My 03 Cobra vs Goodfellafd3s 93 Rx-7 (Video)
08-09-06, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Improved FD
again, this goes back to basic physics and rolling resistance...knowledge is power, ignorance is deadly
there is no way Rich, running about 385-390 hp at 16 psi (guessing) is going to keep up with a 490 hp car from a high speed roll...again (and I keep repeating this), horsepower and aerodynamics dominate the equation as you approach triple digits, weight is much less of a factor, and there is no way the aerodynamic advantage of an FD is going to make up for a 100 hp deficit...this is a no-brainer, I could have predicted the outcome before you even turned the key
now, race from a stop and see what happens! that should be a good race, because the light weight of the FD will pay major dividends, provided Rich knows how to launch his car, and I believe he does, based on his experience at the strip
not a very fair race at all, gloating that you beat someone in a highway roll when you are up 100+ hp is dumb....Mustangs are still incredible pos, they are hideous looking, and common as dog poop....I can make a VW bus go fast, too, but who gives a ****?
run him from a dig...
there is no way Rich, running about 385-390 hp at 16 psi (guessing) is going to keep up with a 490 hp car from a high speed roll...again (and I keep repeating this), horsepower and aerodynamics dominate the equation as you approach triple digits, weight is much less of a factor, and there is no way the aerodynamic advantage of an FD is going to make up for a 100 hp deficit...this is a no-brainer, I could have predicted the outcome before you even turned the key
now, race from a stop and see what happens! that should be a good race, because the light weight of the FD will pay major dividends, provided Rich knows how to launch his car, and I believe he does, based on his experience at the strip
not a very fair race at all, gloating that you beat someone in a highway roll when you are up 100+ hp is dumb....Mustangs are still incredible pos, they are hideous looking, and common as dog poop....I can make a VW bus go fast, too, but who gives a ****?
run him from a dig...
Back when I had my non-seq turbos running 123-125mph traps i was approached by a supercharged Cobra owned by Marc (well known East Coast street racer, now has Audi S4) and wanted to race his light modded Cobra against my stock turbo FD for some cash.
We lined up heads up on drag radials and he had me by a car length in 1st gear.
2nd gear I closed the gap. 3rd gear we were dead even and 4th gear I started to pull on him. Before shifting into 5th I was 3-4 cars in front and before he cut gas he claimed to be at 160mph and I was ~170mph with a 5-6 car gap.
After the race he had someone check my turbos to confirm they were stock...the guys 1st question: where's your other turbo ?????? almost died laughing.........
This Cobra had a cold-air system, x-pipe exhaust system, supercharger pulley, re-map ECU and gears......and had run a best of 11.4 @ 122mph !!!!!!!
One mis-shift in my part and I would have lost that race by a long shot !
Those Cobra engines are built for abuse they will make over 600rwh with out any internal mods.....possibly one of the best motors built by Ford.
I've learned not to under-estimate the car next to you....damn Cobra looked stock.
JD
08-09-06, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by audiobot7
Some of you guys need to relax and stop taking things so seriously. Its the internet! 
Some people get upset when results are not as they expected...
JD
08-09-06, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Boostn7
I'm not !!!
At 12-13psi Rich has no chance in hell to hang with the Cobra.
At 15-16psi is also never gonna see 125mph traps.
Rich needs to turn up the boost and race the Cobra again:-)
JD
At 12-13psi Rich has no chance in hell to hang with the Cobra.
At 15-16psi is also never gonna see 125mph traps.
Rich needs to turn up the boost and race the Cobra again:-)
JD
the video linked on this thread is a 15-16psi run. given he made 420 @ 17.5psi, i figured he was around 400rwhp for the race. which in my mind should be equal if not faster than the 1k lbs heavier cobra.
that raises a good question though, rich why werent u running full boost knowing you're going a against 500rwhp beast?
i guess we need a rematch...get out there!
i wouldnt mind a run against those bnrs at same psi to same psi to be honest. lets have some fd vs fd cannabalism!
Last edited by matty; 08-09-06 at 06:05 PM.
