matty

both of u guys are on crack..

1)stock fds def run 13s. just cause most of the ones outthere these days are owned by 16 yr old little punks that ruin their cars doesnt mean a properly running car cant. my car ran 13.7 stock and 12.4 with intake, exhauist, 12psi.

2)Bone stock z06s run 11s when beat on by a good driver. if u dont beleive me go to the z06 forum and check...watch their vids and see their time slips. this subject has been beaten to death. if u cant accept it go cry somewhere else.

rt turbo

i agree that the fd does run 13's stock... but your wayw way off... your thinking of a c6 zo6. they run high 11's. a stock c5 z06 DOES NOT run 11s!!.. I lived for 6 years in the same town the vette is produced. at beech bend raceway ive seen everything run! i went every weekend... i saw road and track, motor trend, etc., run these cars there... none were close to 11s! Ive been to every z06/ corvette weekend at beech bend raceway, were almost every vette owner goes to... guess what, no where near 11's. thats where i saw the best time of 12.29. if you look on those z06 forums, those guys are running tires that they dont mention. they consider drag radials street tires because they are street legal... thats not stock! you can beat the ever loveing **** out of that car, but on stock tires, it doesnt run 11's. and if it does, the driver is not tell the whole story about the car.

case and point: there was a video of a c6 z06 running 11.49 and was supposedly "bone stock." The vidoe was taken at beech bend raceway and i just happened to be there and saw it run. It was no where close to stock... it had aftermarket wheels with drag radials, a full exhaust, intake, and God only knows what else. The concensus that day from everyone was that it takes very little to make it a low 11 second car. everyone knew it was modded... it shows up on streetfire and the owner cliams it was bone stock. it circulates all over the z06 forum as, "look what a bone stock z06 can do." but i know for a fact it was not stock... i was there when it ran, i saw it in person... it was moddified.

^that is how these things get started, and it seems every domestic forum is full of it! 03 cobras running 11's bone stock... ive even seen one about a stock c5 vette running 11's. its bs. there is always another story to it. There was another one of a 03 cobra running 11's and it came out he had shaved the pully with a laith to amke it smaller, gutted 1 set of cats, and poored track-bite over the tires... he cut a 1.7x 60ft and was up 40 or so hp. once again, its bullshit because its not stock. yes, very little mods to get into 11's. but a lie.

matty

go to z06vette forum with that comment...i will join...send me a link once u post it. it was hard for me to swallow as well. given that i too have witnessed low 12s myself. but like i said go to their forum and post that. u will get flamed out fo there.

1QWIK7

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Theres something called bad drivers dude.

Thats why if you read some articles and read up some stats on newer cars, times will vary cause the drivers are different. That determines the maximum performance of a car, how well a driver can make it.

A C5 Z06 will in fact, hit 11s in stock form, meaning no power mods. I dont even think tire change and permitted weather conditions make anything more than stock to a car. And that also doesnt mean every single one you see at the track will run an 11 but if you put a good driver in one, you will seee it all day.

rt turbo

jees, i know they believe it whole-heartidly. ive looked through there a few times and posted once a year ago. needless to say they acted like i should be knocked off. one of them challenged me in a race and we did at one of the vette weekends. I was in my evo at the time (which actually ran 11s) and he in his "bone stock 11second z06." this is a street race mind you, and he shows up in none other than... mt et streets. i call him on it, and he bitches saying he spins without them, then takes them off for stock wheels/rubber. I waste him. it was linked to the other forum and the z06 guys wrote it off saying my car was faster than i say it was. the driver and i originally got into it online because he said he ran 11's bone stock and i called bs. my evo was barely an 11 second car, and i ate him up. but no matter what i say, the z06 guys are right. oh well. im not going to get flamed like that again. but i will never buy the 11 second stock z06 thing.

rt turbo

i have literally seen probably 1000's run... not one 11 second run though. but i do not consider tire change stock. will they run 11's with drag radials and beating the living tar out of it?? sure... i have seen that.

