NRS Rotorsports ceramic seal test results
10-27-07, 10:55 AM
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Why in the hell is ErnieT a mod. Shouldn't he be setting a good example instead of mucking up an informative thread. People can make their own decisions, we don't need some jackass telling us what we should and shouldn't use.
Sorry about the clutter Sven, just wait a few minutes and this post will be gone.
Sorry about the clutter Sven, just wait a few minutes and this post will be gone.
10-27-07, 11:10 AM
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Only reason I posted in the first place was to share my experiences. Then after I thought about it, I thought it best to retract the post. After that, it was ME that was attacked, not the other way around. All you have to do is read for yourself and you can see that. Only thing I did after that point was defend myself. Sorry to "clutter" your thread Glassman. You do have a good product to offer. Never said you didn't.
10-27-07, 11:34 AM
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Only reason I posted in the first place was to share my experiences. Then after I thought about it, I thought it best to retract the post. After that, it was ME that was attacked, not the other way around. All you have to do is read for yourself and you can see that. Only thing I did after that point was defend myself. Sorry to "clutter" your thread Glassman. You do have a good product to offer. Never said you didn't.
A summary of your post; seals are going to damage your engine, a huge rip off, people don't need them. Good product, never said you didn't.....my ***
I didn't open this can of worms..you did.
Now are we finally done here???
10-27-07, 11:54 AM
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I can relate with erniet, I've said some things in the past (When I had a drinking problem). After you realize what you've said and delete it, it's just too late.
I read what erniet said and didn't think it was THAT bad. Just spur of the moment running of the mouth, we've all done it right ?
He already said he was sorry, relax dudes
I read what erniet said and didn't think it was THAT bad. Just spur of the moment running of the mouth, we've all done it right ?
He already said he was sorry, relax dudes
10-29-07, 12:23 PM
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Man i though everyone hated me cause i was a piston guy now
Wow!!! I should check what is going on more often. For the record I never ever said do not use ceramic seals. And ecspecially never bashed the NRS brand as i happen know they do work in high hp applications along with some other seals that i have had good luck with like the Super Seal from Kenny Mercado. I would feel comfortable using either one of these in a race car or street car if i was tuning it.
What i do usually preach to people is get your tune close first, then try a ceramic seal that way if you do make a mistake it wont be to bad.
Wow!!! I should check what is going on more often. For the record I never ever said do not use ceramic seals. And ecspecially never bashed the NRS brand as i happen know they do work in high hp applications along with some other seals that i have had good luck with like the Super Seal from Kenny Mercado. I would feel comfortable using either one of these in a race car or street car if i was tuning it.
What i do usually preach to people is get your tune close first, then try a ceramic seal that way if you do make a mistake it wont be to bad.
10-30-07, 02:50 AM
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Hey Sven a question about running the seals in.
What would u recomend for running in the 3mm 1 piece seals in a Turbo engine. The engine might go straight in a engine dyno. With normal steel seals i would run the engine for about 1500 miles before we started dynoing the engine. But since i wont put the engine in the car again before spring, and im planing on having the engine dynoed in february. What would u recomend? We where thinking about strapping it on the dyno and have it rev up and down the range for 6 hours with alittle load on it. Nothing so it would boost but.
JT
What would u recomend for running in the 3mm 1 piece seals in a Turbo engine. The engine might go straight in a engine dyno. With normal steel seals i would run the engine for about 1500 miles before we started dynoing the engine. But since i wont put the engine in the car again before spring, and im planing on having the engine dynoed in february. What would u recomend? We where thinking about strapping it on the dyno and have it rev up and down the range for 6 hours with alittle load on it. Nothing so it would boost but.
JT
10-31-07, 04:31 PM
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Lol, I missed an incredible bitchfest, sorry guys, I have been away for a while.
Glassman, if I used your seals and managed to break one and itwent loose, I know that the motor is gonna be shot, but 2 things I would realize right away would be.
1) It was my fault, not the seals fault.
2) If I was dumb enough to push something that far, I would already have accepted the fact that the motor was eventually gonna blow.
Keep up the good work man, can't wait to buy some seals from you, just gotta blow my motor first.
