360 rwhp rx7 vs z06
07-31-06, 08:54 PM
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360 rwhp rx7 vs z06
my buddy wont race me. he claims thats i am "ScXstantinib: you are not a worthy opponent". i know this is childish but i want him to see some others input so that he will race me so i can shut him up and show him that our cars are very comparable. he gives the 7s no respect at all zero. both in handling or accleration. its terible. its constant **** talking and its fustrating cause the facts are so clear to me.
my rx7 makes 360 rwhp on the stock sequentials and weighs 2725 as per etown scales which yields a trap of 118mph. he also says that my car cant go 11s with that trap! i been only able to get 12.2s with that as i am running stock tires.
his 03' z06 has intake, headers, exhaust. and he claims it makes 390 rwhp.
my rx7 makes 360 rwhp on the stock sequentials and weighs 2725 as per etown scales which yields a trap of 118mph. he also says that my car cant go 11s with that trap! i been only able to get 12.2s with that as i am running stock tires.
his 03' z06 has intake, headers, exhaust. and he claims it makes 390 rwhp.
07-31-06, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by matty
his 03' z06 has intake, headers, exhaust. and he claims it makes 390 rwhp.
he's on an LS6 which were rated at 400-405rwhp, but they only put down about 365ish and it is modded; those engines respond very well to "minor" bolt ons.
all in all, it should be a good race.
08-01-06, 10:17 AM
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Obviously knows very little about cars if he does not give the 7 any respect.
Thus he is probably a terrible driver and will lose anyway. So tell him if he won't race then he can't ****-talk. It sounds like he is actually scared to race you because it will shatter his ego to lose now.
Thus he is probably a terrible driver and will lose anyway. So tell him if he won't race then he can't ****-talk. It sounds like he is actually scared to race you because it will shatter his ego to lose now.
08-01-06, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by BOTTLEFED
Obviously knows very little about cars if he does not give the 7 any respect.
Thus he is probably a terrible driver and will lose anyway. So tell him if he won't race then he can't ****-talk. It sounds like he is actually scared to race you because it will shatter his ego to lose now.
Thus he is probably a terrible driver and will lose anyway. So tell him if he won't race then he can't ****-talk. It sounds like he is actually scared to race you because it will shatter his ego to lose now.
i think thats the reason that this thread isnt getting many posts...cause people spot an idiot and dont want to bother.
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08-01-06, 03:03 PM
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wow thats a pretty good analysis. dead on. i guess its pretty obvious. he is the ultimate hater.
i think thats the reason that this thread isnt getting many posts...cause people spot an idiot and dont want to bother.
i think thats the reason that this thread isnt getting many posts...cause people spot an idiot and dont want to bother.
yeah I'd say he is just trying to get you riled up. IMO he knows that he has something to fear but camoflashes his insecurity by being cocky. The only way to counteract that tactic is to run for money. Nothing big but big enough to call his bluff. $100 bucks is a good number. That will pay for a decent dinner with the GF and who could say no to that? Unless they are afraid to lose. I mean, I will gladly take out my woman on someone else's tab lol.
Now if he declines, you can go ahead and tell everyone that you both know how he is afraid to run you. That's how you turn the tables since now you are the annoyer rather than the annoyee lol.
my $.02
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08-01-06, 04:02 PM
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bottom line.... he's chicken **** that his v8 will lose to a 1.3L rotary. think about it, if i knew i could smoke someone that kept pestering me i would give it to him all nite, then tell him his car is shiity slow! so tell him to put up ore Shut up!
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ummm.... what altitude are you at? or were those times in the summer heat? 360whp and 2700lbs will trap higher than 118.. i would like to think
cuz a C5 Z06 is in the 3100-3200lb range and puts down 370whp stock, and they go 12.0 at 116-117mph in good conditions with good driver. record fastest ones are high 11's at 117-118 in cold weather.
your 500lbs less than that.. you should be 120mph i would say. not too much difference but still a difference. lol
but 118 is good for mid 11's to low 11s depending on your launch. i raced a stang 5.0 on the bottle that pulled a 1.71 60 foot and ran 11.87 at 112mph.
