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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 07:34 PM
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looking for stage 3 engine

hey i was wondering if anyone had links around the internet to places where i can find stage 3 13b rotary engines.. either that or a streetported.. i'm getting rid of the stock so i'm looking for a new one.. please help if anyone knows anything! thanks!
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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 09:42 PM
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pettit racing or mazcare in florida

gotham racing in texas

never get one from rx7store. they don't last and are built like crap.
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Old Nov 15, 2005 | 07:03 PM
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i have onr for sale but is 13b carb let me know if youe interrested it runs 11.583 in a quarter with blad tires the motors needs a turbo 2 tranny and your good call me if interested 813-628=0695
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Old Nov 15, 2005 | 07:19 PM
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Lol.
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 01:24 AM
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wtf is a "stage 3" engine?

care to tell us what mods you want? year and model? 13b's are not all the same you know.
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 02:02 PM
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I was thinking the same thing. I think it's a RX7store thing.
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by alberto_mg
pettit racing or mazcare in florida

gotham racing in texas

never get one from rx7store. they don't last and are built like crap.

Lets see, we have built 48 engines this year. Three of them have come back and covered under warranty with no cost to the customer. Two of them were spun bearings which could have been the customers fault, but we covered them anyway.

How many engines has Zero R built? Probably none.

Our staged motors are based on size of the porting.
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 02:41 PM
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How many engines has Zero R built? Probably none.
*edit* Your not worth it, whatever yeah yer right not one* We do quality, not quantity, you can have the mail order crap. I do about one a week this time of year. About double that during the summer months.

Have fun talking smack, I gotta go back to installing stereo's, LOL.

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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 02:45 PM
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I figured you guys would do more than that. I also do about one per week, sometimes 2. The most I have ever done was 11 in one month and it nearly killed me.
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 02:47 PM
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I figured you guys would do more than that. I also do about one per week, sometimes 2. The most I have ever done was 11 in one month and it nearly killed me.
Idon't like taking on more than I can handle, I would rather keep things consistant than worry only about the $$.
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 02:50 PM
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That's why I won't even hire any help. I take on whatever I can do myself and no more, because I am responsible for everything that goes through here. People pay for me (or whoever runs the shop in question) to do the work, not for some dude off the street with 2 weeks training to do it. No one you ever hire will care as much about the work as you personally, I have found.
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 02:56 PM
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I wish another shop had taken that attitude.
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 03:00 PM
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Sean you argue with every shop owner on this forum. We have never called you for engine questions and the only time we ever called Rob was to findout where our engines were 2 years ago. I would also bet a lot of money you dont build an engine a week especially with this policy https://www.rx7club.com/spec-tuning-154/engines-478883/ , but hey if it works then go with it.

Even though I somewhat agree with not warranting an engine unless I tune it, we would never sell an engine with that policy or only sell to local customers.
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 03:16 PM
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I argue(defend myself) with you when you attack me personally which you do often, same goes for kahn. Other than that I have no reason to argue with anybody. I have four 20b's in shop right now being built. Two for one customer we are building a full chassis FD for. I don't try and sell a ton of motors. I don't even try and sell to some locals, if I feel the person is going to be stupid with the car, I don't care to have him blame me or my shop for his idiocy. My policy does work it allows for quality control. In the end it also assures less headaches for my customers.
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 03:28 PM
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Customers just want to know that you will back up your work if there is a problem. Alberto_mg is pissed at me because I wont rebuild his engine for free, even though he is not the original owner and warranties dont transfer. If it was the original owner we would have no problem looking at it and rebuilding if it was a problem on our end.

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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 04:33 PM
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that's funny....somehow, my name alway appeared on your post eventhough you can't even spell it right and I haven't post anything for almost two weeks. Maybe if you would stop posting on other vendors thread and talk/trash their products, vendors wouldn't be attacking you. What goes around comes around.



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I argue(defend myself) with you when you attack me personally which you do often, same goes for kahn. Other than that I have no reason to argue with anybody. I have four 20b's in shop right now being built. Two for one customer we are building a full chassis FD for. I don't try and sell a ton of motors. I don't even try and sell to some locals, if I feel the person is going to be stupid with the car, I don't care to have him blame me or my shop for his idiocy. My policy does work it allows for quality control. In the end it also assures less headaches for my customers.
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 04:42 PM
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that's funny....somehow, my name alway appeared on your post eventhough you can't even spell it right and I haven't post anything for almost two weeks. Maybe if you would stop posting on other vendors thread and talk/trash their products, vendors wouldn't be attacking you. What goes around comes around.
I'll be calling you within the next few days to setup another tuning session.
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 05:41 PM
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that's funny....somehow, my name alway appeared on your post eventhough you can't even spell it right and I haven't post anything for almost two weeks. Maybe if you would stop posting on other vendors thread and talk/trash their products, vendors wouldn't be attacking you. What goes around comes around.
Maybe I choose not to spell it right And whos thread is this? I only jump in someones thread if they are talking about my product directly in their thread, and are basically not saying it like it is. Have I jumped in your recent thread lately even though it is obvious to some who it's directed at? No. Why? Think about it. My problem with you is you **** talk to others customers to make yourself look better. Numerous other vendors have said to me they have had the same problem with you. Thing is I don't care how good or bad you are. I worry about me and my shop. But you have to be pretty stupid to think what you say doesn't come back to those people. So I suggest you listen to yourself with your wisdom.

