the e-bay buyers like if it was the plague!
hey now, that's where I get my TYPE-RRRRRRRRRRRRRR parts at. true racers dont stray from ebay
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screw that, i'm going to grind down some scrap metal and make my own

i'm going to shooooooow you guys
What color spray paint are you going to coat them with.
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Old 01-14-08, 05:49 PM
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"super seal" in a can. We'll make millions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
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What color spray paint are you going to coat them with.
Was thinking about using some high dollar custom coating. This is the same they use on the Space Shuttle. I wouldn't want to warp my racing seals.

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Old 01-14-08, 05:53 PM
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Was thinking about using some high dollar custom coating. This is the same they use on the Space Shuttle. I wouldn't want to warp my racing seals.

They use ceramics on both the space and 1/4 mile land shuttles so no need for coating.
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They use ceramics on both the space and 1/4 mile land shuttles so no need for coating.
thanks for the lesson there, pops
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Weither they bend or break it's the same result right- rebuild time? The only advantage I see with the one's that bend is that they might save some internal components- housing/rotors right?
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Old 01-14-08, 06:58 PM
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Hard seals =



Soft seals =

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Hard seals =



Soft seals =

what the hell, did you throw a rod ?
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Old 01-14-08, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by crispeed
What I would like too see are some 'PTS' results from actual daily driven high powered applications.
yes, this is what i'm interested in as well, so if anyone has any experiences to share, please do.
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Hard seals =

good god! my hat's off to you!
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Why would anyone buy these (PTS) when you can get ceramics for about the same price, or a little more.
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Why would anyone buy these (PTS) when you can get ceramics for about the same price, or a little more.
Because ceramics break and when they do say good buy to your housings.
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I'm looking for the post where the motor showed good compression even with the broken ceramic apex seal.


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I've been reading this thread along with the NRS one so I can know what exactly is the way to go. Keep it up. Good reading.
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I'm looking for the post where the motor showed good compression even with the broken ceramic apex seal.


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I've been reading this thread along with the NRS one so I can know what exactly is the way to go. Keep it up. Good reading.
How can you have good compression with a broken apex seal? Maybe if it was cracked in half and both the apex pieces were still in the apex groove then it might pass a compression test, but a piece totally broken off and missing, no way.
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For my money its NRS ceramics, with methanol injection proper tuning (based on knock detection, EGT, AFR and power output) correct heat range spark plugs, a haltech E8 (in future will upgrade to platinum system) with the correction maps tuned to prevent knock in the event of system failure's, and a knock lite with an output connected to the haltech trims for fuel and ignition set up to increase fuel and decrease advance in the event of knock.
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of course not, I was merely showing how the housing(s) did not get damaged as was stated above.
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