390 rwhp seems just abit low for a headers/exhaust/intake LS6. i guess he dont have a tune yet? he should be over 400rwhp by now, atleast with a tune.
either way, you should win if you drive hard. his car is capable of trapping 119-120mph in good weather, which is where i would think you should be unless your at higher altitude, or those times are in the heat, like i mentioned. it will be a close race for alittle while, but you should win since your so much lighter than he is.. his 30rwhp advantage isnt enough to tame 400lbs
cuz a C5 Z06 is in the 3100-3200lb range and puts down 370whp stock, and they go 12.0 at 116-117mph in good conditions with good driver. record fastest ones are high 11's at 117-118 in cold weather.
your 500lbs less than that.. you should be 120mph i would say. not too much difference but still a difference. lol
but 118 is good for mid 11's to low 11s depending on your launch. i raced a stang 5.0 on the bottle that pulled a 1.71 60 foot and ran 11.87 at 112mph.
390 rwhp seems just abit low for a headers/exhaust/intake LS6. i guess he dont have a tune yet? he should be over 400rwhp by now, atleast with a tune.
either way, you should win if you drive hard. his car is capable of trapping 119-120mph in good weather, which is where i would think you should be unless your at higher altitude, or those times are in the heat, like i mentioned. it will be a close race for alittle while, but you should win since your so much lighter than he is.. his 30rwhp advantage isnt enough to tame 400lbs
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If your FD is sequential with good flat torque and 360 wheel HP on a load bearing dyno like a Dynodynamics or Mustang dyno you'll murder a stock 2003 Z06 from a roll. If you're talking about Dynojet wheel HP it might be close.
I purchased a 2003 Z06 with 600 miles on it for the purpose of testing the car. I'm quite good with shifting in the 1/5 second range given cars of the type, both FDs and Z06s.
If you can drive as good as the runs below you should beat a Z06 if the guy is a poor to average driver. You can look at the Gs vs time and HP vs time pages below to see it takes less HP in an FD to accelerate faster than the Z06. The given HP figures would be more of a net HP given wind, tire drag and such. Dyno numbers of any type are higer. The FD in the run was around 300 wheel HP on a Dynodynamics load bearing dyno which would be a higher numer on a Dynojet. It's all realtive.
I drove and tested both cars myself in the same location. The FD granted is near impossible to hook up on 18 inch street tires which gives the Z06 an advantage at start. You can look at split times on the right of the speed graph below to give you a good idea of what's up.
Elevation for the testing was 1400 ft with weather conditions in the 28.8 range for pressure, dry cool air. The FD was stock engine, stock sequential twins, Power FC 11 to12 psi, DP, MP, CB, fuel pump. The Z06 was stock.
I purchased a 2003 Z06 with 600 miles on it for the purpose of testing the car. I'm quite good with shifting in the 1/5 second range given cars of the type, both FDs and Z06s.
If you can drive as good as the runs below you should beat a Z06 if the guy is a poor to average driver. You can look at the Gs vs time and HP vs time pages below to see it takes less HP in an FD to accelerate faster than the Z06. The given HP figures would be more of a net HP given wind, tire drag and such. Dyno numbers of any type are higer. The FD in the run was around 300 wheel HP on a Dynodynamics load bearing dyno which would be a higher numer on a Dynojet. It's all realtive.
I drove and tested both cars myself in the same location. The FD granted is near impossible to hook up on 18 inch street tires which gives the Z06 an advantage at start. You can look at split times on the right of the speed graph below to give you a good idea of what's up.
Elevation for the testing was 1400 ft with weather conditions in the 28.8 range for pressure, dry cool air. The FD was stock engine, stock sequential twins, Power FC 11 to12 psi, DP, MP, CB, fuel pump. The Z06 was stock.
08-01-06, 05:49 PM
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I drove and tested both cars myself in the same location. The FD granted is near impossible to hook up on 18 inch street tires which gives the Z06 an advantage at start
08-01-06, 08:24 PM
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good post but 360rwhp is usually right around 118mph in a fd rx7.
Originally Posted by Orr89rocz
ummm.... what altitude are you at? or were those times in the summer heat? 360whp and 2700lbs will trap higher than 118.. i would like to think
cuz a C5 Z06 is in the 3100-3200lb range and puts down 370whp stock, and they go 12.0 at 116-117mph in good conditions with good driver. record fastest ones are high 11's at 117-118 in cold weather.
your 500lbs less than that.. you should be 120mph i would say. not too much difference but still a difference. lol
but 118 is good for mid 11's to low 11s depending on your launch. i raced a stang 5.0 on the bottle that pulled a 1.71 60 foot and ran 11.87 at 112mph.
