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Old 06-30-05, 07:08 PM
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Badge988, please read this thread for the Kills section's rules
https://www.rx7club.com/racing-kills-lounge-10/rules-kills-section-27933/
Allow me to point out a certain rule that you have broken a couple times in this thread.

- All forum guidelines are to be followed which includes all personal attacks, name calling and anything that we consider to be a flame or inappropriate. This will include variations of a cars name such as "rustang", "shitstang", "5.slow", "Honduh", and all the like. If we see a post with anything like that in it, the entire post will be deleted. If it is seen again in that thread, you will be banned for a week. We respect all types of cars and people here and it will not be tolerated any longer.

I will go ahead and edit your posts and change your "Hondogs" to Hondas. I'm gonna let you off with a warning this time seeing as I'm in a good mood and quite frankly don't want to deal with all the paperwork. If I'm called out here again I'm not going to be so lenient next time, do you understand? OK, have a good night, be safe and thanks for being out there. You don't often get the kudos you deserve but know that MOST of us appreciate what you and those like you do for us.

Originally Posted by Nick-7
Ok so Badge 988 is there anyway I can be a cop without all that crap in the car and still drive my RX-7, or one of my other goodies? because cops like me but "street racers" also like me for some reason so I see stupid crap happen all the time.
Of course there are ways. Haven't you seen TFATF??? Its all about going undercover.

88GTU and spimp, keep your cop hating BS off this thread. Take that to the lounge or DOO. He never pushed them into a felony. They had hit 110 BEFORE he pushed HIS OWN cruiser another 10 in order to BOX THEM IN.

To the person who PM'd me saying this isn't a kill... Officer forum rule breaker has a legit kill so the thread stays.

I swear.... A night of rule breaking coppers and cop hating whiners. Its an everyday thing here on my beat. Sometimes I ask myself why I do this job. Imagining the smile on that noobs face as he hits his 100th post and gets to use an av is reason enough. Well...that and the donuts.
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ROTFL.. that last one was awesome jhammons...

Hey I just noticed you're in Irvine, you go to UCI maybe? We should meetup sometime, I'll be down there a lot during the 2nd half of summer school and the regular school year... every other weekend or so.

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I hate ******* police, not saying you are one, but i really hate ******* police

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Old 07-01-05, 01:18 AM
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88 GTU I'm still very puzzled at your attitude. I mean what is your problem anyway? You know I never said you had to like cops and furthermore everyone including you is entitled to opinion.


Now lets just suppose I happened to catch you and say SiRX7 along with jhammons01 out racing on a public street. Lets say 88GTU and SiRX7 were neck and neck through the race and you 'GTU happened to win the race by a foot. Ok so I clocked all of you going say 5 over the limit and the law says I can cite at 1 over the limit. Ok that being said I let jhammons01 go because he lost the race but I write both you and SiRX7 up for 5 over and for careless driving. Did you deserve the ticket? Yes you were racing. Would you be pissed because I let jhammons01 off the hook? I bet you'd be steamed. NOW lets say I don't write anyone a tag would you be pissed? Guess not but now lets level the field by giving ALL a ticket for 5 over now would you be pissed? Im waitng for your answer.

Now you want the honest damn truth? Lets say I did happen to stop you and during this stop you recognized my bald head and badge with the numbers 0988 across the front and then mentioned you were in fact 88GTU. Would I treat you any differently after some of what you had posted here? Nope however I wouldn't nitpick your car apart or give you a bunch of crap in the process, heck if you were doing say 4 over I would write you a warning just as I do with anyone else at that level. As I said before Im very fair minded and to tell you the truth I doubt I would even stop you for 4 over the limit even if you had a flag on your car that said "Hey Pig-988 Im 88GTU" however I might take a picture of it and post it here!

You don't have to like me, no one does but for the life of me why the bad *** attitude?

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Old 07-01-05, 01:43 AM
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SiRX7 you can edit my posts I don't have an issue with that. Heck I dont even have an issue with 88GTU for that matter. Lets look at the whole picture of the posts first before a hasty decision is made.

I did look at the whole of the rules in the link and thanks for pointing them out. I would also like a few of the others to review the rules themselves before posting any replies to my last follow-up post.

I don't know if SiRX7 is a peace officer or not however it was eluded to in his last post. If you are I'm sure you can attest to some of the difficult decision making we endure on a daily basis and the fact our decisions are not alway well liked by everyone.

