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Old Apr 17, 2007 | 06:05 PM
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Yes, just use the original single inlet hole on the e-shaft rear journal as the guide to drill through the other side.

This is done in conjunction with a loop line increasing oil flow to the front which already has 2 inlets on the journal.



Remembered some other oil mods I did.

polished e-shaft journals on a lathe with 1,800 grit
replaced banjo bolt connections at engine and oil cooler with -AN couplings
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 03:23 PM
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So does anyone have a step by step PICTORIAL on how its done ?
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 01:22 PM
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 02:04 PM
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http://www.nopistons.com/forums/inde...97&hl=loopline Pictures don't pop up but you might want to contact BDC for the pics.
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 04:06 PM
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The link doesn't work , thanks anyway, I cant believe there isnt anyone on here who did thid and took pics!

"Typically, an adaptor plate is placed under the oil filter, and a braided steel line is tapped from the filtered oil. The line is run to the front iron, where the factory oil passage plug is drilled out and tapped to fit the other end of the "loop line "

Does anyone make this adaptor plate ???

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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by RICE RACING
Ummm, you have a stationary gear failure, which caused the rotor to go out of phase and the crank drove it into the rotor housing a few times causing the engine to rapidly decelerate, so quickly that the energy/inertia in the flywheel sheared the keyway !

Interesting failure

No timing glitch can casue that

Statitonary gears do and can fail.
that engine was bouncing off the factory rev limiter. at thunderhill, the gearing of the stock na fc puts the engine @ the 8200 limiter from the start finish stand to almost the entrance to turn 3. its probably a good 15-20 seconds

in the next engine, we took the limiter off (haltech) and let it run to 9400, with no problems. that engines in my garage right now, and the bearings are beat to death, but otherwise looks sound
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcel Burkett
The link doesn't work , thanks anyway, I cant believe there isnt anyone on here who did thid and took pics!

"Typically, an adaptor plate is placed under the oil filter, and a braided steel line is tapped from the filtered oil. The line is run to the front iron, where the factory oil passage plug is drilled out and tapped to fit the other end of the "loop line "

Does anyone make this adaptor plate ???

the 13B REW motors come with it stock....
the problem i see is the plug that gets drilled out in the front iron isnt that big, so how would you fit a -10 an fitting?
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 680RWHP12A
the 13B REW motors come with it stock....
the problem i see is the plug that gets drilled out in the front iron isnt that big, so how would you fit a -10 an fitting?
What does the REW motor come with stock ? an adapter ? a place to drill and tap at the oil filter pedestil ? what ?
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 02:07 PM
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Hrm, noone else has pics? Well, we've got the EProd motor out of the car anyway, I'll see if I can't snap a few tonight.

The adapters aren't hard to make; I've got a milling machine, but you really could do them with a drill press too.
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 02:18 PM
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the first pic is of the of the spot on the front steel, where they drill and tap, its pretty small tho...

the second pic is stock rew oil pedastal, the come like this, i just installed the A/N adapter fitting
Attached Thumbnails Balancing Oil pressure-oil-pics-002.jpg   Balancing Oil pressure-oil-pics-003.jpg  
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 02:26 PM
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Is that spot on the front steel blocked by the ac/power steering bracket / and in the second pic all I see is an AN fitting being used inplace of the banjo bolt and nut , isn't there supposed to be an additional connection that will allow the oil flow from the filter to the block to be tapped into ? Maybe I need to make an adapter block that will replace the oil filter pedestal all to gether and use a remote oil filter kit ?
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcel Burkett
Is that spot on the front steel blocked by the ac/power steering bracket / and in the second pic all I see is an AN fitting being used inplace of the banjo bolt and nut , isn't there supposed to be an additional connection that will allow the oil flow from the filter to the block to be tapped into ?
yes


on the car i saw the -10 A/N line went from the spot in the front steel to the A/N fitting in the pic i posted
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 03:11 PM
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So where would the return from the oil coolers go ?
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcel Burkett
So where would the return from the oil coolers go ?

good question, this guy wasnt running one
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcel Burkett
Is that spot on the front steel blocked by the ac/power steering bracket / and in the second pic all I see is an AN fitting being used inplace of the banjo bolt and nut , isn't there supposed to be an additional connection that will allow the oil flow from the filter to the block to be tapped into ? Maybe I need to make an adapter block that will replace the oil filter pedestal all to gether and use a remote oil filter kit ?
Thats what I do...
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 11:45 PM
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On the prod car, we made our own adapter going in place of the pedestal. Flow from oil cooler / remote oil filters goes into there. It's drilled on the bottom to go into the stock oil passages like the normal pedestals, and there's another drilling on the far side from the oil inlet that's T'd to the accusump and front bearing feed line.

The AN fitting adapter we have goes into the front iron with a pipe thread and yes, is signifigantly smaller than the AN fitting. 'course the internal restriction is the hole in the stationary gear, so how big does it have to be, really?
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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Kenku
On the prod car, we made our own adapter going in place of the pedestal. Flow from oil cooler / remote oil filters goes into there. It's drilled on the bottom to go into the stock oil passages like the normal pedestals, and there's another drilling on the far side from the oil inlet that's T'd to the accusump and front bearing feed line.

The AN fitting adapter we have goes into the front iron with a pipe thread and yes, is signifigantly smaller than the AN fitting. 'course the internal restriction is the hole in the stationary gear, so how big does it have to be, really?
This is what I think I need to do , have an adapter made that will fit under my oil filter pedastil with a tapped hole for a fitting or have a custom pedastil made with an extra port on the same filter outlet port going to the block.
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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 02:40 PM
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Found some pics for those interested , the adapter is from racing beat.
Attached Thumbnails Balancing Oil pressure-looplineblock.jpg   Balancing Oil pressure-looplineblock2.jpg   Balancing Oil pressure-kit.jpg  

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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 02:57 PM
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Marcel,
Those are great images BTW.
So how does the block distribute oil flow between the loop line and the oil cooler?

If I can be convinced this is worth it I'll do it also as my engine is out of the car and I have a box of leftover fittings. Is this a -8 line?
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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcel Burkett
Found some pics for those interested , the adapter is from racing beat.
That's a Pineapple Racing adaptor...and motor.
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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 05:40 PM
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That's basicially what we did for our adapter, except ours is out of a piece of round billet. The little black plugged part would be where we would feed oil into it, and the top is only used for gauges (external oil filter, again) but same idea.

The block doesn't distribute oil between the loop line and cooler; all oil going into the engine is after the oil cooler (and filter in our case)
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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by CrispyRX7
Marcel,
Those are great images BTW.
So how does the block distribute oil flow between the loop line and the oil cooler?

If I can be convinced this is worth it I'll do it also as my engine is out of the car and I have a box of leftover fittings. Is this a -8 line?
TIA
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Th e block doesn't distribute the oil , the OEM oil filter pedastil still has to be boltted to the top of it , oil flow would remain "normal" , the block just allows the outlet flow from the filter to the motor to be tapped into to supply the loop line , it also allows the use of aftermarket sensors. The line looks like a #8 , but I think that is too big , I think a #6AN line would work well , I dont see the need for a huge supply line , when the actual passage in the front iron is so small , this mod isn't meant to replace the usual oil fupply path , just to equalize the pressure with the rear , this can be accomplished by a reasonably sized line.
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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Blake
That's a Pineapple Racing adaptor...and motor.

Sorry , by bad ....so why isn't it offered for sale as a kit on your site ?
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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcel Burkett
Sorry , by bad ....so why isn't it offered for sale as a kit on your site ?
Just lazy...
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is this kit available for the REW motor ?
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