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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 09:35 PM
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Customers just want to know that you will back up your work if there is a problem. Alberto_mg is pissed at me because I wont rebuild his engine for free, even though he is not the original owner and warranties dont transfer. If it was the original owner we would have no problem looking at it and rebuilding if it was a problem on our end.

Jason

Actually warranties do transfer. Look it up. You always seem to find creative reasons to not cover an engine. Plus I don't agree with your definition of warranty. Making people pay you a second time to build a motor that was built poorly to begin with is a rather strange defintion of "warranty".

I "pissed at" you b/c you blew me off. The minute a problem arose, you stop returning phone calls, emails etc.

As far as I'm concerned your motors are sub-par, your shop has little experience building reliable powerful motors, your service absolutely sucks and your tuning ability is worse. I wouldn't be surprised if there were more than your 3 you warrantied and the 4-5 that I personally know of that are not holding up.

You've lost a lot of customers due to your poor service and bad attitude. Of all the vendors on here, I see more legitimate complaints about you guys than anyone else.

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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 09:40 PM
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I dont know of a shop anywhere, including myself, that transfers warranties to subsequent owners other than the original purchaser. Not only in rotaries, but in a jasper 350 or anything else. Even autozone won't do it for a replacement alternator. It is industry STANDARD not to transfer warranties on mechanical parts to other vehicles or owners.

The reasoning behind that is that the man who bought it has a vested interest in maintaining it, because he paid for it. IF you buy a car with it already installed, you get a discount per se...the value of the car remains about the same, and the engine is just a bonus. And that person is far less likely to take care of it. For one, they didnt pay for the engine. For 2, they didnt go through the hardship of having to install it and tune it.

IF your only bitch is that rx7store wouldn't "jump" when you said 'hop" then I'm sorry but you dont have a leg to stand on. IF you can find a legitimate workmanship problem inside the engine then that might be another story.
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by alberto_mg
Actually warranties do transfer. Look it up. You always seem to find creative reasons to not cover an engine. Plus I don't agree with your definition of warranty. Making people pay you a second time to build a motor that was built poorly to begin with is a rather strange defintion of "warranty".

I "pissed at" you b/c you blew me off. The minute a problem arose, you stop returning phone calls, emails etc.

As far as I'm concerned your motors are sub-par, your shop has little experience building reliable powerful motors, your service absolutely sucks and your tuning ability is worse. I wouldn't be surprised if there were more than your 3 you warrantied and the 4-5 that I personally know of that are not holding up.

You've lost a lot of customers due to your poor service and bad attitude. Of all the vendors on here, I see more legitimate complaints about you guys than anyone else.
First off you never paid for the first engine. That so called poorly built engine was running fine until you bought the car. I responded to your emails, but my responsiblity is to the orginal owner, not yourself.
As far as Im concerned your opinion about my shop means nothing and has not affected my business in any way. I have more business right now than I know what to do with. The reason I have been in business this long is because of my customer base and the service we provide. I have also learned you cant please everyone.
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Old Nov 17, 2005 | 10:22 AM
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Maybe I choose not to spell it right And whos thread is this? I only jump in someones thread if they are talking about my product directly in their thread, and are basically not saying it like it is. Have I jumped in your recent thread lately even though it is obvious to some who it's directed at?

This thread certainly wasn't yours. Besides, you started this with jason from a few replies back and also try to include me in it as well. sure sounds like you're the instigator to me just like all the other threads that you somehow end up arguing about. I choose not to post much in here anymore. If customers wanted to get a hold of me, they know the number to call. People like you is the reason why so many good technical informations were kept secrets. You can go ahead and post your believes/lies all you want to the public(eventhough i know they're wrong information anyways). I'm tired of arguing with you and could spend my time elsewhere.


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No. Why? Think about it. My problem with you is you **** talk to others customers to make yourself look better.

That's funny, (your customers) are the ones that always asked me about you guys and my opinions of you. Doesn't sound like I initiate the conversation by saying A-spec is this and that. Besides, I hear more compliants about you guys in Chicago than any other states. Where are your local customer support?

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Numerous other vendors have said to me they have had the same problem with you. Thing is I don't care how good or bad you are.

Really? I heard the same from other vendors about you guys. Kinda ironic?


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I worry about me and my shop. But you have to be pretty stupid to think what you say doesn't come back to those people. So I suggest you listen to yourself with your wisdom.

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If you do worry about you and your shop, maybe you should stop spending your time in here and spend more time on working on cars and customer service instead of arguing with other vendors.

This is my last post in this thread so I know you're gonna reply just to make yourself look good. Go knock yourself out.
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Old Nov 17, 2005 | 11:06 AM
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OK, now im sick and tired of reading tons of posts about bashing each other.. Why not make a new rule here on the club... "If you dont have something good so say about someone, dont say anything." This is mostly ment to the above parties.
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