I killed a Z06!!!!
04-12-07, 08:57 PM
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New Rule... From now on anytime a Z06 is mentioned, the year of the vette mentioned must be clearly stated to prevent WWIII from happening in the kills section. Obviously there is a BIG difference between the C6 Z06 and previous models.
That being said though, an FD that is still on the twins can definitely beat an older model Z06 in a roll race
That being said though, an FD that is still on the twins can definitely beat an older model Z06 in a roll race
04-12-07, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 10thAEWHiteHeat
New Rule... From now on anytime a Z06 is mentioned, the year of the vette mentioned must be clearly stated to prevent WWIII from happening in the kills section. Obviously there is a BIG difference between the C6 Z06 and previous models.
That being said though, an FD that is still on the twins can definitely beat an older model Z06 in a roll race
That being said though, an FD that is still on the twins can definitely beat an older model Z06 in a roll race
). It's just not a big deal - just another fast car (which can also be modded to spank my modded FD).-Matt
04-13-07, 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Aristo
The 01 Z06 used an LS6.
No. It didnt. Trust me when I say this, because I drive one. It has the LS1. The reason that it has the LS1, is because they had not yet perfected the LS6 valvetrain (which is really the only difference between the LS1 and LS6) and wanted to release it on time. This is why they have two different badges for the C5 Z06. The 2001 badge says Z06 only. The 2002-2004 Z06 badge says Z06 405 hp.
As for the explain more about the Z06 in the kill I say +Eleventy. There is a difference between 01, 02-04, and 06+ Z06's It was stated that this was a C5, but still leaves a fair amount to be determined.
But also, Id like to say, that even though I drive a 2001 Z06, I acknowledge what other cars (properly tuned) can do. There is always someone with more money, that is willing to spend it to make their car faster. Like I am currently doing with my FC, it can become a money pit, and making it faster/handle better is all that matters.
I give props to the things out there that are well tuned, and properly built. In the races that I have lost (few, yes, but it has happened) I always gave thumbs up to the guy that beat me when I caught back up to him.
Oh, and YellowR1, hows that SLK handle with just under 600 ponies?
04-13-07, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Rotary Noob
No. It didnt. Trust me when I say this, because I drive one. It has the LS1. The reason that it has the LS1, is because they had not yet perfected the LS6 valvetrain (which is really the only difference between the LS1 and LS6) and wanted to release it on time. This is why they have two different badges for the C5 Z06. The 2001 badge says Z06 only. The 2002-2004 Z06 badge says Z06 405 hp.
As for the explain more about the Z06 in the kill I say +Eleventy. There is a difference between 01, 02-04, and 06+ Z06's It was stated that this was a C5, but still leaves a fair amount to be determined.
But also, Id like to say, that even though I drive a 2001 Z06, I acknowledge what other cars (properly tuned) can do. There is always someone with more money, that is willing to spend it to make their car faster. Like I am currently doing with my FC, it can become a money pit, and making it faster/handle better is all that matters.
I give props to the things out there that are well tuned, and properly built. In the races that I have lost (few, yes, but it has happened) I always gave thumbs up to the guy that beat me when I caught back up to him.
Oh, and YellowR1, hows that SLK handle with just under 600 ponies?
As for the explain more about the Z06 in the kill I say +Eleventy. There is a difference between 01, 02-04, and 06+ Z06's It was stated that this was a C5, but still leaves a fair amount to be determined.
But also, Id like to say, that even though I drive a 2001 Z06, I acknowledge what other cars (properly tuned) can do. There is always someone with more money, that is willing to spend it to make their car faster. Like I am currently doing with my FC, it can become a money pit, and making it faster/handle better is all that matters.
I give props to the things out there that are well tuned, and properly built. In the races that I have lost (few, yes, but it has happened) I always gave thumbs up to the guy that beat me when I caught back up to him.
Oh, and YellowR1, hows that SLK handle with just under 600 ponies?