I only joined the RX7club forum for one reason and that is to learn and share knowlege with others. Not only am I an officer Im also an electronics technician, I hold a degree in electrical engineering and also have many years of practical wrenching under the hood of just about every make of car including a Rolls Royce. Now if you want me to explain how to take apart a Lycoming IO-360 aircraft engine I can do that however if you want me to explain how to win a race with a non turbo FB and a Viper well that's a bit out of my leauge. Heck I might even be able to explain how to fly IFR on this forum but I will never tell how to beat a ticket!

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Old 07-01-05, 02:55 AM
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Cop haters suck.
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Maybe so but everyone is entitled to their opinions and I wont get in the way of that, I might not agree with them but I do carry duct tape with me...

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Nope, Not a peace officer. Just a mod. I figured I'd give an officer of the law a taste of his own medicine. I hoped you would have picked up on the sarcasm and joking around in my post. Read it again, that was my best impression of Fox TV's show "COPS".
BTW... What gave you the impression I was a cop??? I'm betting it was the donut reference. <----wink = sarcasm.
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Wow! I don't read this thread for 24 hrs, and look what happens! Before 88GTU - we were having an intelligent conversation. Now look at this mess!

spimp - Read the ENTIRE Thread!! Badge988 and myself already went through this. He did NOT push them into a felony. He simply followed them until back up arrived. Which is a Standard Procedure.

88GTU - Perhaps you just have issues. Get over it and MOVE ON! If you had at least been able to explain your position, then maybe (just maybe) you MIGHT get some sympathy. Instead you came here and made generalized and opinionated statements. And just look where it got you - NOWHERE!
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On a sidenote - I got my first reputation points from this thread. No comments were left. So how do you know if it was positive or negative reputation?
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this thread is ****** gay and i'm done talking about pigs i come here to have fun with things that have to do with rx-7's not cops so i'm done with this stupid ****** thread !!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by 88 GTU
this thread is ****** gay and i'm done talking about pigs i come here to have fun with things that have to do with rx-7's not cops so i'm done with this stupid ****** thread !!!!!!!!!
I think maybe he finally took the hint!
Old 07-01-05, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick-7
Ok so Badge 988 is there anyway I can be a cop without all that crap in the car and still drive my RX-7, or one of my other goodies? because cops like me but "street racers" also like me for some reason so I see stupid crap happen all the time.
In Washington State they have some interesting undercover cars. There used to be some nice looking 5.0 Mustangs with dark tinted windows so you couldn't see the uniforms. There are others now.

Oregon State Police have a couple of Camaros. One is marked, the other is not.

A cousin of mine is a Seattle Police Officer. His fav cruiser like 988 was the 260 hp LT1 Caprice. Pushrods or not they will kick the snot out of a 4.6 Ford Interceptor.

What I want to see (not in my rear-view thanks) is a Dodge Magnum or Charger cruiser. Ford will have to make changes to keep up with the 340hp hemi.

On another note. I had just blown up some home made fireworks today (gotta make what you can't buy) when and unmarked car came down the street. I thought I was about to be cited, but he was delivering a summons for the juvenile delinquent next door.
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Originally Posted by badge988
Last leg of my shift I spot 3 imports going head to head down the freeway (35W@lake south) and I estimated the speed around 80 MPH. I floor my unmarked and catch up at 38th street in very light traffic and hold with these guys for another mile to get a good speed for the records. I suspect the drivers thought my blacked out cruiser to be one of those "sporty" crown vics and they went for another 25 MPH at this point. I kept up with them while waiting for backup but didnt hit the lights. They added more to bring them past 110 MPH (felony) but I kept right up with them. Knowing where my backups were I pushed MY cruiser another 10 over them to get them into a "box" with the other marked unit behind, both of us hit our lights at the same time and left them no where to go.

During the first part of the arrest the one driver said "I cant believe your cop car beat me!"

All the drivers were cited with felony speed, careless driving and one had a N2O bottle in the rear and it was cold.
Just going 110 is a "careless driving"? WTF were they DOING besides going 110? Were they weaving in and out of traffic? Were they zipping past traffic at like +50 mph closing speed?

Freaking bullcrap Motor Vehicle Codes... "Since you were going X speed, you are guilty of careless driving, and it's a felony..." What a load of crap.

Now, if they directly threatened or harmed another person's life or property, then they are guilty of a crime. But merely going 110 mph is NOT indicitative of a crime.

