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Old 12-05-04, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Pilkington
Then ask my fiancé what she thinks she's doing down there.
So she's dating you for your 944? (LOL)


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I told you I'm not here for anyone else's personal satisfaction. And FYI the 928 V8 isn't even similar to 2 944 I4's, thats a ignorance and frankly arrogant statement.
". This engine was basically half of a 928's five-liter V8. The four shared a cylinder head, valves, bore and stroke and combustion chamber shape with the big V8."


"1982: Porsche extends the range by introducing the 944 based on the 924 but featuring even wider wheel arches and a four-cylinder Porsche engine (2479 cc, 163 bhp/120 kW)- basically speaking half the 8-cylinder in the 928."

http://www.seko.ca/TN02/BHRS2.htm
"The Porsche 944 was introduced in 1982, and was a huge success. It combined the body style of the 924 Carrera GT with an engine based on one-half of the 928's V8."


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Your snap judgments are absolutely amusing. You would **** yourself if Iscanned my dyno sheet from my last 2 runs (which I absolutely refuse to,
You don't post your silly little dyno for one of a couple of reasons. It's WEAK or you don't have one. Some modified 944 isn't going to impress ANYONE here.



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I find your jealousy highly amusing.
You got me! I really wish I could afford the luxury of purchasing a 21 year old N/A 944.


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Besides that is for me and my mechanic to know, I don't need a number, my performance on the track is enough to tell that tale.)
Where do we go to get the security clearance to see that top secret 21 year old cars dyno? Your performance on the track? Sorry Earnhardt but 200 hp is much performance.

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Slightly more than a stock Turbo S? Yes. Extreme? No. But she holds her own. Why you continue is beyond me; I told everyone I am not here to listen to these pissings, nor to impress you. In fact I don't care if you don't believe me. Nay, I HOPE you fail to believe me. That empowers me.
He who angers you, owns you.
You are the one who tried to impress not me or anyone else, we just called you on it. You posted that a 944 supercharger kit would make 500 hp, it's BS and you got nailed.
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Originally Posted by Mr Pilkington
Then ask my fiancé what she thinks she's doing down there.


I told you I'm not here for anyone else's personal satisfaction. And FYI the 928 V8 isn't even similar to 2 944 I4's, thats a ignorance and frankly arrogant statement. Your snap judgments are absolutely amusing. You would **** yourself if Iscanned my dyno sheet from my last 2 runs (which I absolutely refuse to, I find your jealousy highly amusing. Besides that is for me and my mechanic to know, I don't need a number, my performance on the track is enough to tell that tale.) Slightly more than a stock Turbo S? Yes. Extreme? No. But she holds her own. Why you continue is beyond me; I told everyone I am not here to listen to these pissings, nor to impress you. In fact I don't care if you don't believe me. Nay, I HOPE you fail to believe me. That empowers me.
He who angers you, owns you.
"Nay"?...I hope you fail to believe me? ....He who angers you, ownes you". WTF is THAT?

All of the sudden, this guy has become f'ing Monty Python. Well then,....

"Hither thee to the nearest toiletry,
and readest thee of ye old Porsche pulicationry.
Emptiest your boweltry,
so your uneducated ditherings have some veracity".

F'king Leprachan. Geezuz, Mr. "I don't need a number". Well, I guess I don't either, hell....none of us do! We can all guess how how much power we "think" we might have & post it on a forum as "truth".

Hmm, no web site/URL/link, no dyno numbers (from anyone nonetheless), and RWHP numbers that make NO sense from any 944 powerplant. Ya, 500+ RWHP from a 4 banger with a blower. Err, no.