JustinStrife

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That's because they DON'T run 11's stock. They run 12's all day long, but 11's not a chance with stock rubber. A C5 Z06 is good for mid 12's, low 12's if everything is perfect. A stock C5 is good for low 13's if you're good and you have the high performance gears. And even then, they usually get eaten up out of the hole by other cars and have to catch up the last half of the race.

Rxmfn7

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I have no doubt in my mind that there have been C5 Z06s run high 11s with 117-119 traps bone stock, as there is alot of online information to "prove" this. However, I do agree that I have never personally seen one come close. I spend a fair amount of time at the drag strip and most run high 12s-low 13s, but Its all driver varibale. Hell, last time I was at the track I beat a C6 Z06 in my bolt-on FD. He ran a 13.1~112.. I didnt even bother posting it here or making a big deal of it because I talked to the guy after his run and it seemed he didnt even know anything about his own car, just an older wealthy guy having some fun. He also had a 2005 viper SRT-10 that he said his best was a 12.6. Some people just dont care too much, and you cant always judge by what you see at the local track.

rt turbo

yes, i understand this. but the track im speaking of is not your regular track as far as vettes are concerned. The corvette plant is literally 1 miles from beech bend raceway. thousands of vette owners make a pilgramage there every year. we get the motorsports for vettes in there, and the best of the best there. ive seen them all. mike dunn could not run an 11 in a c5 z06, what you read on the forums over there may as well be considered tabloids. what im saying is... to each of those original cliamed 11 second runs, there is "massaging" going on with the car. tweaking if you will, tires, trackbite, intakes, cat gutting, ecu tuning, etc. its so commen over there now they believe any schmo who claims an 11 second time because a few guys posted these times in a tweeked car.

matty

well good info either way. i was convinced they run 11s given the stuff i have read on the net.

Mr rx-7 tt

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You obviously aren't a "vette authority". I have friends who have run 11's bone stock in a C5 Z06.

These guys were running in the 11's two years ago.

http://www.z06vette.com/forums/showt...ghlight=11.783

Read it and weep.

http://www.z06vette.com/gallery/data...1_timeslip.jpg

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...26&postcount=1


One guy has run an 11.3 @ 127 with a new bone stock Z06.

Mr rx-7 tt

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Kevin Wyum ran a 13.2 at 101 bone stock. A buddy of mine ran a 13.3 at 100 bone stock. Most of the mags got mid to high 13's at ~100.

http://www.fd3s.net/magazine_article...article03.html

http://www.fd3s.net/magazine_article...ational_1.html

Your C5 did make 90 hp more but weighed 450 more lbs.

Mr rx-7 tt

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Tell it to Ranger, J-Rod and Cam.

rt turbo

see, thats what im talking about! i was at beech bend when this 11.3 second c6 zao6 ran.. yes, the one in the video everyones seen! i was there!! yes it ran that time, NO IT WAS NOT STOCK! it had aftermarket wheels with DRs, xhaust, intake and God only kows what else. he took off after he ran. everyon at the track that day had a consensus it was not stock. only after that video appeared on streetfire was it called "stock." i was there i saw it happen. that **** was bogus.

rt turbo

ha ha, you believe that??? he ran a 1.76 60 ft time on stock rubber??? yeah right. something smellls fishy. funny thing,... thats what i saw z06s cut on DRs...

11SECSTOCKZ06

rt turbo,

I am an experienced drag racer. That said, I have taken my c5z to the track two or three times. The second time on drag tires and knocked down 11.85@117.X. and ran similar numbers several times. I gotta tell ya, I lauched almost at idle and didn't really shift "that" fast. The car could probably go mid 11s if I ran it hard. But STOCK I don't want to kill the axles and clutch. Thats with a completely stock down to the airbox and filter Z06. With a shot of 125hp wet juice, 11.0@127. This is and still is a stock C5Z. I think 1.6 60fts are BS on stock tires ior the track data is wrong and high MPH reports are probably track errors, but in general the car is a high 11sec ride.