The SLK handles very well (still weighs the same as stock....3,400 lbs). It drives much differently than our RX-7 (512 rwtq @ 2,000 rpm) so it just GOES if it feels any peddle pressure. Here is a write up on the car if you are bored. Here is a link to a local Mercedes meet last Summer (the red SLK is the pic of the wife's Kleemann). Have a good weekend Gang. http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/...n_slk55ks8.asp
http://www.treynor.com/Carlab/
-Matt
04-13-07, 10:25 AM
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I call for a vote of no confidence in the original poster.. ls1 beating another chevy piston banger isnt the same as a rotary doing it....thread topic misleading =/
04-13-07, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by adam c
A FD with stock twins can easily beat a stock Z06 "IF" it is set up properly. An FD only needs about 300 rwhp to run even with a 405 (engine) hp Z06. There are plenty of people with stock twins running well over 300 rwhp.
Anyone thinking otherwise is misinformed, or just plain stupid.
I have raced a 298 rwhp FD, and a stock 02 Z06. They both beat me. The FD was faster than the Z06.
Anyone thinking otherwise is misinformed, or just plain stupid.
I have raced a 298 rwhp FD, and a stock 02 Z06. They both beat me. The FD was faster than the Z06.
04-13-07, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Yellow R1
It can also pull a C6 ZO6 (a properly tuned ~370 rwhp+ stock twin car). I've done it (3 times in 1 night in fact with my 405 rwhp CYM ). It's just not a big deal - just another fast car (which can also be modded to spank my modded FD).
-Matt
). It's just not a big deal - just another fast car (which can also be modded to spank my modded FD).-Matt
04-13-07, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by cool_as_crap
huh....didn't even know you could get 370rwhp out of stock twins...
-Matt
04-13-07, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by cool_as_crap
LOLOLOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 
good one chief
good one chief
btw anyone who uses the word chief when addressing someone is a real ******* ******* in my book.
04-13-07, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ariha
I call major bullshit about your post.... a 2002 Z06 can run 12.5 stock.... the FD twin turbo cannot run 12.5 stock... according to stock 1/3 mile times it will run 13.5 under optimal conditions...
easily? i dont think so, replace that with never...... a z06 would toss your cookies... you might be able to hang with a stock corvette....
easily? i dont think so, replace that with never...... a z06 would toss your cookies... you might be able to hang with a stock corvette....
04-13-07, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Rotary Noob
No. It didn't. Trust me when I say this, because I drive one. It has the LS1. The reason that it has the LS1, is because they had not yet perfected the LS6 valve train (which is really the only difference between the LS1 and LS6) and wanted to release it on time. This is why they have two different badges for the C5 Z06. The 2001 badge says Z06 only. The 2002-2004 Z06 badge says Z06 405 hp.
The 2001 z06 has a LS6 motor.
http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/...06/ls1ls6.html
In 2002 it got 405 hp rating because the cam went to a higher lift of .550.
Originally Posted by Rotary Noob
I would still say to upgrade to the MSD coils, you can adjust the timing a little bit, and gives you the ability to fine tune your timing
http://www.ls1tech.com/usa/showthread.php?t=693989
And what the heck are you talking about with "fine tune your timing"? You change your timing via LS1edit or HPTuners (or a few other tuning software programs).
04-13-07, 01:58 PM
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Dude, you really should get the facts about your car straight. Whoever told you, be it your mechanic or dad, that the 01s had an LS1, is wrong. The 2001 Z06 marked the first year of the LS6, and had a different block with larger apertures at the cylinder bottoms, along with the upgraded valvetrain. The later LS1s eventually used the LS6 block.
I had an 02 Z06 in my garage for about a year, as a friend left it with me, and I got a lof of time at the wheel, and I can tell you that my stock twins car at 14psi would walk it pretty well (about 4 cars by 120 mph). Even my old FD, running M2's old stage 3 package at only 13psi would stay even with an 03 with Halltech intake and Borla stingers (and, granted, a fat passenger)
I had an 02 Z06 in my garage for about a year, as a friend left it with me, and I got a lof of time at the wheel, and I can tell you that my stock twins car at 14psi would walk it pretty well (about 4 cars by 120 mph). Even my old FD, running M2's old stage 3 package at only 13psi would stay even with an 03 with Halltech intake and Borla stingers (and, granted, a fat passenger)
Originally Posted by Rotary Noob
No. It didnt. Trust me when I say this, because I drive one. It has the LS1. The reason that it has the LS1, is because they had not yet perfected the LS6 valvetrain (which is really the only difference between the LS1 and LS6) and wanted to release it on time. This is why they have two different badges for the C5 Z06. The 2001 badge says Z06 only. The 2002-2004 Z06 badge says Z06 405 hp.