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Old 12-05-04, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr rx-7 tt
You are the one who tried to impress not me or anyone else, we just called you on it. You posted that a 944 supercharger kit would make 500 hp, it's BS and you got nailed.
I never intended to impress anyone. I came here stating a fact, you came off with some asinine assumption that I give 2 ***** for what you say. As for the other pile of kooping ****, your retorts aren?t even worth my quoting space. All I can say is grow some pubes. But since I apparently have to simplify myself to communicate within your mental capacity. I never said that a TWSC would make 500 from a stock application. You assumed my rig was stock. I'm not that stupid. Nor will I argue this fact further beyond this post. (I am quickly learning that 7 owners have absolutely no respect for any other machine, nor do they have much in the way of respect for the person. I am glad to say I sold mine, and finally happy to say I know that driver totaled that bitch.) You can quote all of the sites to within your personal needs, but its obvious you know nothing of Porsche engineering, nor do you care to learn. Its not as simple as 4+4=8. One must take into account for bore sized, compression, etc....

But no, maybe you?re right. Its absolutely impossible for an I4 to attain 500hp. Just like its impossible for an I6 to achieve 7-800 or a V8 to break 1200. That that however you desire.
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Originally Posted by Mr Pilkington
I never intended to impress anyone. I came here stating a fact,
You didn't state a fact you made up some BS and then got caught.

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you came off with some asinine assumption that I give 2 ***** for what you say.
This has nothing to do with what you think...this has to do with your fake made up hp numbers.

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As for the other pile of kooping ****, your retorts aren?t even worth my quoting space.
They aren't worth your time because you can't retort fact. Next time don't lie and you won't look like a jackass.


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All I can say is grow some pubes.
Great mature response.

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But since I apparently have to simplify myself to communicate within your mental capacity.
Actually you need to stop make up hp numbers and getting nailed on car forums. It's looks bad when others know more about the subject than yourself.

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I never said that a TWSC would make 500 from a stock application. You assumed my rig was stock. I'm not that stupid. Nor will I argue this fact further beyond this post.
Wrong again, you first posted this.

"I drive a 944 and the complete Twin-screw supercharger kit for it is only running me $5800, and will bump the RWHP in excess of 500+"

You then posted this after the smell of BS hit the forum via your post:

"Really thats a bit of an oversimplification on my part, the full kit comes with massively bumped up injectors, manifold, etc. Basically everything you will need to adapt the SC to a stock N/A. The combo brings the engine to a solid 500 @ ~6500"

Those mods will get you NOWHERE NEAR 500 hp. You LIED and then you couldn't back it up.


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(I am quickly learning that 7 owners have absolutely no respect for any other machine,nor do they have much in the way of respect for the person.
We have respect for other "machines" many here have owned or own Porsches, Ferraris etc. What we don't have respect for is those who come here and post BS. You also aren't going to get respect by attacking others with names because they disagree with you.


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I am glad to say I sold mine, and finally happy to say I know that driver totaled that bitch.)
Really? I guess you sold it between posts because you stated you drive a 944...not you used to drive.

""I drive a 944 and the complete Twin-screw supercharger kit for it is only running me $5800, and will bump the RWHP in excess of 500+"

I think I smell more BS. (LOL)


Originally Posted by Mr Pilkington
You can quote all of the sites to within your personal needs, but its obvious you know nothing of Porsche engineering, nor do you care to learn. Its not as simple as 4+4=8. One must take into account for bore sized, compression, etc....
It's obvious who doesn't know what they are talking about. I would also suggest you learn to read. What part of this didn't you understand?
"This engine was basically half of a 928's five-liter V8. The four shared a cylinder head, valves, bore and stroke and combustion chamber shape with the big V8."

BTW: My buddy races a modified 951. Last summer he spun a bearing at VIR so we replaced all the bearings and replaced the crank.


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But no, maybe you?re right. Its absolutely impossible for an I4 to attain 500hp. Just like its impossible for an I6 to achieve 7-800 or a V8 to break 1200. That that however you desire.
Nice try but you won't do it with a N/A 944 motor with a bolt on 5800 dollar supercharger kit. Comical.

You had better get off the computer as you have an 8th grade english test in the AM.

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Originally Posted by Yellow R1
"Nay"?...I hope you fail to believe me? ....He who angers you, ownes you". WTF is THAT?

All of the sudden, this guy has become f'ing Monty Python. Well then,....

