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Old 02-20-20, 07:47 PM
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Does anyone know if Careless is still making these kits? I sent him a PM last week and still have not heard back from him.

Does anyone have a phone number or email address for him?
I sent you an email 5 days ago to the address you gave me with a detailed set of points regarding requirements for the kit. Please check your junk mail folder.

RE: everyone else who contacted me; I will be getting back to everyone else showing interested in the kit; I will be doing another run since I am pretty much out of everything to put the kit together, so I may start taking down-payments to help with the production costs again. My cost on materials and some misc items has gone up since January 1, 2020; so I won't be able to offer it at the $1600USD+shipping any longer, but it won't be too much more if I can put together a larger bulk order of parts to bring overall cost down again.

Even with a slight price increase, it is still the highest quality and best kit available for the price.
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Shot you a DM with my email addy. Looking forward to getting this kit!
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Old 03-14-20, 08:49 PM
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Thanks for the interest, friends. All messages replied to up until this post;

I am indeed proceeding with a next production run; though it will require a bit more patience due to global concerns at this time.
In the meantime, anyone interested in any information regarding setup and installation can still contact me here via PM.

Thanks again for all your interest and patience.
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CD009 Adapter to 20B

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I’m keen to acquire your conversion kit to use the Nissan 350Z CD009 gearbox in my FD, which I am in the process of adding a 20B engine to. Can you let me have a shipping cost to West Midlands UK please and total shipped cost for the kit and packaging plus estimated delivery date?
Can you let me have an order form too?
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Old 05-23-20, 08:44 AM
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Does anyone know if an alternative gear ratio is available for the CD009 trans? Something numerically lower than the stock 0.794?
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Originally Posted by gracer7-rx7
Does anyone know if an alternative gear ratio is available for the CD009 trans? Something numerically lower than the stock 0.794?
Can't really see a problem with that if you have 3.9 different gears so you can actually use 1st?
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Get the Diff and Gearbox

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Can't really see a problem with that if you have 3.9 different gears so you can actually use 1st?
I agree. I’m going this drivetrain route, appears to be ideal set up and much better ratios For a road car compared to the FD diffs which are now becoming tired, rare and (relatively) expensive. I have bought a 370z gearbox, propshaft, diff and halfshafts from a very low mileage fire salvage car. Research shows they take a fair amount of power in track cars so I should be ok for my road car. Need an adapter for the 20B and will probably adapt Nissan half shafts initially, they aren’t the strongest I’m told so I will go for custom ones in time but the priority now is installing the diff. I’m in the UK so a lot of options I read about on here are expensive to source with import duty and shipping added so it’s progress but slow progress.
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Originally Posted by gracer7-rx7
Does anyone know if an alternative gear ratio is available for the CD009 trans? Something numerically lower than the stock 0.794?

99.9% sure the answer to your question is “no” short of having a pair custom made
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^Yeah, that seems to be the case..

The point of a lower than 0.794 6th gear is so that cruising RPM isn't higher than the stock FD's 0.719. I'd like to run lower RPM when cruising at 80 than higher RPM with the Z's 0.794.

If I'm misunderstanding this, someone please correct me.
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I came up with 0.754 for the 3.909 to equal the FD3 0.719/4.10 combo

with the 0.794 that’s about 5.3% higher revs; 4,000 rpm vs 4,211 rpm for a basic reference point

the other way to look at is a differential change; 8.8 etc., you’d need a 3.713 rear gear to get there

which the 370Z had a 3.692, with that 3.794 1st gear though maybe the diff swap makes more sense to perhaps have an even lower r&p?

