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abelrx8 01-11-08 02:05 PM

Unbreakable Apex Seals
 
i just thought i would let you guys know that the only seals that will NOT break are the PTS seals out of aus. these seals also work on street cars well i have a friend who put them in a 600 hp sandrail cosmo engine and has not had a problem and he beats the car up for hours at a time at glamis. a crank broke on me on time split the rotor housing where you could see the rotor. the seals deformed bad went 3mm to .5mm in some spots but did not break.

abel

t-von 01-11-08 03:29 PM

Thx for sharing Abel. Do you have any knowledge of if these seals are harmfull to the housings for long term mileage? Also any knowledge about rpm limitations? Rotary R&D just keeps getting better and better. Soon your average blow engine will be a thing of the past.

dial8 01-11-08 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by t-von (Post 7727730)
Thx for sharing Abel. Do you have any knowledge of if these seals are harmfull to the housings for long term mileage? Also any knowledge about rpm limitations? Rotary R&D just keeps getting better and better. Soon your average blow engine will be a thing of the past.

+1. Get back to us.

13B-RX3 01-11-08 04:22 PM

Do you know where i can buy a set of theses seals?:rolleyes:

classicauto 01-11-08 04:24 PM

"never say never"

:dunno:

crispeed 01-11-08 04:44 PM

This is going to be good. :lol:
Grabs popcorn.

Here's the list of unbreakable seals for those who didn't know they existed before.

PTS or Performance Tested Seals.
http://www.performancetestedseals.com/

PTS apex seals
http://www.performancetestedseals.com/images/seals3.jpg

SCR or South Coast Rotary apex seals.
http://southcoastrotary.com.au/scrseals.htm

SCR apex seals
http://southcoastrotary.com.au/Images/seals_1.jpg
http://southcoastrotary.com.au/Images/seals_2.jpg
SCR corner seals.
http://southcoastrotary.com.au/Images/Picture.jpg

kabooski 01-11-08 05:12 PM

side seals coming soon :)
damm awesome more R&D
all we need are forged aluminum rotors
think of it, I have some pictures of some in testing :D
fresh of the CNC machine

crispeed 01-11-08 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by kabooski (Post 7728073)
I have some pictures of some in testing :D
fresh of the CNC machine

You do don't you! :lol:

13B-RX3 01-11-08 05:27 PM

You would think something that soft would wear very fast. It says they don't wear the housings, something has to wear.

Viking War Hammer 01-11-08 05:49 PM

abel, sorry I didn't call you monday. Will call soon

crispeed 01-11-08 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by 13B-RX3 (Post 7728131)
You would think something that soft would wear very fast. It says they don't wear the housings, something has to wear.


That depends on some people's idea of very fast or long lasting. :lol:
For some if it last the 1/4mile or make it pass the burnout box then it's long lasting. For others who don't mind taking the motor out everytime they bend/warp then it's ok also. Then there are the rest of folks out there that need something different.
If it's the 60ft, 1320ft, 1-200 laps or 1-100k miles it's up to you to determine what works best for you. There are products out there to satisfy everyone's needs presently.

kabooski 01-11-08 11:27 PM


Originally Posted by crispeed (Post 7728096)
You do don't you! :lol:

really I do :D

http://i15.tinypic.com/6z5ratw.jpg

Terrh 01-11-08 11:56 PM

I'm working on CF rotors with ceramic faces..

it /IS/ possible.

phoenix7 01-12-08 04:14 AM

^^^^^o rly?

RotaryBred 01-12-08 05:25 AM

wow for a set of six the "recommended retail price" is $1300 AUD which is only $1160 USD! Definetly a worthy investment. I'm gonna have to pick me up set

Uncle Hungry 01-12-08 08:47 AM

Has anybody else "gauranteed" them not to break?

ultimatejay 01-12-08 06:57 PM

That is a pretty big claim to stand by on- unbreakable. Probably just means that they bend like Gumby. hehe

abelrx8 01-13-08 12:56 AM

the rotor housings come out looking very good and yes something does have to wear you would not expect some thing to last forever. the tune up will determine your fate so if your an idiot or you go to one , then they will bend or wear but under no circumstance break

abel

diabolical1 01-13-08 08:10 AM

how do these things perform in a street car that may only be raced occasionally? just curious ...

philiptompkins 01-14-08 11:21 AM

i'd have to give my Rotary Aviation Apex seals a +1, I've detonated the motor pretty badly a few times and its still strong. Last comp test at about 10-15k miles showed 110+ on all faces.
I'm useing stock springs BTW.

Jason 01-14-08 04:59 PM

Aviation seals dont break. We stuck them in a press and they just bend in half, similar to what the PTS seals do.

Jason

crispeed 01-14-08 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by Jason (Post 7738788)
Aviation seals dont break. We stuck them in a press and they just bend in half, similar to what the PTS seals do.

Jason

In the category of 'bendable' seals the 'PTS' are the only ones I've seen work in some high horsepower applications. The 'Aviation' I will not just comment on those in the very same applications! :)

What I would like too see are some 'PTS' results from actual daily driven high powered applications.

There are another brand 'bendable' of apex seals that are going to hit the market soon. I've seen those in testing being tried to be broken. Let's say everything else broke on the motor except the apex seal so they did what was claimed.

Viking War Hammer 01-14-08 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by crispeed (Post 7738824)
The 'Aviation' I will not just comment on those in the very same applications! :)


Comment on them, you big woman ! You aint gonna hurt nobodies feelings !


:cylonA:

crispeed 01-14-08 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by Viking War Hammer (Post 7738837)
Comment on them, you big woman ! You aint gonna hurt nobodies feelings !
:cylonA:

It has nothing to do with hurting anyone's feelings. I could say the same for the users of the 'Super Seals' also but I won't. :)

This thread is about 'unbreakable' apex seals.

13B-RX3 01-14-08 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by crispeed (Post 7738824)
There are another brand 'bendable' of apex seals that are going to hit the market soon. I've seen those in testing being tried to be broken. Let's say everything else broke on the motor except the apex seal so they did what was claimed.

Anyone we know????:cool:

I talked to Daddy today, i will shoot you PM later.


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