The ONLY place an "absolute" law like that is reasonable is in a zone where going over a certain speed is places like 15 mph in a hospital crossing zone, or 25 in a tight residential zone with trees on both sides that would block the drivers view of pedestrians or other traffic. There are multiple places on I75 here in Michigan that going 160+ mph (during the day) would be perfectly safe, depending on traffic conditions. Then, there's plenty of places where the 85th percentile speed limit is set at 55 mph and most people do under that because they don't feel comfortable going more than that, while others (who know the area very well) go faster because they know what to look for. And then when the road straightens out again, they're back up to 55.

And don't EVEN get me started on B.S. seatbelt laws. Yeah it's usually a good idea to wear it (pretty much always a good idea), but the government has NO business forcing people to wear them, and paying a fine if they don't. So many "good idea" laws that have NO constitutional basis, but hey, it sounds like a good idea, so let's do it. You go back to 1790 and tell our George Washington "Hey, we're going to make a law that says it's mandatory to strap yourself down to a horse so you don't get bucked off it and get hurt..." Freaking bullcrap laws...

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Originally Posted by John Magnuson
I've found that how hard the cops are on you when you're speeding depends on three major factors:

1) Who the cop is
2) How polite you are
3) What part of the country you're in

I've been pulled over twice for over 100mph in Southern California and both times I got just a regular speeding ticket and got out of it. Pulled over once in Western Texas. He got me on the radar going 124mph. He justed asked me to please slow down.

However, the angriest cops I've met are on the east coast. They flip out if you're going more than 10 over.

Anyway... I'm against unsafe driving on public roads. But as you can tell I don't always follow the rules. The fact is that what is safe is a very subjective thing. Driving at any speed is unsafe. Speed limits are a way of trying to put an artificial congrete number on safety. I often feel that I can exceed those limits safely in some situations. But I accept that I will receive speeding tickets due to my attitude. I don't get mad at the officers when I'm pulled over. They're just people doing their job.
I don't get mad at them, they're just doing their job, BUT part of their job often includes using some common sense. Like going 80 in a 65 with no traffic around for a mile, isn't something someone should get a ticket for. BUT, I've been given stupid tickets like that.

Just recently (court date on the 6th), I got pulled over for turning right on a no turn on red. 11:30 at night, TWO cars on the road, both stopped. One was two lanes to my left at the light, going in the same direction. The other was parked on the side of the road facing perpendicular to us, about 1000 feet away. There's NO roads that are "hidden roads" that I can't see traffic on, everything is visible. I sit there at the red for about 5 seconds, baby hasn't been happy all night (been on the road for 3 hours already), highway onramp is RIGHT there, 5 feet in front of me to my right, and go. All of a sudden, halfway up the ramp, the freaking flashy lights show up behind me. I'm EXCEEDINGLY nice to this guy, and he comes back with a ticket. I say "You're giving me a ticket for THAT?!?!" He says "YEAH!!! It would have been just like you ran a red light or stop sign..."

I didn't say anything at this point, the roadside isn't time to argue with the ONLY person "legally" able to carry a gun in that situation... But I'm thinking "Um, no, it's NOTHING like running a light or a stop sign. I knew for a FACT that there were no other cars moving on the road, I sat there and made SURE there weren't. If it were a stop sign or red light and I just blew it, I have NO way of knowing whether or not there's someone coming...."

But at any rate, this sort of B.S. is what pisses me off. That officer should have had enough sense to see "ok, there was no danger, don't even bother the guy by pulling him over..." But no, in his drive to enforce the law ABSOLUTELY, he pulls me over, AND gives me a ticket, COMPLETELY against the spirit of the Motor Vehicle Code, which exists SOLELY to protect the public from dangerous situations. When there is no danger (as in this situation), it is NOT applicable, lest it have some other purpose beyond "protection of the public".
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Yes it's called "revenue enhancement" and all your ticket money goes to the state general fund to pay for new squad cars, lightbars and that sort of stuff. Now I will agree with you all the way about stupid laws. The sad thing for me is Im supposed to enforce these laws and act on violations. Did you know I could give a DWI to someone on a lawn tractor mowing the grass with a beer in his hand? It has wheels and motor so its considered a "motorized vehicle" however I doubt the cite would stand in court, maybe long enough for the judge to laugh it out.

Lets see here "nitpick laws"
Turns on red are a big one for local cops along with running a red, rolling stop on a sign and other petty bs. As it stands right now with the 4th weekend we are to work under "proactive enforcement" because the state govt has partially shut down... Read broke and now we are supposed to help fill the GF with citations. Ah bullshit.

Right now Im only looking for DK drivers and going to ignore speeders for the most part simply because to me its more important to make sure the drunks are in check. I have always favored the basic speed rule: Drive at speeds reasonable and prudent for conditions.

