fd vs. supra
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fd vs. supra
Got a chance to race an fd last night..... well sort of race. I was turning out onto a main road when a black fd with a large exhaust went by. So I chased after him got next to him at a red light right as it was turning green. So we both took off normally he went out a little bit faster and his buddy was looking out the window ( I'm guessing looking for my front mount ). So we end up slowing down to probably 30 or so and I point forward and nod and he punches it gets the jump because I let him go first. I run out second and we are even go to hit third and miss it. We were coming up on traffic so we both u-turn. This time it's a much slower roll 15-20 and I'm actually in first. I let him go first again. I time it a little better this time so we stay pretty even on this one. I hit second and loose some traction pulling slightly, hit third and he either let off or missed a gear. I was really waiting for third because that's when I would have started walking away. Don't really know what happened I drove off and he has slowed back down to the speed limit. I'm guessing he just wasn't wanting to go 70mph+ because we were in a 45mph even though there weren't any other cars on the road. I'd really like to get in a highway run with a third gen sometime soon. My clutch is slipping pretty bad now. I'm about to upgrade and I've got a t-78 that is supposed to be here on monday. Right now I'm just BPU. Intake, full 3 inch exhaust from the dp, boost controller running 18psi, cam gears, and the front mount. Last time I dyno'd it put down 425rwhp with the clutch slipping up top and me loosing out on some power. I'm guessing the fd was probably just intake and exhaust
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I had a buddy that made 431 rwhp w/ all bolt-ons @ 20 psi ish and walked him pretty good from 30 to 140 ( 4 cars). So i am guessing the car you raced probably was running 12-13 psi on the stockers. G
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Well I figured I would beat him unless he had a single but I couldn't hear it. I was just bummed he wouldn't go into a higher gear because third gear is where the supra really starts to pull. Supras are alot better over 60. But sometimes racing from a slow roll like that is fun.
The is300 is bone stock it's just the daily but I like it pretty comfortable ride and has enough power to not be a totally boring. I do mich the loud *** rotary exhaust. When the guy I was racing last changed gears it shot out some fire out of the exhaust and I miss that about the 7.
The is300 is bone stock it's just the daily but I like it pretty comfortable ride and has enough power to not be a totally boring. I do mich the loud *** rotary exhaust. When the guy I was racing last changed gears it shot out some fire out of the exhaust and I miss that about the 7.
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You mean your buddy had a supra right? Are you saying he beat you by 4 lengths?
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The is300 is bone stock it's just the daily but I like it pretty comfortable ride and has enough power to not be a totally boring. I do mich the loud *** rotary exhaust. When the guy I was racing last changed gears it shot out some fire out of the exhaust and I miss that about the 7.
But i think now if i get one again ill keep it stock. Maybe a small drop and some tints. The car has some low end ***** to make it less boring as you said. Plus it has more room than my daily now. I hate not being able to drive my friends when i hang out.
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NO.. I beat him by 4 lengths in his Supra. Total of 3 races. All highway runs. He said it put down 431 to the ground. I am putting down 372 in the stock twins. ( I think its a bit more when actually on the street w/ good air moving through the front mount.) I have stayed even or beat slighty every single RX7 making up to a claimed 400 rwhp (total of 5 ) . I have got spanked by a t78 FD.
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NO.. I beat him by 4 lengths in his Supra. Total of 3 races. All highway runs. He said it put down 431 to the ground. I am putting down 372 in the stock twins. ( I think its a bit more when actually on the street w/ good air moving through the front mount.) I have stayed even or beat slighty every single RX7 making up to a claimed 400 rwhp (total of 5 ) . I have got spanked by a t78 FD.
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I would say it's possible if your number was a little low or you dyno'd on a hot day. You coule be closer to 380-400. The weight is the biggest thing. The supra is just so much heavier what's the weight on the fd. It's got to be at least a few hundred pounds different. Maybe you should dyno your car again or something. That must be a low number if you are beating 7's with 400rwhp. Certain dyno's put out alot lower numbers there are a few different types. What type of dyno was it?
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Exactly.. I get out in front and stay there not gaining much if at all. My original dyno tune was very hot ( july in Orlando)/ 17th pass made 364. A year later a bit cooler and put down 373. Many factors paly in the inches game. Too many to list ( weight, flywheel in moving pulls, a good ported motor for the few extra pony making high rpms, etc.) I believe weight against the supra. The guy also had a large girl in pass. seat as well. I gotta post the vid.. My buddy got some great footage in a built stang trailing. This was 3 years ago. G
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running 18 psi on that supra, gee.. =/ no wonder ur clutch is slipping, and u plan on running more boost, lol.. hope u have money for a rebuild soon, b/c if ur clutch cant handle 18 psi, idk wut ur gonna do when u try to +psi. lol.. might wanna let off the hp for a while.. and just be thankful u have a nice car.
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Has anyone here experimented with water sprayers on their FD's FMIC for a bit of free HP on hot runs? It might make up for days when it's so hot your FMIC is having a hard time keeping up.
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running 18 psi on that supra, gee.. =/ no wonder ur clutch is slipping, and u plan on running more boost, lol.. hope u have money for a rebuild soon, b/c if ur clutch cant handle 18 psi, idk wut ur gonna do when u try to +psi. lol.. might wanna let off the hp for a while.. and just be thankful u have a nice car.
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Sounds like a fun race. I only raced one Supra when I had my FD, I know it was on stock twins but not sure ho wmuch boost he was running. At the time I was ~300RWHP in my FD. Raced him many times from slower rolls, every outcome was about the same, I would get a jump, stay ahead or very close until ~120 or so, when he would just start walking on me.
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Sounds like a fun race. I only raced one Supra when I had my FD, I know it was on stock twins but not sure ho wmuch boost he was running. At the time I was ~300RWHP in my FD. Raced him many times from slower rolls, every outcome was about the same, I would get a jump, stay ahead or very close until ~120 or so, when he would just start walking on me.
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Supras are a whole different ballgame. Stock turbos stop being efficient at 18psi. But some guys run 20psi on the stock turbos they just wear out alot quicker. I honestly have never heard of anyone blowing their motor with the stock twins I don't even know if it's possible. The turbos would **** way before the motor would. There are a few guys over on supraforums putting down close to 500rwhp on the stock twins with nitrous. My clutch has been in the car for a while plus it's a oem they just really aren't made to handle 400rwhp+. T78 came in yesterday though so ***** about to get real quick.
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Yup.. I go through a set of turbos about every 10000 miles. Of course the prevoius 2 I replaced were good used ones for $200 a piece. They just begin to smoke on decel more and more bit by bit. It wouldnt be practical if I D/D the car. I will go single eventually. Focused on too much other stuff right now.
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Maty.. I mainly see it when I pull the car out of gear.. Say at at stoplight. I see a small puff of smoke. Probably happens more than I notice. Its not much at all really. I changed 2 sets of turbos 2 x now and the smoke is gone after hence the oil seal in the rear turbo is begginning to fail. G
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running 18 psi on that supra, gee.. =/ no wonder ur clutch is slipping, and u plan on running more boost, lol.. hope u have money for a rebuild soon, b/c if ur clutch cant handle 18 psi, idk wut ur gonna do when u try to +psi. lol.. might wanna let off the hp for a while.. and just be thankful u have a nice car.