Glassman, if I used your seals and managed to break one and itwent loose, I know that the motor is gonna be shot, but 2 things I would realize right away would be.
1) It was my fault, not the seals fault.
2) If I was dumb enough to push something that far, I would already have accepted the fact that the motor was eventually gonna blow.
Keep up the good work man, can't wait to buy some seals from you, just gotta blow my motor first.
11-01-07, 08:57 AM
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Man i though everyone hated me cause i was a piston guy now
Wow!!! I should check what is going on more often. For the record I never ever said do not use ceramic seals. And ecspecially never bashed the NRS brand as i happen know they do work in high hp applications along with some other seals that i have had good luck with like the Super Seal from Kenny Mercado. I would feel comfortable using either one of these in a race car or street car if i was tuning it.
What i do usually preach to people is get your tune close first, then try a ceramic seal that way if you do make a mistake it wont be to bad.
Wow!!! I should check what is going on more often. For the record I never ever said do not use ceramic seals. And ecspecially never bashed the NRS brand as i happen know they do work in high hp applications along with some other seals that i have had good luck with like the Super Seal from Kenny Mercado. I would feel comfortable using either one of these in a race car or street car if i was tuning it.
What i do usually preach to people is get your tune close first, then try a ceramic seal that way if you do make a mistake it wont be to bad.
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11-02-07, 01:15 AM
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Hey Dee, sorry you got dragged into this. Funny thing is I thought ErnieT was talking about someone else. We sold some seals to a Demetrios in Greece and that's who I thought he was talking about. No wonder it didn't make any sense to me.
I was looking forward to you trying my seals like we talked about before the engine platform change but either way I wish you the best as always
I was looking forward to you trying my seals like we talked about before the engine platform change but either way I wish you the best as always
11-02-07, 11:10 AM
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Hey Dee, sorry you got dragged into this. Funny thing is I thought ErnieT was talking about someone else. We sold some seals to a Demetrios in Greece and that's who I thought he was talking about. No wonder it didn't make any sense to me.
I was looking forward to you trying my seals like we talked about before the engine platform change but either way I wish you the best as always
I was looking forward to you trying my seals like we talked about before the engine platform change but either way I wish you the best as always
I just couldn't resist!.
11-09-07, 09:33 AM
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I can already see these ceramic corner seals being a major improvement over stockers in terms of side plate wear. Glassman, any future plans for side seals? The next step then would be to find a way to reduce the side plate wear from the oil control rings. The days of rotary's lasting 500k are certainly a possibility.
I've thought about oil seals in ceramic and I'll be looking at that too. It all depends if they will be cost effective enough.
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11-09-07, 09:57 AM
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First 3mm ceramic corner seal test bed established
I am happy to report that we have come to an agreement with Enzo Racing to be the first to test the 3mm ceramic corner seals. Enzo will also be testing our 2pc 3mm apex seals in the same engine. The goal will be to put 50 psi to them both but we will likely progress to that point in increments.
I still have QC to do on the corner seals so they will be ready within 2 weeks time or less.
Likely Gaby will be the second test bed for the corner seals. He too will be testing NRS 2pc 3mm apex seals in the same engine.
I still have QC to do on the corner seals so they will be ready within 2 weeks time or less.
Likely Gaby will be the second test bed for the corner seals. He too will be testing NRS 2pc 3mm apex seals in the same engine.
11-09-07, 05:17 PM
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Glassman can you get someone to test your selas and corner seals using C16 and pump gas? 50psi will be most likely with alcohol. So the engine internally wont be as hot as to alot of other guys running c16 and pump gas at high boost levels. (28+ psi)
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11-12-07, 10:55 AM
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11-30-07, 09:47 AM
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Your company needs to hook up with Mazda as a mass production supplier. These products of yours mass produced for Mazda's stock rotary vehicles would bring the cost down for average consumers in the aftermarket. Plus Mazda would really benefit from the longer term reliability and improve the engines reputation. Sounds like a win win situation for your company, the rotary, and Mazda.
Glassman ... good to see more updates ... ceramic rotors anyone? lol Seriously glassman with your resources I would build an all ceramic engine. (Housings, sideplate, the lot)
