BPU Supras w/ Stock twins are really slow
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BPU Supras w/ Stock twins are really slow
I got to race one lastnight along with a 380whp DSM and raped them both...Like really badly. From a 2nd gear roll from 40-120 I was ahead like 8 -10 car lengths. I was really thinking the supra would have given me a better run. Dont know what kind of power he was making but he had all bolt-ons and stock twins...Was the new body style. Don't know what they call those. MKsomething... Maybe need to go up against one with built motor and single turbo.
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It's not that they're slow...
it's that you're really f*cking fast!!! Mister GT35/40 man.
Nice kills, I can't wait until I can afford to do my GT35R single conversion. Were you at 16 psi?
On another note, I just got in from cruising around with the FD as well. The only thing I got to "race" was a Pacifica that tried to pull a move to get around me, twice! A Lightning was toying with me for a minute later on, but he turned off before I could get a chance to "toy back".
it's that you're really f*cking fast!!! Mister GT35/40 man.
Nice kills, I can't wait until I can afford to do my GT35R single conversion. Were you at 16 psi?
On another note, I just got in from cruising around with the FD as well. The only thing I got to "race" was a Pacifica that tried to pull a move to get around me, twice! A Lightning was toying with me for a minute later on, but he turned off before I could get a chance to "toy back".
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It was pretty funny. This girl....Who looks like she could be a guy walks up to me and says "Would you like to run me in my DSM and my frined in his Supra" I said "Sure, that'd be fun!"
So we show each other what we had....Then since I really never setup races like this I asked her...Well, how do you do this? what speed, bla bla...She said...Just roll from 40 in whatever gear you want.
Ok, so from doing pulls with my other buddies in FDs we always go from 3rd gear just to see how our turbos spool compared to each other..
So we line up. The DSM on my left and the Supra on my right...The DSM honks 3 time and the ******* took off like a bat out of hell..
There I was sitting around for a second waiting for boost while they are now 3-4 cars ahead....I play catch up until I hit the middle of 4th and then we are all even...
Ok, wasn't going to let that happen again. I went into 2nd at 40mph which was about 4500 rpm (I think) then the DSM honks 3 times again. This time, it was no competition...I pulled from 2nd to about 6000rpm in 4th and had them a good 8-10 cars behind...
It was funny because it was a middle eastern guy in the supra and his eyes were so wide open in disbelief...We did that 2 other times and then headed back to the parking lot...The Supra guys says..."That's the baddes ******* FD i have ever seen"...He must not have seen many of them
But his setup was pretty nice and supra motor sounds really great.
And get this...the chick rebuilt and R&R her own motor...honestly, just by looking at her and how rough she was, I believe ever word she said They were both cool tho.
So we show each other what we had....Then since I really never setup races like this I asked her...Well, how do you do this? what speed, bla bla...She said...Just roll from 40 in whatever gear you want.
Ok, so from doing pulls with my other buddies in FDs we always go from 3rd gear just to see how our turbos spool compared to each other..
So we line up. The DSM on my left and the Supra on my right...The DSM honks 3 time and the ******* took off like a bat out of hell..
There I was sitting around for a second waiting for boost while they are now 3-4 cars ahead....I play catch up until I hit the middle of 4th and then we are all even...
Ok, wasn't going to let that happen again. I went into 2nd at 40mph which was about 4500 rpm (I think) then the DSM honks 3 times again. This time, it was no competition...I pulled from 2nd to about 6000rpm in 4th and had them a good 8-10 cars behind...
It was funny because it was a middle eastern guy in the supra and his eyes were so wide open in disbelief...We did that 2 other times and then headed back to the parking lot...The Supra guys says..."That's the baddes ******* FD i have ever seen"...He must not have seen many of them
But his setup was pretty nice and supra motor sounds really great.
And get this...the chick rebuilt and R&R her own motor...honestly, just by looking at her and how rough she was, I believe ever word she said They were both cool tho.
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yea, that third gear business wasn't working for me either. I Don't think i'll bother with the eclipse again, I tore that she-man a new one . But still wanna peice of the BPU supra I think it should be close.
Oh and Dave, I bet they are gonna want you to race the blue supra.(another middle eastern guy) That thing supposedly is really quick. But i'm sure we'll find out sooner or later first hand
Anyway good kills man. It's time to charge the video camera....
Oh and Dave, I bet they are gonna want you to race the blue supra.(another middle eastern guy) That thing supposedly is really quick. But i'm sure we'll find out sooner or later first hand
Anyway good kills man. It's time to charge the video camera....
