360 rwhp rx7 vs z06
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100% Bone stock C6 Z06
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Ranger's 11.31 127.55 Bone-stock 2006 Z06
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100% Bone stock C5 Z06
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Ranger's 11.31 127.55 Bone-stock 2006 Z06
http://www.learntodragrace.com/images/rangerwanted2.wmv
100% Bone stock C5 Z06
http://z06vette.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48180
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Originally Posted by Mr rx-7 tt
100% Bone stock C6 Z06
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1360361
Ranger's 11.31 127.55 Bone-stock 2006 Z06
http://www.learntodragrace.com/images/rangerwanted2.wmv
100% Bone stock C5 Z06
http://z06vette.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48180
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1360361
Ranger's 11.31 127.55 Bone-stock 2006 Z06
http://www.learntodragrace.com/images/rangerwanted2.wmv
100% Bone stock C5 Z06
http://z06vette.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48180
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Originally Posted by rt turbo
err. not bad, but tweeking has happened. he rewired the fans... thats all he stated, but the fact he did that means somethng else may have happened. he ran lower 12's without the rewiring. im still skeptical. of course that is only 170 ft above sea level, which is much lower than BG KY.
You have been shown what you said couldn't happen and you are still trying to make excuses.
Give it up.
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Originally Posted by Mr rx-7 tt
He also ran a lower 12's after the rewiring. He used a wire to jump his fan in the C5 Z06 because his temps were reaching 230 degrees. That's not tweaking anything.
You have been shown what you said couldn't happen and you are still trying to make excuses.
Give it up.
You have been shown what you said couldn't happen and you are still trying to make excuses.
Give it up.
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i'll argue that the C5 Z06 will run high 11's stock. i have seen many average drivers do 12.2-12.4s at 115 with poor 2.0 60 foots.
my weak L98 camaro did 1.88 on smaller street tires, so a car with more power and bigger meats on a good prepped track should beable to cut a high 1.8x 60 foot. i have seen MANY street cars do that, some having more power than a C5 Z06 and some with lots less. cobra guys have hit 1.7x on stock rubber.
if you can drive u can do it. that being said, a Z06 on a stock rubber should crack 1.8x to 1.9x 60 foot and run the 1/4 in high 11s.
GM high tech performance tested one to 11.97 at 118 in cooler weather with a BONE stock 04 z. stock tires and filter.
heres the list for stock and CAI/drag radial C5 Z06 1/4mile records
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...26&postcount=1
another link to same thing
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1132866
ranger has that record too it seems...11.81 at 117 with a 1.78 60foot
rewiring the fans does nothing. the engine might have been gettin HOT and the fans turning on earlier will help keep it cooler...BUT if you get to the track earlier and let the car chill down and ice the manifold, it will stay cold by the time you get to the line. i know this cuz i have done it. before and after runs with fan switch wiring and without. ice and without. keepin the engine cool makes ur run faster. i noticed a .1 gain. so by giving the car hours to cool down, or using fans, or iceing, it all acomplishes the same goal.
so a stock C5 z06 can do high 11s. its tricky, definately not for everyone, but it has been done.
and stock C5 Ls1's have hit high 12s. stock Fbodies have hit 12.9x to 13.0s bone stock. my track has a catback/lid car on bald nittos doing mid 12s at 110mph. street tires he did 13.1-13.3s at 109. and vettes weight around 200lbs lighter than a fbody. thats 2 tenths and near 2mph difference. my 170 lb passenger slowed my car down 1.5mph and 2 tenths exactly
and the C6 Z06 is 11.3 stock tires..11.2 with drag radials
from ranger himself
On drag radials
1st pass: 12.79 MIR day 1 clutch pedal hung on launch
2d pass: 11.60 MIR day 1
3d pass: 11.70 MIR day 1
4th pass: 11.58 MIR day 1 figured out the need to manage coolant temp
5th pass: 11.31 MIR day 1
6th pass: 11.65 MIR day 1 clutch pedal hung on launch
7th pass: 11.38 Capitol day 2
8th pass: 11.36 Capitol day 2
9th pass: 11.28 Capitol day 2
10th pass: 11.20 Capitol day 2
I then ran 8 straight passes on stock tires.