All I can say is this weekend there will be lots of young cops on the roads and they love to hand out paper, they think it makes them look better and they are also pissed because they have to work.

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sounds like a P.IG with nothing else better to do but FU-- with people. you didn't have to push them into felony. you were breaking the law to make someone else get a felony, what do you get some kind of bonus for felonies? everytime i turn around som PIG is trying to pull someone else into the big buisness thats know as the system. if you people only know one thing know that YOU ARE ONLY FREE AS LONG AS YOU DO AS YOU'RE TOLD! FU-- DA POLICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!
You can't say **** the police like that. THat statement would be acceptable if everysingle cop wrong you. Specify which cops you want to ****. FOr example do you hate cops from a certain area that all have wronged you or just one cop who pulled you over for being mentally retarded.

There is only one way to beat a ticket. Commit suicide before he gets to your window. In addition to getting away with the ticket you also get away with the felony because I am pretty sure Suicide is illegal.


I also believe that their is no evidence to support that somebody is terminally an ******* I believe that everybody has their bad days and good days. Just that the bad days is when you meet the people and are more memorable. Usually people who are having bad days are lazy. But if you **** them off they will get all up in you with very little foreplay just because they can. And don't hate the player hate the game.
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For the most part I have given up on the flamers and now focusing my energy to those who want to learn or just ask questions. If its a negative response directed at me it gets ignored pure and simple.

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Originally Posted by Barwick
Just going 110 is a "careless driving"? WTF were they DOING besides going 110? Were they weaving in and out of traffic? Were they zipping past traffic at like +50 mph closing speed?

Freaking bullcrap Motor Vehicle Codes... "Since you were going X speed, you are guilty of careless driving, and it's a felony..." What a load of crap.

Now, if they directly threatened or harmed another person's life or property, then they are guilty of a crime. But merely going 110 mph is NOT indicitative of a crime.

The ONLY place an "absolute" law like that is reasonable is in a zone where going over a certain speed is places like 15 mph in a hospital crossing zone, or 25 in a tight residential zone with trees on both sides that would block the drivers view of pedestrians or other traffic. There are multiple places on I75 here in Michigan that going 160+ mph (during the day) would be perfectly safe, depending on traffic conditions. Then, there's plenty of places where the 85th percentile speed limit is set at 55 mph and most people do under that because they don't feel comfortable going more than that, while others (who know the area very well) go faster because they know what to look for. And then when the road straightens out again, they're back up to 55.

And don't EVEN get me started on B.S. seatbelt laws. Yeah it's usually a good idea to wear it (pretty much always a good idea), but the government has NO business forcing people to wear them, and paying a fine if they don't. So many "good idea" laws that have NO constitutional basis, but hey, it sounds like a good idea, so let's do it. You go back to 1790 and tell our George Washington "Hey, we're going to make a law that says it's mandatory to strap yourself down to a horse so you don't get bucked off it and get hurt..." Freaking bullcrap laws...

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...just like me going 40 in the 25...I don't see how it is a residential unless I'm going to have pedestrians jumping over a 10 ft concrete wall out of their backyards to get hit..so what's with some *** hole pulling me over? Sure I was speeding, but I was going a perfectly safe speed for the conditions provided. He didn't sound like an ******* when he talked to me....but it's still FUCKED UP, so I officially think Officer Barios is an *******. End of story...I think the seatbelt law is complete crap, even if I do wear my seatbelt 100% of the time.
-side note: congrats 988, cops should be more concerned with drunk drivers instead of petty **** like 15 over on an empty street. I commend you for that.

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Lets look at it from a logical point of view. If Im busy with a speed stop and a drunk goes flying by can I just stop what Im doing and go after the drunk? No. I have to finish up with the cite before I can move on to the next. There are exceptions to this rule however far and few between. Now lets say the same drunk goes flying by and Im not doing anything, I go after him but during the stop a crazy kid who is speeding and playing with his stereo just misses us on the side of the road, what can I do? Hopefully get a plate number along with the description and put it over the air and maybe another squad is within 2 miles to catch up with him. Odds lean to the kid getting away. Now I dont want the younger RX drivers and dreamers here to think Im singling out kids here, actually it would have been more accurate to state the driver of the H2 Humvee who was yaking on his/hers cellphone while taking notes over the kids screaming in the back. Kids do strange things at least in the eyes of an adult but to them the constant yelling is normal for them... Easy for me to say with a few of my own.
Now lets say I stop someone for speeding and their response to me before I can ask for license and insurance is along the lines of "Gee Im glad to see you I was following that drunk driver ahead of me in the black Hummer and trying to get a signal on my cellphone"
Now my catch-22 here is do I call the guys story BS? Not if I had seen the SUV that he described in front of him, you can bet Im leaving some serious rubber behind after thanking the speeder. My catch-22 is this: If the guy was right and I took the time to write him the cite and the SUV plowed into a school bus whos *** would be on the 5 o'clock news? Mine! I take a priority to drunks over speeders, burnt out headlights and the like. Having lost a school friend to a drunk driver they get my best.