08-09-06, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by coolvette
rich,get you car running right,and race him again.do a dig with both cars on street tires.
08-09-06, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Boostn7
Agree.... they're having fun and I'm sure they will go at it again.
Some people get upset when results are not as they expected...
JD
Some people get upset when results are not as they expected...
JD
quite frankly i could give two ***** if rich won or lost. i just want to have fun and discuss it. beleive me i am one to say that the fd needs alot to hang with todays power cars like cobras and z06s!
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08-09-06, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by matty
the video linked on this thread is a 15-16psi run. given he made 420 @ 17.5psi, i figured he was around 400rwhp for the race. which in my mind should be equal if not faster than the 1k lbs heavier cobra.
that raises a good question though, rich why werent u running full boost knowing you're going a against a 500rwhp beast?
that raises a good question though, rich why werent u running full boost knowing you're going a against a 500rwhp beast?
Then again, Rich claims his car was not running 100%....
Next time.......
Ihor: ever hit the scales with the Cobra?
JD
08-09-06, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Boostn7
So we both agree Rich was nowhere near ~400rwh or that Cobra is making more hp.
Then again, Rich claims his car was not running 100%....
Next time.......
Ihor: ever hit the scales with the Cobra?
JD
Then again, Rich claims his car was not running 100%....
Next time.......
Ihor: ever hit the scales with the Cobra?
JD
also, re read my post i edited it.
Last edited by matty; 08-09-06 at 06:13 PM.
08-09-06, 07:34 PM
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Who cares who and what lost.
Important thing is that both cars are fast, they both had a good time and they posted it to entertain us.
I hate it when people go PMS just when an FD loses. I can only imagine like 5 years from now when more and more cars are becoming faster in factory form keeping up with single turbo FD's and they are still under warranty with 100 miles on the odo, what are they gonna say then??
No one is ever satisfied.
Important thing is that both cars are fast, they both had a good time and they posted it to entertain us.
I hate it when people go PMS just when an FD loses. I can only imagine like 5 years from now when more and more cars are becoming faster in factory form keeping up with single turbo FD's and they are still under warranty with 100 miles on the odo, what are they gonna say then??
No one is ever satisfied.
08-09-06, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by PDViper77
You guys need to have a rematch with an actual camera man! Anyway nice cobra and kill!
08-09-06, 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
Yeah, I was speechless when I saw it. It must not have been clipped on all the way. I'll bet it was loose and then popped off on that horrible bumpy road you took me on.
Guys, ihor's car is fast as ****. I shouldn't have been racing when I knew something wasn't right with the car, and I said as much before the race. There's always next time......
Guys, ihor's car is fast as ****. I shouldn't have been racing when I knew something wasn't right with the car, and I said as much before the race. There's always next time......
08-10-06, 12:05 AM
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I don't think we're getting the full skinny
if one of the lead plug wires was truly "dangling"/disconnected, the car would hardly run....high rpm break-up I believe, spark plug wire boot not fully seated I believe....but not "dangling"
if one of the lead plug wires was truly "dangling"/disconnected, the car would hardly run....high rpm break-up I believe, spark plug wire boot not fully seated I believe....but not "dangling"
08-10-06, 01:36 AM
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I was wondering is there any FD at your hrosepower range around NJ? It would be a good race if you race an FD with the same power. If you can't find anybody there I surely can make one if you want to come to Kansas? Money=horsepower right?
08-10-06, 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by jamespond24
I was wondering is there any FD at your hrosepower range around NJ? It would be a good race if you race an FD with the same power. If you can't find anybody there I surely can make one if you want to come to Kansas? Money=horsepower right?
i think i am just gonna watch today folks. pretty cranky.
08-10-06, 08:07 AM
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It was one of the top plug wires, so trailing. Even after making sure that bastard was securely fastened, the damn car still isn't running right. Right at about 7k rpms it stops making power, so I have to upshift, which drops me out of my powerband. If I try and accelerate through it, it feels kind of 'lumpy,' not cutting out or anything but it just stops accelerating. AFRs are in the high 10s, so I don't think that's it. EGTs and Fuel px look fine too. Very frustrating.