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When I do a Ford 8.8 I'll either get a 3.73 or a 3.91 to help bring the cruise RPM down and make some more use of 1st gear.
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yeah so with a 3.73:

the 3.794 1st gear effectively becomes the equivalent of a 3.452 1st gear compared to the OE 3.483 1st gear with a 4.10 rear gear ... so pretty close

4000 rpm with the 0.719/4.10 OE cruise gearing effectively would be 4019 rpm with the 0.794/3.73 combo ... again pretty close


with a strong modern turbo though (BW EFR type), a 3.55 might be considered

1st gear would drop down to an equivalent 3.259 ratio, making it less likely to light up the tires (well more manageable maybe ) while loading against the turbo more readily

4000 rpm cruise with the OE 0.719/4.10 combo would instead be 3824 rpm with the 0.794/3.55 combo ... all else being equal (tire dia).

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So that comparison was for the 4.10 OE manual ratio, but since you were running the 3.909 OE AT ratio

comparing 1st gear with the 3.909 ratio yields an equivalent 3.163 ratio, so slightly steeper than the Nissan 1st gear and 3.55 ratio

4000 rpm cruise with the 0.719/3.909 combo would be 4012 rpm on the 0.794/3.55 combo so pretty close there


which there’s also a 3.45 ratio for the 8.8, so for this comparison:

1st gear on the Nissan 3.45 rear gear results in an effective 3.074 ratio, so slightly steeper than the 3.909 AT ratio was

and 4000 rpm cruise with the 0.719/3.909 OE combo would be 3899 rpm on the 0.794/3.45combo, so slightly steeper there too

so a 3.45 might be considered, there’s also a 3.31 and 3.23 ratio out there somewhere too


so with a wide powerband turbo setup you could maybe argue that 6 speed trans might not really be needed, or go steep on the rear gear to either get the cruise rpms down or have a crazy top end speed, or go big on the turbo or choose a lower cost/less responsive one and use the gears to stay in a narrower powerband assuming the trans will handle it.

or just not even use all the gears. When I owned a Z06 a long time ago my usual street driving mode was 2nd-4th-6th.

lots of flavors to choose from
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I have been watching this thread closely and I am very interested to see any FD installs that are out there. I'm curious how to get a "corrected" signal to the speedometer? I suppose you could replace gauges and use a GPS perhaps (ala Speedhut).
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Hi,
I’m keen to acquire your conversion kit to use the Nissan 350Z CD009 gearbox in my JC Cosmo, Can you let me have a shipping cost to Victoria Australia 3885 please and total shipped cost for the kit and packaging plus estimated delivery date?

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Originally Posted by Careless
Thanks for the interest, friends. All messages replied to up until this post;

I am indeed proceeding with a next production run; though it will require a bit more patience due to global concerns at this time.
In the meantime, anyone interested in any information regarding setup and installation can still contact me here via PM.

Thanks again for all your interest and patience.
Hey mate i tried to PM you but wouldnt work would you have an email address
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Im very interested in a kit as well and will msg as soon as it lets me send a pm lol
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Carless i was curious if you would be interested in helping me design an adapter to mate a mazda klde to a cd009. If you have any interest please email me at matthewomiotek89@gmail.com

I look forward to hearing from you
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Interested in this kit, are they still being made; or are there any left on previous batches?
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I ordered the kit from Careless/Raff a while back. It looks really good. I ordered a new transmission yesterday. Planning to do the swap over Christmas break. I'll be sure to provide updates during the process.

Trying to decide which clutch to go with for our 20B powered FD. Need to get that ordered ASAP...
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Originally Posted by 94RX74me
I ordered the kit from Careless/Raff a while back. It looks really good. I ordered a new transmission yesterday. Planning to do the swap over Christmas break. I'll be sure to provide updates during the process.

Trying to decide which clutch to go with for our 20B powered FD. Need to get that ordered ASAP...
I’m in the process of selecting a clutch for my 20B and will be getting the gearbox down to the workshop in the next few days for Careless’s kit to be fitted up and we’ll be doing some measurements and maybe testing a couple of clutch options so will post up in due course. Keep us updated on your progress please. The kit is exceptional and the attention to detail and quality of instructions and support is second to none.


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