"Hither thee to the nearest toiletry,
and readest thee of ye old Porsche pulicationry.
Emptiest your boweltry,
so your uneducated ditherings have some veracity".
haha, indeed, this guy is slightly wacko. All of his posts seem to have an angry, cynical, and bitter 'Im better than everyone else here, but I don't have to prove it' sort of edge to them. I'll always remember some of his better quotes from past threads...

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And to clear up the confusuion: Yes, I do hope he ides. In fact I hope its slow and extraordinarily painful.
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See people, this is why we need a mass Gene pool cleansing. If your not educated enough to understand that joke you should just cut off your own ***** with a weed-whacker and sue for 70 million dollars.

Originally Posted by Yellow R1
F'king Leprachan. Geezuz, Mr. "I don't need a number". Well, I guess I don't either, hell....none of us do! We can all guess how how much power we "think" we might have & post it on a forum as "truth".

Hmm, no web site/URL/link, no dyno numbers (from anyone nonetheless), and RWHP numbers that make NO sense from any 944 powerplant. Ya, 500+ RWHP from a 4 banger with a blower. Err, no.

-Matt
Making up elaborate stories, stretching the truth to fit that story, and everyone pulling misinformation wrapped as facts out of their asses...I thought that's what the kills forum was all about? Take this for example:

Originally Posted by Mr Pilkington
Your snap judgments are absolutely amusing. You would **** yourself if Iscanned my dyno sheet from my last 2 runs (which I absolutely refuse to, I find your jealousy highly amusing. Besides that is for me and my mechanic to know, I don't need a number, my performance on the track is enough to tell that tale.)
He sounds like a 5 year old trying to argue something he knows he can't prove:
"Yeah, I have all the proof I need right here in my hands...and I COULD scan it in...but I won't because [insert lame excuse that makes no sense but provides a convenient reason not to post the scans and evidence that actually support his claims here]"

Seriously, anyone that believes this guy, please, don't hesitate to speak up now. Hello...? Anyone...?! It also seems quite contradictory when you read the post he wrote right before that pathetic attempt at an excuse:

Originally Posted by Mr Pilkington
We'll just cut out the bullshit here. I'll get the mod and post my PERSONAL dyno runs. Will that make you picky *** people happy?
Make up your mind, kiddo! Or are you just trying to buy some time while you search for some dyno sheets on google to pass off as your own?

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Old 12-06-04, 12:06 PM
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Say "hi" to the n/a as she stands today:


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GGGGGG----yyeaahhhhhhh
Plan 9 has this Pilkington Player Pegged

This guy gets off on Pissing people off, serious check out under his name it reads "are U pissed off Yet?"
and I hate to say it But he does accomplish what he wants
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Originally Posted by Mr Pilkington
Say "hi" to the n/a as she stands today:


Go ahead and double that and you have your 500 prancing ponies......we all know what it takes to double FD horsepower, and we ain't exactly talkin' pump gas here kiddies
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250 rhwp, nice although what all have you done for it to get it to that point? So you've pretty much already doubled the engine hp with what you've done now. I'll have to jump in on the non-believer side though concerning the 450 rwhp or 500 flywheel hp with the supercharger set up. With the parasitic loss of the SP, that engine will be hot to get those number.

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You bealive it or not there is a way (expensive as hell and bling bling) to get around those nastly little heat issues. Ask Mr. McLauren, he'll tell you
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Originally Posted by Mr Pilkington
Say "hi" to the n/a as she stands today:


What kind of joke is this? You posted some dyno with a cut off bottom from who knows what and it makes ~260 hp?

What does that weak little dyno have to do with ANYTHING?


