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ariha 04-11-07 11:44 AM

I killed a Z06!!!!
 
:Kill1:

Ok, so im driving to school and is see an older body style zo6, and we kinda do the race dance.

He kinda jumped forward, and then i pointed forward, he floored it and was going, so i put it in fourth and raped his ass into next week :)

all in a days fun.

http://i18.tinypic.com/4cawcjp.jpg

lovingthefc3s 04-11-07 11:50 AM

thats an LS-1 right? how much power are you at?
-Dustin.

ariha 04-11-07 12:47 PM

id say anywhere from 345 to 400...

jic 04-11-07 12:50 PM

his ass is gonna be hurtin

Rx7TyreBurna 04-11-07 08:58 PM

Not a fan of LS1 swap, but it looks good. No air filter?

What do the Z06's come with? LS1 also?

If so, they are making near the same horsepower in a car that weighs a bit more. He was probably thinking.... wtf? hahah.

dean23 04-11-07 09:48 PM

not much an ls1 swap fan either, but i will admit, thats one of the cleanest ive seen yet... props for a good job.

Upgrayedd 04-11-07 09:55 PM

Wow finally a car that no one can call "BULLSHIT!!" to it beating a Z06. Very clean swap! Do you run a ram air intake? Most cars I see with an LS1 swap have an intake elbow angled to the side.

IndyKid 04-12-07 06:19 AM


Originally Posted by Rx7TyreBurna
Not a fan of LS1 swap, but it looks good. No air filter?

What do the Z06's come with? LS1 also?

If so, they are making near the same horsepower in a car that weighs a bit more. He was probably thinking.... wtf? hahah.

C5 z06 has an ls6 engine.

Rotary Noob 04-12-07 08:03 AM

Misinformation Misinformation!!!! Lol.

Hello again, your resident Z06 driver here. Time to straighten a couple things out, and add my two cents.

The 2001 Z06 had an LS1 in it. Pontiac Firebirds, and Camaros also had the LS1 (for the SS model and whatever the pontiac had, WS6 package I think.)

For the 2002-2005 Z06 you had your LS6. The LS1 in the '01 Z06 had 385 hp, and about the same torque wise. The LS6 pushed out 405 hp, and 395ft lbs or around there.

The weight difference is what won the race. (Note: not calling bullshit...just kinda stating the obvious) Your car with that swap is about 300 lbs or so lighter than a Z06 is, dry.

I want to call bullshit on the 400hp number, but since you havent listed what you put in the motor, I wont. I think youre probably more around 350, maybe pushing up to 360. From what I see you have 8.5mm Super Conductor MSD wires, and an underdrive pulley or two. You dont have the MSD coils (only 575 for all 8!!! Check westcoastcorvette.com, theyve got plenty of upgrades for you) or the FAST intake manifold, and I dont see anything that really jumps out at me that says "Power!!!!"

Id recommend you get a FAST ceramic intake, (30 hp, I dyno tested a camaro at school with and without one.) I would also recommend that you get the LS6 valvetrain, and forged internals. That could put you into the mid 400's, possibly into 475 range. At the same time, I also reccomend an H crossover, and 3" pipe all the way back.

Congrats on the kill, but dont let it go to your head. And quick question, what speeds were you at? Elaborate a little more in your kill next time maybe, also, did it have the 405hp badge on its fender, or just the one that says Z06? That right there will give you a better indication of what year it was.

R1988T 04-12-07 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by Rotary Noob
Misinformation Misinformation!!!! Lol.

Hello again, your resident Z06 driver here. Time to straighten a couple things out, and add my two cents.

The 2001 Z06 had an LS1 in it. Pontiac Firebirds, and Camaros also had the LS1 (for the SS model and whatever the pontiac had, WS6 package I think.)

For the 2002-2005 Z06 you had your LS6. The LS1 in the '01 Z06 had 385 hp, and about the same torque wise. The LS6 pushed out 405 hp, and 395ft lbs or around there.

The weight difference is what won the race. (Note: not calling bullshit...just kinda stating the obvious) Your car with that swap is about 300 lbs or so lighter than a Z06 is, dry.

I want to call bullshit on the 400hp number, but since you havent listed what you put in the motor, I wont. I think youre probably more around 350, maybe pushing up to 360. From what I see you have 8.5mm Super Conductor MSD wires, and an underdrive pulley or two. You dont have the MSD coils (only 575 for all 8!!! Check westcoastcorvette.com, theyve got plenty of upgrades for you) or the FAST intake manifold, and I dont see anything that really jumps out at me that says "Power!!!!"

Id recommend you get a FAST ceramic intake, (30 hp, I dyno tested a camaro at school with and without one.) I would also recommend that you get the LS6 valvetrain, and forged internals. That could put you into the mid 400's, possibly into 475 range. At the same time, I also reccomend an H crossover, and 3" pipe all the way back.