As for the explain more about the Z06 in the kill I say +Eleventy. There is a difference between 01, 02-04, and 06+ Z06's It was stated that this was a C5, but still leaves a fair amount to be determined.
But also, Id like to say, that even though I drive a 2001 Z06, I acknowledge what other cars (properly tuned) can do. There is always someone with more money, that is willing to spend it to make their car faster. Like I am currently doing with my FC, it can become a money pit, and making it faster/handle better is all that matters.
I give props to the things out there that are well tuned, and properly built. In the races that I have lost (few, yes, but it has happened) I always gave thumbs up to the guy that beat me when I caught back up to him.
Oh, and YellowR1, hows that SLK handle with just under 600 ponies?
As for the explain more about the Z06 in the kill I say +Eleventy. There is a difference between 01, 02-04, and 06+ Z06's It was stated that this was a C5, but still leaves a fair amount to be determined.
But also, Id like to say, that even though I drive a 2001 Z06, I acknowledge what other cars (properly tuned) can do. There is always someone with more money, that is willing to spend it to make their car faster. Like I am currently doing with my FC, it can become a money pit, and making it faster/handle better is all that matters.
I give props to the things out there that are well tuned, and properly built. In the races that I have lost (few, yes, but it has happened) I always gave thumbs up to the guy that beat me when I caught back up to him.
Oh, and YellowR1, hows that SLK handle with just under 600 ponies?
04-13-07, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 2MCHPWR
you are a complete idiot. change your username to Automotive Noob, or Fact Noob.
The 2001 z06 has a LS6 motor.
http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/...06/ls1ls6.html
In 2002 it got 405 hp rating because the cam went to a higher lift of .550.
MSD coils are not needed until you are about 600 hp. My friend, and many use the stock coils for low 10's. stock bottom end over 500 rwhp going 10.4:
http://www.ls1tech.com/usa/showthread.php?t=693989
And what the heck are you talking about with "fine tune your timing"? You change your timing via LS1edit or HPTuners (or a few other tuning software programs).
The 2001 z06 has a LS6 motor.
http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/...06/ls1ls6.html
In 2002 it got 405 hp rating because the cam went to a higher lift of .550.
MSD coils are not needed until you are about 600 hp. My friend, and many use the stock coils for low 10's. stock bottom end over 500 rwhp going 10.4:
http://www.ls1tech.com/usa/showthread.php?t=693989
And what the heck are you talking about with "fine tune your timing"? You change your timing via LS1edit or HPTuners (or a few other tuning software programs).
04-13-07, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ariha
... a 2002 Z06 can run 12.5 stock.... the FD twin turbo cannot run 12.5 stock...
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1549325
with cold air intake and DR's, 11.5.
FYI that is with awesome driver, good track, weather and all that.
04-13-07, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by matty
yeah i come on internet to lie. it makes me feel better about myself. u people are too much.
btw anyone who uses the word chief when addressing someone is a real ******* ******* in my book.
btw anyone who uses the word chief when addressing someone is a real ******* ******* in my book.
04-13-07, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by cool_as_crap
its ok, i think i know what happened. you raced a base c5 vette, told yourself it was a z06, and felt totally cool. just like when you beat that neon and pretended it was an srt4. it ok, a lot of people are insecure and delerious
04-13-07, 02:50 PM
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was he asleep?
so your telling me, a stock fd, that runs high 13's, beat a modded z06, which at the very least runs high 12's-low 13's STOCK, plus mods?
mmhmmm
either your a very good driver, or full of ****. i'll go with the later
so your telling me, a stock fd, that runs high 13's, beat a modded z06, which at the very least runs high 12's-low 13's STOCK, plus mods?
mmhmmm
either your a very good driver, or full of ****. i'll go with the later
04-13-07, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 2MCHPWR
you are a complete idiot. change your username to Automotive Noob, or Fact Noob.
The 2001 z06 has a LS6 motor.
http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/...06/ls1ls6.html
In 2002 it got 405 hp rating because the cam went to a higher lift of .550.