Where is the 500 hp dyno? Just as I and the others have said. BS.
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Originally Posted by Frankie4skin
GGGGGG----yyeaahhhhhhh
Plan 9 has this Pilkington Player Pegged

This guy gets off on Pissing people off, serious check out under his name it reads "are U pissed off Yet?"
and I hate to say it But he does accomplish what he wants
I think the opposite...I am getting a great laugh!
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Originally Posted by Mr rx-7 tt
What kind of joke is this? You posted some dyno with a cut off bottom from who knows what and it makes ~260 hp?
What does that weak little dyno have to do with ANYTHING?
Where is the 500 hp dyno? Just as I and the others have said. BS.
Well, nice to know you've never seen a dyno sheet before. Is there a reason you need the rest? If you don't believe me that's fine, I hope you don't. I find it just as amusing! BTW: if you READ, I know that's beyond you but if you take a moment and look back is said this is a projected number on a mod to come. But that's okay, don't strain yourself, I know 3 syllable words are beyond your level of comprehension. Polish up that G.E.D. behind you too, it?s looking a bit dusty for as proud of it as you seem to be.

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Originally Posted by Mr Pilkington
Well, nice to know you've never seen a dyno sheet before. Is there a reason you need the rest?
All you did was cut a paste a dyno of something, we don't know what the dyno came from (car, boat, etc..) or where it came from. Heck, the bottom is even cut off. The dyno is WEAK. A stock turbo S will make that power.
What we are waiting for is the 500 hp N/A 944 dyno with a supercharger...you know the one you made up?

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If you don't believe me that's fine, I hope you don't. I find it just as amusing!
You lied, got caught and nobody believes you because we all KNOW better.

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BTW: if you READ, I know that's beyond you but if you take a moment and look back is said this is a projected number on a mod to come.
No you didn't...This is what you said, your OWN quotes:

"I drive a 944 and the complete Twin-screw supercharger kit for it is only running me $5800, and will bump the RWHP in excess of 500+"

"Basically everything you will need to adapt the SC to a stock N/A. The combo brings the engine to a solid 500 @ ~6500"



Originally Posted by Mr Pilkington
But that's okay, don't strain yourself, I know 3 syllable words are beyond your level of comprehension. Polish up that G.E.D. behind you too, it?s looking a bit dusty for as proud of it as you seem to be.
I would suggest you don't open your pie hole about another subject you don't have a clue about...this will make you look worse than you already do.

You have been nailed with your bs. All you are doing is digging a deeper hole. Please quit waisting our good bandwith.

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No you didn't...This is what you said, your OWN quotes:

"I drive a 944, and the complete Twin-screw supercharger kit for it is only running me $5800, and will bump the RWHP in excess of 500+"
I'm glad you can quote to me MY OWN words. Too bad you are incapable of reading plain English. Let me translate a few words for you:

Running or run - (normally used as a verb showing the motion of running,) in this context used as a verb showing future action, in this case cost. IE: That is the watch I want, but its going to RUN me $160.

Will - [This one I am surprised you missed, frankly a drunk monkey on crack with a .02% reading comprehension would be able to pick this one up.] A simple phrase used as a future non-negotiable tense. A definite "to be." IE: If you throw that remote control one more time it WILL break.

Bump - To elevate or push. IE: John BUMPd Cindy into the fireplace, now she has 3rd degree burns.




Besides, if you?re so adamant that I am wasting your bandwidth just don?t respond. It?s much easier on both of us if you keep your bias, jealous little koop shut.
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Originally Posted by Mr Pilkington
Well, nice to know you've never seen a dyno sheet before. Is there a reason you need the rest? If you don't believe me that's fine, I hope you don't. I find it just as amusing! BTW: if you READ, I know that's beyond you but if you take a moment and look back is said this is a projected number on a mod to come. But that's okay, don't strain yourself, I know 3 syllable words are beyond your level of comprehension. Polish up that G.E.D. behind you too, it?s looking a bit dusty for as proud of it as you seem to be.
Sigh. The only good thing that be said about this whole situation is that you don't own an rx-7. We have enough dim bulbs in our camp as it is.....
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Originally Posted by Mr Pilkington
I'm glad you can quote to me MY OWN words. Too bad you are incapable of reading plain English. Let me translate a few words for you:

Running or run - (normally used as a verb showing the motion of running,) in this context used as a verb showing future action, in this case cost. IE: That is the watch I want, but its going to RUN me $160.

