Walked a 2000 supercharghed TA..
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Originally Posted by ITS N STI
As for the power to weight argument, I know you guys like to use that as your trump card, but there are thousands of other forces at work.
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Originally Posted by rt turbo
why do these 3 from central florida always troll up our kills sections? they always call Bs on everything and they are completely 100% ignorant about our cars. This spec v guy thinks all 470rwhp camaros run 10s, and didnt even know that stock turbo modded FDs can run 10s.
They also never believe in power to weight... which is funny to me as i came from a 3800lbs dodge steath TT awd with 403awhp, to a 3100lb evo with 360awhp, and now i have a 370rwhp stock turbo FD. the stealth that had the most power and torque was by far the slowest car ive owned. the evo was near my fd in power, but guess what... my fd would rape my evo. I also had an audi S4 but it only had 275awhp so it doesnt count... but it was a pig. one of the biggest differentiators in acceleration of automobiles is power-to-weight and gearing.. Period.
after all, if they didnt mean **** than why does a 7500lb diesel truck with 450rwhp and 550ft/lbs only run 15s or maybe 14s at best? that would run 10s easy in a car. sure some have run 11s and 10s, but thats with 700+ whp and 1100+ wTQ.
They also never believe in power to weight... which is funny to me as i came from a 3800lbs dodge steath TT awd with 403awhp, to a 3100lb evo with 360awhp, and now i have a 370rwhp stock turbo FD. the stealth that had the most power and torque was by far the slowest car ive owned. the evo was near my fd in power, but guess what... my fd would rape my evo. I also had an audi S4 but it only had 275awhp so it doesnt count... but it was a pig. one of the biggest differentiators in acceleration of automobiles is power-to-weight and gearing.. Period.
after all, if they didnt mean **** than why does a 7500lb diesel truck with 450rwhp and 550ft/lbs only run 15s or maybe 14s at best? that would run 10s easy in a car. sure some have run 11s and 10s, but thats with 700+ whp and 1100+ wTQ.
I base my comments off experience, not searching goodle for "benching racing power to wheight ratio:
So sorry, for basing my comments of the real life, real deal. but your right, what do i know.
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Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
Like what? The size of the big gulp in the cupholder? The weight of the ******* of the broad in the passenger seat ?
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Originally Posted by G's 3rd Gen
That would be an utter waste of my time, but obvoiusly its more than a normal NA. I do have plenty of friends w/ turboed 7's in O-town you can stake that NA against. PM Kabooski on here. He will run you. Let us know the outcome. G
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Originally Posted by spoolin spec v
I am glad you thought that was funny, b.c. i dont think anyone else will.
please enl;ighten me as to why u would call bs? u dont think the fd in question can make up the 100rwhp difference?
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Originally Posted by spoolin spec v
Do you know the differnce a 100hp makes in a 1/4 race when talking about MPH?
How about how 100llbs of wheight affects a car?
How about how 100llbs of wheight affects a car?
but i know what u are getting at..i could answer if u would like. if u knew then u would know that 1k lbs means u need 100rwhp, GENERALLY speaking.
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Originally Posted by matty
are u quizing me? lol. grow up. the parameters of the question u asked shows just how much u know.....nothing! u would need to know the wieght of a car to identify the effect of the added 100rwhp genious. i know this 100rwhp means a ton more to a fd then an fbofy in both et and mph.
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Originally Posted by spoolin spec v
LOL you cought me. I know nothing of what i am talking about. why cant i be like the fd owners.
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Originally Posted by ITS N STI
I'd still love to race an FD in my range, whatever you guys see that as. I have 300whp and I can go from rolls if you want.
On LS1's.... I am sitting just over 300whp and although it was close, I can beat SS cameros and Ws6 TA's by about a car. NO hp/wieight isn't the whole calculation. There are many... Driver being the biggest (with the exception of a hwy roll). It sounds like this supercharged TA was maybe closer to the 430-450hp range but all the info we have is what the driver of the TA claimed...
Again G.... Good race..
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Originally Posted by spoolin spec v
Ive called bs b.c. ive sat in, drove, raced, built, and tuned one 450whp rx-7, and another 550hp rx7 So i know what they are capable of.
I base my comments off experience, not searching goodle for "benching racing power to wheight ratio:
So sorry, for basing my comments of the real life, real deal. but your right, what do i know.
I base my comments off experience, not searching goodle for "benching racing power to wheight ratio:
So sorry, for basing my comments of the real life, real deal. but your right, what do i know.
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Originally Posted by oo7arkman
I have a good respect for Sti's.... There are so many subaru's where I live it is not even funny... But ppl here actually have a good reason for driving an awd.. Anyways, my point is that I am still running stock sequential turbos at 12.5psi with suppourting mods. I MURDER STi's that are lightly modded (similar to the one you drive), and I have yet to loose to any heavily modded one as well. Another large factor you need to consider is that awd drivetrain has quite abit of power loss. If you want to race an FD and it be a good race, try and find someone with a nearly totally stock FD. Again, not bagging on the STi..I like em... But that is just the truth of the matter...
On LS1's.... I am sitting just over 300whp and although it was close, I can beat SS cameros and Ws6 TA's by about a car. NO hp/wieight isn't the whole calculation. There are many... Driver being the biggest (with the exception of a hwy roll). It sounds like this supercharged TA was maybe closer to the 430-450hp range but all the info we have is what the driver of the TA claimed...
Again G.... Good race..
On LS1's.... I am sitting just over 300whp and although it was close, I can beat SS cameros and Ws6 TA's by about a car. NO hp/wieight isn't the whole calculation. There are many... Driver being the biggest (with the exception of a hwy roll). It sounds like this supercharged TA was maybe closer to the 430-450hp range but all the info we have is what the driver of the TA claimed...
Again G.... Good race..
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Originally Posted by ITS N STI
No offense, but I think I'd slaughter a stock FD RX7
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Originally Posted by spoolin spec v
Ive called bs b.c. ive sat in, drove, raced, built, and tuned one 450whp rx-7, and another 550hp rx7 So i know what they are capable of.
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Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
I think you're full of ****.
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Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
The absolute fastest? I think a low 13. On average they do 14 flat at 100 mph. The thread starter is making 373 rwhp, he should be trapping around 117ish mph, definitely a high 11 second car.
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Originally Posted by spoolin spec v
Ive called bs b.c. ive sat in, drove, raced, built, and tuned one 450whp rx-7, and another 550hp rx7 So i know what they are capable of.
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Originally Posted by Mr rx-7 tt
Brooks trapped 11.4 @ 120 plus on 362 rwhp on a hot Florida day. The poster is making 10 rwhp more and it's much cooler which means even more power...
I don't think you'll get the answers to your engine building questions either, call me crazy