My only concern with doing 40 in a residential area is lets say your tire pops or something of that nature and you go plowing into a parked car? Its going to leave a mark. In that same quiet residential area some kids are hiding behind a car from some other friends and you happen to hit the car behind them? Could get ugly especially at night when they are out scoping out stereos. Not saying thats what they were doing but do keep in mind kids dont always think rationally especially without sunlight. I have witnessed the aftermath of such a crash and the end result was one kid with a trailer hitch buried in his chest.

Seat belt laws, thank the insurance people for pushing those laws. They are trying to keep all the money the can. Wear your seat belt is my professional advice however what you do is your choice. They can and have saved lives.

Officer Barios was right in the ticket however I hate to say and I dont even know the guy, for all I know he could be an *******.

Sometimes life can be a real bitch

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are you serious

and your proud of yourself?
they will be back racing again if they want to.

all you did was waste your time and theirs
but i guess thats all you have is time isnt it.

this guy is a joke



Originally Posted by badge988
I don't care how big the bottle of NOS is, my radio is always going to be faster!
Maybe it was a little cheap to run those guys over in speed but even if I took them down at say 85 would they be out racing again? Odds are yes they would.
I don't have a problem with street racers so much as I have a problem with extreme speeders who have no respect for the general public especially on a rather busy 4-lane freeway right in the middle of a city. Sure traffic was light considering the time of day however they didn't have more than 1/8 mile of maximum distance to play around with in traffic and those are some pretty thin margains.

Now if these guys were racing out on some deserted industrial access road and wanted to hit their full potential the risks would be much lower for others but just the same for the drivers. Im not going to condone street racing however if you are going to race do it on a track or at the very least away from the general public. Do remember its going to take alot longer for emergency rescue to come and cut you out of that mangled Hondog because you lost the gamble with the laws of physics.

Now if you want to race to say traffic speed thats your business, at least you wont be passing anyone at that point. Not the safest thing however lower risks. Just remember some officers call it unreasonable acceleration however if your wheels dont squeal its a judgement call.

Tickets issued today: 4 speeds, 9 seatbelt and 2 DWI arrests all within 8 hours of boredom!

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not a flamer

But i have dealt with your kind before.

Basic premise is you get what you pay for.

cops low salaries attract non educated, adrenline junkies that are trying to prove they are still a man after their women got banged by another man. In other words "trash" Well this isnt true for all cops, it is the majority just based on the low salaries, people with actual intelligence and worth are sitting in some office or at the FBI making six figures, not pulling over grandma for doing 5 over the limit.


cops should concentrate on domestic abuse,murders,rapes, and basically "maintain" the peace

Instead of pulling over people for virtually no reason, which this piece of trash seems to be set on doing.




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For the most part I have given up on the flamers and now focusing my energy to those who want to learn or just ask questions. If its a negative response directed at me it gets ignored pure and simple.

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so which are you?

born or trying.

either way doing a pretty good job

Originally Posted by badge988
Some people are born stupid and some people try real hard at it!

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Old 07-03-05, 03:10 AM
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"My only concern with doing 40 in a residential area is lets say your tire pops or something of that nature and you go plowing into a parked car? Its going to leave a mark. In that same quiet residential area some kids are hiding behind a car from some other friends and you happen to hit the car behind them? Could get ugly especially at night when they are out scoping out stereos. Not saying thats what they were doing but do keep in mind kids dont always think rationally especially without sunlight. I have witnessed the aftermath of such a crash and the end result was one kid with a trailer hitch buried in his chest."


-I said there were 10 ft tall concrete walls on either side of the WIDE *** road. I think it's a no parking...or NOONE bothers parking there because to get to their car they have to walk ALL the way around to get to it or jump a 10 ft high conrete wall from their backyard...empty street, contcrete walls on each side of me, going 15 over, street lights keep the street well lit....he didn't sound like an ******* talking to me, but HE SURE IS ONE FOR PULLING ME OVER. And my tire could pop....I know I could control my car, but lets say I do crash...I go straight into a wall...not through it.


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