Now, that said, I saw a handful of 7's running good times the other day. One had a C6Z engine in it and ran 11.0@130.X, and from what I could see not trying real hard. I like the 7, but whats with the disbelief? I didn't doubt their times. Looked good to me. A good driver will put the c5Z in the 11s everytime and a C6z deep 11s. I know there is ALOT of "hype" on the forums, but I know what my car runs too. If the C6Z really as 100 more hp than my car, its at least a good 1/2 second faster.

As you know, has a lot to do with driver. I don't judge drivers until I go toe to toe at the same track, same day and time.

Zo6vetteman2003

390rwhp is probably in the ballpark with those mods. He is also capable of running in the 11's, but has to be a great driver. Ranger did it all the time with slightly less power in his sold C5ZO6.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1497971
See post number 4 for Ranger. You also get to watch the video of it.

I'm a modded 03' C5ZO6. My setup needs to be redynoed, because the stock clutch couldn't hold the torque peak at 4800rpm but still managed 445rwhp with the clutch slipping at only 5000rpm on a 7200rpm rev. limiter. My power is all up top from 5000rpm on.

rt turbo

it seems this thread was linked already... that was quick.

At least you are civil... some others are definatly not. I had this argument with another c5 zo6 owner awhile back (posted about it above). I ended up meeting him at a vette function in BG and racing him, from a 20mph roll and stop in my evo. as i said he tried to run with DRs, and i called him out because his post was supposed to be on stock rubber. so i made him swap out wheels. i pulled him on the roll a bit, not much, but still decicively. i rocked him from a stop. i ran 11.97 at that time and thats with a 1.7x 60'. 1.7 is cooking even for an awd car. i dont see a z06 on stock rubber even pulling that off. or i never have. the only z06's nearing that ive seen are running other tires. may still be dot legal, but certainly not stock rubber.

the new z06 is a monster, and i believe capable of mid 11s, but at best. the c6 z06 video i was speaking of earlier that ran the 11.3 or 11.4 and is called "stock" all over the net is not stock. i was at beech bend when it ran. it was LOUD, and cut a 1.6 60ft or better. I laughed for awhile when i saw that video show up and evryone was saying" look what a stock c6 zo6 can do." because i was actually at that event and personally saw it run.

the reason i am so skeptical is because i have seen alot of these so called "stock z06's runn 11's in person, and all of them had something done to them. now, i will say that it is very impressive to run that fast with such minimal mods. they are no doubt fast as hell.

matty

interesting b.c my buddy makes 500 rwhp on a 100 wet shot and his clutch holds it. he is running a 150 wet shot now. i drove it yesterday. the clutch holds. car is nuts ont he 150 shot.

matty

yeah lets def keep this civil. for those z06 owners that are logging in now here is a summary:

my 20 yr long friend owns a z06 that has intake, headers, x pipe, borla stingers, some throttle body mod and drag radials (not like they matter from a roll race at our rwhp level) well he wouldnt race me for quite some time bc my car "wasnt worthy". You can see some of his comments that i posted that were directly from one of our im conversations. I started this thread for him to hear from people other than me that our cars are quite comperable. After three yrs of calling my car a piece of **** he finally agreed to race me. we raced from 35-40mph to 145mph. i handed him his ***.

my mods are all the boltons. stock twins stock turbos...with 14psi for our race.

Now the conversation in the thread has turned to can stock z06s run 11s. so as u can see the thread is off subject alittle.

Mr rx-7 tt

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You don't know what you are talking about. It was BONE STOCK! He didn't leave after his run either.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...39&postcount=2

Mr rx-7 tt

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Don't assume that because somone didn't do it at your track in front of you it can't be done. Not only can it be done it has been done. Just because you also saw a guy in a modded Z06 run 11.3 doesn't mean that it's the same guy either. It's obviously not the same car or guy.

Ranger ran an 11.3 @ 127 BONE STOCK in an 06 Z06. He also ran in the 11's with a BONE STOCK C5 Z06.

rt turbo

thats not the car im talking about. i havent seen anything from that car. he was not at beech bend.

rt turbo

btw, try to be civil. k

DerekX7

Its alright guys like that think if it dont have a V8 it not fast but he will no something soon of what a rotary can do