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Old May 30, 2005 | 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by takumi4G63
What power were you at this night would you guess? Around 400whp I would assume? If that's the case, and you pulled a 380whp DSM that hard, then the DSM wasn't really 380whp. You would probably pull him but not nearly as bad as you say. Unless of course your car is much lighter. I was wondering if you knew the weight of your car w/o driver? AWD DSM's are 3100lb stock.

DSMer was lying.
id guess that he was 3-400 pounds lighter than the dsm. its a pretty big difference, not to mention he did have a bit more power.
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Old May 30, 2005 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by takumi4G63
What power were you at this night would you guess? Around 400whp I would assume? If that's the case, and you pulled a 380whp DSM that hard, then the DSM wasn't really 380whp. You would probably pull him but not nearly as bad as you say. Unless of course your car is much lighter. I was wondering if you knew the weight of your car w/o driver? AWD DSM's are 3100lb stock.

DSMer was lying.
I pulled on the same DSM and I am still on the stock twins (full bolt-ons w/ tune by Steve Kan) running about 13 psi.

We went from a 40-45 roll and i was in 3rd(should have went to 2nd) and she pulled a car on me b4 i stopped her pull and began my own By the time i shifted to fourth I had about half a car on her then I just walked away.

Either way the DMS owner was really cool and let us look at her setup( sorry but i can't remember what turbo or boost she was running but the car seemed well put together)and she did ALL the work herself. And she does have a heavy *** system in the back as well. So like you said before the 7 was deffinately a lot lighter than the DSM. Hope this clears things up a bit.
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Old May 31, 2005 | 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by DSMguywantsFD
id guess that he was 3-400 pounds lighter than the dsm. its a pretty big difference, not to mention he did have a bit more power.
That's not a big enough difference to pull 12 cars. I forgot to ask if this was a 1st or 2nd gen DSM, because 2nd gen are heavier. I know 1st gen is 3100lbs. stock.
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Old May 31, 2005 | 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by ProjectD
I pulled on the same DSM and I am still on the stock twins (full bolt-ons w/ tune by Steve Kan) running about 13 psi.

We went from a 40-45 roll and i was in 3rd(should have went to 2nd) and she pulled a car on me b4 i stopped her pull and began my own By the time i shifted to fourth I had about half a car on her then I just walked away.

Either way the DMS owner was really cool and let us look at her setup( sorry but i can't remember what turbo or boost she was running but the car seemed well put together)and she did ALL the work herself. And she does have a heavy *** system in the back as well. So like you said before the 7 was deffinately a lot lighter than the DSM. Hope this clears things up a bit.
Ah so it was a 2G. I still doubt that it puts down 400whp. That's no easy feat if she was on pump gas.
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Old May 31, 2005 | 02:19 PM
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The DSM was a 1G and FWD but there really is know way for us to know her exact #s or if she was full of BS all we can go by is what we were told. I am probably mistaken but I thought 400whp was not far at all out of reach for a DSM w/ aftermarket turbo and propper fuel and tuning pump gas or not. But like I said you would probably know better than me. But.....I do know what Dave's (Apnea) car is capable of, And I don't find it hard to beleive at all. I'll try to get some pix or maybe even video of this girls setup next time i am out there and i see her.
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Old May 31, 2005 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by takumi4G63
That's not a big enough difference to pull 12 cars....
What exactly are you saying here? explain it to me like i'm a 5 year old.
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Old May 31, 2005 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by redvalkyrie
MKIV Supras are cool. MKIV Supra owners are gay. MKIV Supra owners from Tulsa are Liberace gay.

Pruner that you? You're the guy with the MR2 right?
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 05:23 AM
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by ProjectD
The DSM was a 1G and FWD but there really is know way for us to know her exact #s or if she was full of BS all we can go by is what we were told. I am probably mistaken but I thought 400whp was not far at all out of reach for a DSM w/ aftermarket turbo and propper fuel and tuning pump gas or not. But like I said you would probably know better than me. But.....I do know what Dave's (Apnea) car is capable of, And I don't find it hard to beleive at all. I'll try to get some pix or maybe even video of this girls setup next time i am out there and i see her.
It certainly can be done, but you need really good tuning and most people don't do it with the stock internals. I mostly don't believe it because of the outcome of the race along with the difficulty of reaching that power level on pump gas safely. On race gas, I would more easily believe it.

Apneablue, pulling 12 cars is a ridiculous lead. Now that I know this car was a 1G FWD there is absolutely no way it was putting down 400whp, or the driver was at 50% throttle. FWD DSMs weigh in at only 2800lbs stock (sometimes lighter), which is similar to the FD. The race would have been very close even if the FD still won, but it certainly would not pull 12 cars.
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 10:18 PM
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Pruner that you? You're the guy with the MR2 right?
Yup, it's me...all-seeing...all-knowing. You know, kinda like God.
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 10:22 PM
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Yup, it's me...all-seeing...all-knowing. You know, kinda like God.
Welcome to the club! You should post a couple photos of your car....

Dis dude has one of the sickest MR2s I've ever seen! Noooicce!
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