MSD coils are not needed until you are about 600 hp. My friend, and many use the stock coils for low 10's. stock bottom end over 500 rwhp going 10.4:
http://www.ls1tech.com/usa/showthread.php?t=693989
And what the heck are you talking about with "fine tune your timing"? You change your timing via LS1edit or HPTuners (or a few other tuning software programs).
The 2001 z06 has a LS6 motor.
http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/...06/ls1ls6.html
In 2002 it got 405 hp rating because the cam went to a higher lift of .550.
MSD coils are not needed until you are about 600 hp. My friend, and many use the stock coils for low 10's. stock bottom end over 500 rwhp going 10.4:
http://www.ls1tech.com/usa/showthread.php?t=693989
And what the heck are you talking about with "fine tune your timing"? You change your timing via LS1edit or HPTuners (or a few other tuning software programs).
Did I ever say anything that I suggested was "needed" right away? No. I only suggested them. The better parts you have, the more efficiently you run, the closer the tolerances are etc.
Since your PCM controls your spark timing, and coils, and your coils control spark, you will get a more efficient, higher output spark, from a better coil. This will have a much closer tolerance than stock, and is thus better than stock.
And Aristo, im not arguing that the Z06 Vette can or cant be beat, I know that its possible already.
Just to be an *** though, why would you use LS1 edit on an LS6? Wouldnt it then be called LS6 edit???????!!!111!!1!1111! *ahem* Im done being an ***. And I WAS joking, just to make that clear.
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04-13-07, 06:13 PM
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I remember the time I beat a Z06 in a 80 - 175 mph run....I'd have raped him but my auto tranny ECU shut down my torque converter, must have because I was only running on one rotor with a busted turbo. Or maybe it was because I'd popped a spark plug out of the leading position when I'd cross-threaded it.
But **** man....I was hanging with him real good!
But **** man....I was hanging with him real good!
04-13-07, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by cool_as_crap
was he asleep?
so your telling me, a stock fd, that runs high 13's, beat a modded z06, which at the very least runs high 12's-low 13's STOCK, plus mods?
mmhmmm
either your a very good driver, or full of ****. i'll go with the later
so your telling me, a stock fd, that runs high 13's, beat a modded z06, which at the very least runs high 12's-low 13's STOCK, plus mods?
mmhmmm
either your a very good driver, or full of ****. i'll go with the later
04-13-07, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Rotary Noob
First off, lemme say that I think its freakin great that everything that I was told/read at the Bowling Green, KY 'Vette museum is now being said to be wrong. Yeah, anyways.
Did I ever say anything that I suggested was "needed" right away? No. I only suggested them. The better parts you have, the more efficiently you run, the closer the tolerances are etc.
Since your PCM controls your spark timing, and coils, and your coils control spark, you will get a more efficient, higher output spark, from a better coil. This will have a much closer tolerance than stock, and is thus better than stock.
And Aristo, im not arguing that the Z06 Vette can or cant be beat, I know that its possible already.
Just to be an *** though, why would you use LS1 edit on an LS6? Wouldnt it then be called LS6 edit???????!!!111!!1!1111! *ahem* Im done being an ***. And I WAS joking, just to make that clear.
Did I ever say anything that I suggested was "needed" right away? No. I only suggested them. The better parts you have, the more efficiently you run, the closer the tolerances are etc.
Since your PCM controls your spark timing, and coils, and your coils control spark, you will get a more efficient, higher output spark, from a better coil. This will have a much closer tolerance than stock, and is thus better than stock.
And Aristo, im not arguing that the Z06 Vette can or cant be beat, I know that its possible already.
Just to be an *** though, why would you use LS1 edit on an LS6? Wouldnt it then be called LS6 edit???????!!!111!!1!1111! *ahem* Im done being an ***. And I WAS joking, just to make that clear.
Can I have your z06?
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Originally Posted by bajaman
I remember the time I beat a Z06 in a 80 - 175 mph run....I'd have raped him but my auto tranny ECU shut down my torque converter, must have because I was only running on one rotor with a busted turbo. Or maybe it was because I'd popped a spark plug out of the leading position when I'd cross-threaded it.
But **** man....I was hanging with him real good!
But **** man....I was hanging with him real good!
I find this story extremely hard to believe...a Z06 would smash a nearly stock FD from a high speed roll