On stock tires
1st pass: 11.48 MIR day 3
2d pass: 11.40 MIR day 3
3d pass: 11.34 Cecil day 4
4th pass: 11.50 Cecil day 4
5th pass: 11.58 Capitol day 5 street night, damp launch area
6th pass: 11.69 Capitol day 5 street night, damp launch area
7th pass: 11.38 Cecil day 6
8th pass: 11.31 Cecil day 6
my weak L98 camaro did 1.88 on smaller street tires, so a car with more power and bigger meats on a good prepped track should beable to cut a high 1.8x 60 foot. i have seen MANY street cars do that, some having more power than a C5 Z06 and some with lots less. cobra guys have hit 1.7x on stock rubber.
if you can drive u can do it. that being said, a Z06 on a stock rubber should crack 1.8x to 1.9x 60 foot and run the 1/4 in high 11s.
GM high tech performance tested one to 11.97 at 118 in cooler weather with a BONE stock 04 z. stock tires and filter.
heres the list for stock and CAI/drag radial C5 Z06 1/4mile records
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...26&postcount=1
another link to same thing
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1132866
ranger has that record too it seems...11.81 at 117 with a 1.78 60foot
rewiring the fans does nothing. the engine might have been gettin HOT and the fans turning on earlier will help keep it cooler...BUT if you get to the track earlier and let the car chill down and ice the manifold, it will stay cold by the time you get to the line. i know this cuz i have done it. before and after runs with fan switch wiring and without. ice and without. keepin the engine cool makes ur run faster. i noticed a .1 gain. so by giving the car hours to cool down, or using fans, or iceing, it all acomplishes the same goal.
so a stock C5 z06 can do high 11s. its tricky, definately not for everyone, but it has been done.
and stock C5 Ls1's have hit high 12s. stock Fbodies have hit 12.9x to 13.0s bone stock. my track has a catback/lid car on bald nittos doing mid 12s at 110mph. street tires he did 13.1-13.3s at 109. and vettes weight around 200lbs lighter than a fbody. thats 2 tenths and near 2mph difference. my 170 lb passenger slowed my car down 1.5mph and 2 tenths exactly
and the C6 Z06 is 11.3 stock tires..11.2 with drag radials
from ranger himself
On drag radials
1st pass: 12.79 MIR day 1 clutch pedal hung on launch
2d pass: 11.60 MIR day 1
3d pass: 11.70 MIR day 1
4th pass: 11.58 MIR day 1 figured out the need to manage coolant temp
5th pass: 11.31 MIR day 1
6th pass: 11.65 MIR day 1 clutch pedal hung on launch
7th pass: 11.38 Capitol day 2
8th pass: 11.36 Capitol day 2
9th pass: 11.28 Capitol day 2
10th pass: 11.20 Capitol day 2
I then ran 8 straight passes on stock tires.
On stock tires
1st pass: 11.48 MIR day 3
2d pass: 11.40 MIR day 3
3d pass: 11.34 Cecil day 4
4th pass: 11.50 Cecil day 4
5th pass: 11.58 Capitol day 5 street night, damp launch area
6th pass: 11.69 Capitol day 5 street night, damp launch area
7th pass: 11.38 Cecil day 6
8th pass: 11.31 Cecil day 6
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I saw an early 90's CRX beat a C6 Z06 in the 1/8th mile about 4 weeks ago. The C6 wasn't stock, but had unknown mods. It left after being beaten. The CRX was turbo charged, with slicks, thats all I could tell from my vantage point as I was too busy tuning my car, but the licence plate said something like 691HPCRX. According to some of the people there, the car runs low 10's in the 1/4.
But I bet it had less torque than the C6.
But I bet it had less torque than the C6.
torque.
period
period
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my buddies acura integra put down 513whp on a gt30r b18. car only made 334wtq. my 230whp L98 makes 300+wtq!! LOL
its all about where u make torque. not always how much u make
its all about where u make torque. not always how much u make
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boost doesnt make torque of the line the zo6 will, but we all know the truth..... its not the cars.. its how much money was put into the car
I'm no honda fan, in fact I generaly think that modifiying hondas is a bad idea (the way its usually done). but even with the really nice paint job that honda could have been built for under 15K, thats a hell of a lot less than any late model vette.
The race wasn't even close. It was pretty awesome if you like to root for the underdog.
'd rather have a new Z06 though than a 500+ whp FWD econo car.
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Originally Posted by slo
That was kinda the point, torque doesn't make a car fast it makes a car fun. HP makes a car fast.