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I know youre single, but sometimes it bugs me when people think a bolt-on 4th gen Supra is automatically faster than a bolt-on FD, when under normal street coniditions I dont find this to be the case (in fact, from what I have seen/experienced the reverse has been true). BPU+whatever Supras really need 100+ octane race fuel to be relatively very fast. Going from 91 to 100 octane basically allows them to increase from ~16 psi (without timing retard on 91) to 21 psi (on 100 octane), which ends up being about 50+rwhp and a lot more torque. Almost all of the fast numbers they get at the strip are probably on the race gas. If the guy was on pump gas and his setup wasnt just right I can totally see him being 'slow' from your perspective (with the tuned single).
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Originally Posted by Aristo
I know youre single, but sometimes it bugs me when people think a bolt-on 4th gen Supra is automatically faster than a bolt-on FD, when under normal street coniditions I dont find this to be the case (in fact, from what I have seen/experienced the reverse has been true). BPU+whatever Supras really need 100+ octane race fuel to be relatively very fast. Going from 91 to 100 octane basically allows them to increase from ~16 psi (without timing retard on 91) to 21 psi (on 100 octane), which ends up being about 50+rwhp and a lot more torque. Almost all of the fast numbers they get at the strip are probably on the race gas. If the guy was on pump gas and his setup wasnt just right I can totally see him being 'slow' from your perspective (with the tuned single).
My buddy who posted above, ProjectD....He has a BPU FD with pfc running 13psi....His **** is fast! He usually hangs pretty close to me with my single setup and I have 412 rwhp. The only reason the supra pulled on him is becuase the supra was in 2nd and the FD was in 3rd from 40mph.
Either way, we are going to start videoing all this because we've been having a lot of fun in our town with kills all over the place. Hopefully I will get to run with this 700rwhp Supra everyone is talking about.
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Nice kills, I can't wait until I can afford to do my GT35R single conversion. Were you at 16 psi?
Nice kills, I can't wait until I can afford to do my GT35R single conversion. Were you at 16 psi?
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Originally Posted by apneablue
Sorry dude, didn't see your question. Yes, was running 16 with water injection so was putting down right at 400rwhp... But considering the way I pulled on them I could have run about equal with them at 10 - 12psi.
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Originally Posted by Aristo
I know youre single, but sometimes it bugs me when people think a bolt-on 4th gen Supra is automatically faster than a bolt-on FD, when under normal street coniditions I dont find this to be the case (in fact, from what I have seen/experienced the reverse has been true). BPU+whatever Supras really need 100+ octane race fuel to be relatively very fast. Going from 91 to 100 octane basically allows them to increase from ~16 psi (without timing retard on 91) to 21 psi (on 100 octane), which ends up being about 50+rwhp and a lot more torque. Almost all of the fast numbers they get at the strip are probably on the race gas. If the guy was on pump gas and his setup wasnt just right I can totally see him being 'slow' from your perspective (with the tuned single).
So true, many have no idea the tricks alot of BPU Supra have to go through to get a good time....pulling TRAC fuses, resetting ECUs, 100+ octane, pulling wastegate hoses, etc -stuff that doesn't usually happen cruising down the road on a saturday night. My BPU Auto was a mid 13 sec @106-107mph dog in street trim. Doing those aforementioned things in the staging lanes got me 12.4s @ 117. So, the potential is there, but seeing it on the street seems to become increasingly rarer.
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Originally Posted by Romancer
nice kills single man
was the dsm 1st Gen or Second Gen, front drive or AWD?
and a ******* was driving it..?
was the dsm 1st Gen or Second Gen, front drive or AWD?
and a ******* was driving it..?
well, it could have been a ******* but i didn't inspect the goods...So we're just going off what the exterior looked like
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Originally Posted by apneablue
My buddy who posted above, ProjectD....He has a BPU FD with pfc running 13psi....His **** is fast! He usually hangs pretty close to me with my single setup and I have 412 rwhp.
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Originally Posted by matty
not sure how your turbo is in relation to a t-78 but i beat my buddy's t-78 with my stock twins pretty easily. at the time he was on low boost but still had 30 more rwhp then me. Also i had a 200 lb passenger. the stock twins are awesome for roll racing. avg horsepower is much more important than peak power! we went from about 70 up to about 140mph. We wjere on our way down to a Kan tuning session where we both did base runs before the tuning. thats how i know he had 30 more rwhp.
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You guys kick ***. It's true the twins are the best on the street.....but I wouldn't trade my T78 for the world. It's rules from 5000 rpm 1st gear rolls . You guys kick so much *** I am printing this out to show some supra loving homos at school.
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Originally Posted by Outkast
You guys kick ***. It's true the twins are the best on the street.....but I wouldn't trade my T78 for the world. It's rules from 5000 rpm 1st gear rolls . You guys kick so much *** I am printing this out to show some supra loving homos at school.
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Originally Posted by Rotary Experiment Seven
A supra needs about 100 hp more than an rx-7 to win because of the weight difference
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