Will - [This one I am surprised you missed, frankly a drunk monkey on crack with a .02% reading comprehension would be able to pick this one up.] A simple phrase used as a future non-negotiable tense. A definite "to be." IE: If you throw that remote control one more time it WILL break.

Bump - To elevate or push. IE: John BUMPd Cindy into the fireplace, now she has 3rd degree burns.




Besides, if you?re so adamant that I am wasting your bandwidth just don?t respond. It?s much easier on both of us if you keep your bias, jealous little koop shut.
Action talks, bullshit walks. In this case, 'action' is dyno #s, timeslips, Gtech #s, *something* please. Maybe some pics of this beast of yours?
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Originally Posted by Mr Pilkington
You bealive it or not there is a way (expensive as hell and bling bling) to get around those nastly little heat issues. Ask Mr. McLauren, he'll tell you
I doubt the engine bay is gold plated.
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Originally Posted by Mr Pilkington
I'm glad you can quote to me MY OWN words. Too bad you are incapable of reading plain English. Let me translate a few words for you:

Running or run - (normally used as a verb showing the motion of running,) in this context used as a verb showing future action, in this case cost. IE: That is the watch I want, but its going to RUN me $160.
Why are you quoting "running"? "Running me" was the cost of the kit in your quote and we were not talking about price. (LOL)

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Will - [This one I am surprised you missed, frankly a drunk monkey on crack with a .02% reading comprehension would be able to pick this one up.] A simple phrase used as a future non-negotiable tense. A definite "to be." IE: If you throw that remote control one more time it WILL break.
Nice try Pal...but you stated (in non negotiable tense) the kit will make 500 hp. You then stated this...
"The combo brings the engine to a solid 500 @ ~6500"

Now who is incapable of reading plain English ?
You didn't say it may or might. You then post a 250 hp dyno.


Originally Posted by Mr Pilkington
Besides, if you?re so adamant that I am wasting your bandwidth just don?t respond. It?s much easier on both of us if you keep your bias, jealous little koop shut.
Jealous? Of a 21 year old two thousand dollar shi# box? My rims cost more than your car is worth!

We are ALL waiting for that 500 hp dyno when are you going to post it?
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Originally Posted by oneflytrini
I doubt the engine bay is gold plated.
No but his BS is.
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hey chris how you been doing? still picking on those poor porsche owners i see
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Originally Posted by Mr rx-7 tt
We are ALL waiting for that 500 hp dyno when are you going to post it?
Then you'll have to wait until the mod is complete. Don't like that either do you? Well tough ****.
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Originally Posted by Mr Pilkington
Then you'll have to wait until the mod is complete. Don't like that either do you? Well tough ****.
We will be waiting until hell freezes over because it won't ever make 500 hp...nor would anyone buy a supercharger kit that costs 5800 and bolt it on a 21 year old shi# box with a value of 2 grand.
Kaboom!
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Originally Posted by razorback
hey chris how you been doing? still picking on those poor porsche owners i see
Doing Ok...
Someone has to task the BS's.

What's Caleb doing?
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We will be waiting until hell freezes over because it won't ever make 500 hp...nor would anyone buy a supercharger kit that costs 5800 and bolt it on a 21 year old shi# box with a value of 2 grand.
Kaboom!
Pretty much. We all know that there is no way in hell a Porsche could ever hit 500rwhp. It?s a mathematical impossibility! A mandate written in stone since the dawn of time; because I am the lord and holy master of all knowledge. Look at me I have all the knowledge in the universe. Get off your high horse, you have no bloody ******* clue what you are taking about. "A 21 year old car" is a reference that keeps coming up. That's fine; you go and make a snap judgment on a vehicle you have never seen. In fact you don't even know what has ensued since this car has hit my possession. So keep up your little ricer "know it all" attitude. In the end anyone who has any knowledge at all about the 944/951 series knows exactly what I am talking about. But maybe? JUST MAYBE?.. there is one little iota of automotive know-how you don?t possess. I know this is beyond your grasp, but it?s true.


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