Congrats on the kill, but dont let it go to your head. And quick question, what speeds were you at? Elaborate a little more in your kill next time maybe, also, did it have the 405hp badge on its fender, or just the one that says Z06? That right there will give you a better indication of what year it was.


i think u meant 2002-2004

Rotary Noob 04-12-07 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by R1988T
i think u meant 2002-2004


Yeah, my bad. Hit the wrong number. There was no 05 Z06.

matty 04-12-07 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by mazdatim
Wow finally a car that no one can call "BULLSHIT!!" to it beating a Z06. Very clean swap! Do you run a ram air intake? Most cars I see with an LS1 swap have an intake elbow angled to the side.

u sound like a real ass in that post pal. a stock twin car thats set up CORRECTLY could easily beat a z06. i beat a modded one with my stock twin stock engine fd. wake up.

ariha 04-12-07 04:54 PM

i have a filter on it now... those were pics taken as soon as i finished... as far as the weight difference.. your right that is obvious. as for the ls6 bit it is an 02 motor doesnt mean its ls6 but it does have the block according to the casting, as well as the intake.

we also found a cts-v and toasted its cookies by about a couple cars starting at 25... because my rear end isnt too strong.

as for the z06 it was at about 45... i didnt get that close of a look at it.. i had some major traction issues...

it has 2.5 inch exhaust, everything you described, it has a cam at about .580 lift , from what ive heard the stock ignition is pretty stout up to 1000hp so ill be leaving it as is for now.. oh yeah a meizere electric water pump

i plan to go to the dyno when i have time...

ariha 04-12-07 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by matty
u sound like a real ass in that post pal. a stock twin car thats set up CORRECTLY could easily beat a z06. i beat a modded one with my stock twin stock engine fd. wake up.


I call major bullshit about your post.... a 2002 Z06 can run 12.5 stock.... the FD twin turbo cannot run 12.5 stock... according to stock 1/3 mile times it will run 13.5 under optimal conditions...


easily? i dont think so, replace that with never...... a z06 would toss your cookies... you might be able to hang with a stock corvette....

cool_as_crap 04-12-07 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by matty
u sound like a real ass in that post pal. a stock twin car thats set up CORRECTLY could easily beat a z06. i beat a modded one with my stock twin stock engine fd. wake up.

LOLOLOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

good one chief :rlaugh:

fd3s_jerry 04-12-07 05:18 PM

yeah, I gotta call bullshit on that as well. :Kill1:

Rotary Noob 04-12-07 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by ariha
i have a filter on it now... those were pics taken as soon as i finished... as far as the weight difference.. your right that is obvious. as for the ls6 bit it is an 02 motor doesnt mean its ls6 but it does have the block according to the casting, as well as the intake.

we also found a cts-v and toasted its cookies by about a couple cars starting at 25... because my rear end isnt too strong.

as for the z06 it was at about 45... i didnt get that close of a look at it.. i had some major traction issues...

it has 2.5 inch exhaust, everything you described, it has a cam at about .580 lift , from what ive heard the stock ignition is pretty stout up to 1000hp so ill be leaving it as is for now.. oh yeah a meizere electric water pump

i plan to go to the dyno when i have time...

I would still say to upgrade to the MSD coils, you can adjust the timing a little bit, and gives you the ability to fine tune your timing. At 45 he was probably in the right gear, cuz thats right out of first.

What I was saying about the LS1 and LS6 motor, was in reference to the vette. The LS1 is a solid motor regardless, but the LS6 had a different valvetrain.

The water pump was a good choice, as well as the cam. With all that in perspective, and its tuned, you might actually be on 370-380, or possibly 390-400. Sounds like a nice little set up you have there.

If you were closer, Id run you to see how quick it is in person.

Props for the good build!

As for stock twins beating a vette, I think there are a very select few people on this forum that have built up stock twins to the point where they actually beat a Z06, but I dont remember where they posted about it.

Aristo 04-12-07 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by Rotary Noob
Misinformation Misinformation!!!! Lol.

Hello again, your resident Z06 driver here. Time to straighten a couple things out, and add my two cents.

The 2001 Z06 had an LS1 in it. Pontiac Firebirds, and Camaros also had the LS1 (for the SS model and whatever the pontiac had, WS6 package I think.)

The 01 Z06 used an LS6.

Upgrayedd 04-12-07 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by matty
u sound like a real ass in that post pal. a stock twin car thats set up CORRECTLY could easily beat a z06. i beat a modded one with my stock twin stock engine fd. wake up.


I said this because I HAVE a stock twin FD that beat a Z06 and everyone called bullshit when I posted a thread in the kills section. I was merely stating that his engine being from the Corvette family does not allow haters to jump on the bullshit bandwagon.

cool_as_crap 04-12-07 06:05 PM

i dont think the z06 knew you were racing him ^ lol

Upgrayedd 04-12-07 06:24 PM

On the contrary he tried to race me several times before I gave in. Keep in mind my car is NOT stock, just stock twins =)

adam c 04-12-07 06:56 PM

A FD with stock twins can easily beat a stock Z06 "IF" it is set up properly. An FD only needs about 300 rwhp to run even with a 405 (engine) hp Z06. There are plenty of people with stock twins running well over 300 rwhp.

Anyone thinking otherwise is misinformed, or just plain stupid.

I have raced a 298 rwhp FD, and a stock 02 Z06. They both beat me. The FD was faster than the Z06.

Yellow R1 04-12-07 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by adam c
A FD with stock twins can easily beat a stock Z06 "IF" it is set up properly. An FD only needs about 300 rwhp to run even with a 405 (engine) hp Z06. There are plenty of people with stock twins running well over 300 rwhp.

Anyone thinking otherwise is misinformed, or just plain stupid.

I have raced a 298 rwhp FD, and a stock 02 Z06. They both beat me. The FD was faster than the Z06.

C5 ZO6s are pretty quick. It's the C6 ZO6s that are venomous. I also posted one of my C6 ZO6 pulls on here & a bunch of rotary neophytes called, "BS".....there's always some misinformed guys in every car forum (although it has become "endemic" on this site likely due to the low cost of entry since the FD hasn't been sold here in the US for more than a decade). Such is life ;) .

-Matt

jay3 04-12-07 08:20 PM

endemic!

evo2fd baby 04-12-07 08:39 PM

on 7 psi I stayed right on the ass of a c5 z, he couldnt pull me and he was modded. I cant imagine what would of happened on 14psi with a tune.


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