I'm no honda fan, in fact I generaly think that modifiying hondas is a bad idea (the way its usually done). but even with the really nice paint job that honda could have been built for under 15K, thats a hell of a lot less than any late model vette.
The race wasn't even close. It was pretty awesome if you like to root for the underdog.
Me too, but if I had the money, I would buy an airplane instead
I'm no honda fan, in fact I generaly think that modifiying hondas is a bad idea (the way its usually done). but even with the really nice paint job that honda could have been built for under 15K, thats a hell of a lot less than any late model vette.
The race wasn't even close. It was pretty awesome if you like to root for the underdog.
Me too, but if I had the money, I would buy an airplane instead
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I didn't say the honda was gutted. I didn't see inside it, it looked allmost stock from the outside except for the slicks. If it really had that much power it wouldn't need to be gutted.
The crx would get better gas mileage (but it would be close).
Neither a Z06 or a CRX would be comfortable for a coast to coast trip.
In any case it wasn't a comparison it was a race, and the CRX won.
The crx would get better gas mileage (but it would be close).
Neither a Z06 or a CRX would be comfortable for a coast to coast trip.
In any case it wasn't a comparison it was a race, and the CRX won.
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Originally Posted by slo
I didn't say the honda was gutted. I didn't see inside it, it looked allmost stock from the outside except for the slicks. If it really had that much power it wouldn't need to be gutted.
The crx would get better gas mileage (but it would be close).
Neither a Z06 or a CRX would be comfortable for a coast to coast trip.
In any case it wasn't a comparison it was a race, and the CRX won.
The crx would get better gas mileage (but it would be close).
Neither a Z06 or a CRX would be comfortable for a coast to coast trip.
In any case it wasn't a comparison it was a race, and the CRX won.
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Have you ridden in a Z06? They've got a stiffer suspension than a stock C5 or C6 Corvette, but they're far more comfortable than any RX-7 or 240sx I've ever sat in.
Have you ever ridden in an FC, they are far more comfortable than FD's.
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In any case a Z06 is far from a luxury car.
if you want luxary and speed, go ferrari or bmw M5 or something
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Originally Posted by slo
Never been in a Z06, Driving more than 4 hours in anything sucks, thats why I want an airplane. In any case a Z06 is far from a luxury car.
Have you ever ridden in an FC, they are far more comfortable than FD's.
Have you ever ridden in an FC, they are far more comfortable than FD's.
I'm not referring to a luxury car. You must have mistakenly put that into a post of mine where I didn't type it myself. If you want luxury, get a BMW or Mercedes. I'm talking overall package.
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You said something about driving coast to coast back to back between a vette and a CRX. Thats where the luxury car comment came from the point is after the first few hundred miles it wouldn't be fun in either one.
My daily driver is a motorcycle. Being that your in SD I probably passed by you a few times splitting lanes.
My daily driver is a motorcycle. Being that your in SD I probably passed by you a few times splitting lanes.
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Originally Posted by slo
You said something about driving coast to coast back to back between a vette and a CRX. Thats where the luxury car comment came from the point is after the first few hundred miles it wouldn't be fun in either one.
My daily driver is a motorcycle. Being that your in SD I probably passed by you a few times splitting lanes.
My daily driver is a motorcycle. Being that your in SD I probably passed by you a few times splitting lanes.
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If you havnt ran him...(didnt read the whole thread) You should beat him. I have a gt40r fd on 13 psi only making about 370hp with a 119..120mph trap times and i ran into a stock z06 the other day and we went from 60 and he jumped about a car and by the end of 3rd/middle of 4th i had 2 cars on him. Good luck
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i have driven the z06 that i raced in this thread many times. both on the shot and off the shot. it is one hell of a machine. its much much more comfortable than my 7. its extremely comfortable over bumbs which is amazing since it also handles so firmly. its really an awesome car for the road or track. Having said that i still would take my fd with the koni yellows and eibach springs. its miserable over bumps but the car feels like a friggen race car. it is so much more fun to drive its ridiculous. I can definately feel the size of the vette when driving it. my car feels like a shifter cart when i get back in it. i respect the balance that the z06 offers, it truly is amazing. but my fd just feels a hell of alot more nimble and racey feeling to me. i do think the fd is an aquired taste though.
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its extremely comfortable over bumbs which is amazing since it also handles so firmly. its really an awesome car for the road or track. Having said that i still would take my fd with the koni yellows and eibach springs.
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