390 rwhp seems just abit low for a headers/exhaust/intake LS6. i guess he dont have a tune yet? he should be over 400rwhp by now, atleast with a tune.
either way, you should win if you drive hard. his car is capable of trapping 119-120mph in good weather, which is where i would think you should be unless your at higher altitude, or those times are in the heat, like i mentioned. it will be a close race for alittle while, but you should win since your so much lighter than he is.. his 30rwhp advantage isnt enough to tame 400lbs
cuz a C5 Z06 is in the 3100-3200lb range and puts down 370whp stock, and they go 12.0 at 116-117mph in good conditions with good driver. record fastest ones are high 11's at 117-118 in cold weather.
your 500lbs less than that.. you should be 120mph i would say. not too much difference but still a difference. lol
but 118 is good for mid 11's to low 11s depending on your launch. i raced a stang 5.0 on the bottle that pulled a 1.71 60 foot and ran 11.87 at 112mph.
390 rwhp seems just abit low for a headers/exhaust/intake LS6. i guess he dont have a tune yet? he should be over 400rwhp by now, atleast with a tune.
either way, you should win if you drive hard. his car is capable of trapping 119-120mph in good weather, which is where i would think you should be unless your at higher altitude, or those times are in the heat, like i mentioned. it will be a close race for alittle while, but you should win since your so much lighter than he is.. his 30rwhp advantage isnt enough to tame 400lbs
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thanks... i was just curious... theres absolutely nothing wrong with 118mph.. just figured it might be a tad higher than that based on a few other cars i seen with similar power to weight. still good enough to run with if not pull on a full exhaust Z06
08-01-06, 08:43 PM
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thanks... i was just curious... theres absolutely nothing wrong with 118mph.. just figured it might be a tad higher than that based on a few other cars i seen with similar power to weight. still good enough to run with if not pull on a full exhaust Z06
yeah i think it would be a great race. very very close. but the not worthy comment is just wrong.
08-01-06, 09:02 PM
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after reading this thread he said he will race me but only at track...which i can appreciate. he just needs to wake up and look at the facts. i dont claim to be faster...all i claim is that the cars are very evenly matched.
his best run off nos is 12.4. but on nos he got 11.34. he also has dr while i have stock tires. meanwhile i go 12.2 just about eveyrtime. so once he beats that i will consider going again. just fiustrated i cant do better unless i get the proper tire
his best run off nos is 12.4. but on nos he got 11.34. he also has dr while i have stock tires. meanwhile i go 12.2 just about eveyrtime. so once he beats that i will consider going again. just fiustrated i cant do better unless i get the proper tire
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good..let us know how it turns out.
problem with track racing tho, is that one car can get to the finish line first but have a time slip showing a slower ET! lol
it comes down to the reaction time. make sure you both are ready to go and both try to get the best reaction time you can. see what happens. lol if you beat him but he shows a better time slip, you'll probly be hearing excuses and "my car is still faster than yours". which technically, he would be right. LOL
problem with track racing tho, is that one car can get to the finish line first but have a time slip showing a slower ET! lol
it comes down to the reaction time. make sure you both are ready to go and both try to get the best reaction time you can. see what happens. lol if you beat him but he shows a better time slip, you'll probly be hearing excuses and "my car is still faster than yours". which technically, he would be right. LOL
08-01-06, 09:09 PM
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good..let us know how it turns out.
problem with track racing tho, is that one car can get to the finish line first but have a time slip showing a slower ET! lol
it comes down to the reaction time. make sure you both are ready to go and both try to get the best reaction time you can. see what happens. lol if you beat him but he shows a better time slip, you'll probly be hearing excuses and "my car is still faster than yours". which technically, he would be right. LOL
problem with track racing tho, is that one car can get to the finish line first but have a time slip showing a slower ET! lol
it comes down to the reaction time. make sure you both are ready to go and both try to get the best reaction time you can. see what happens. lol if you beat him but he shows a better time slip, you'll probly be hearing excuses and "my car is still faster than yours". which technically, he would be right. LOL
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no it does not effect ET at all
but when two cars race from a dig.. if he leaves first with a .300 reaction time and runs 12.2 at 118mph and the Z06 leaves with a .500 reaction time but runs a 11.9 at 118mph, the slower 12.2 car could still win. the slips would show the Z06 being the faster car, but the rx7 got to the line first so it gets the win
but when two cars race from a dig.. if he leaves first with a .300 reaction time and runs 12.2 at 118mph and the Z06 leaves with a .500 reaction time but runs a 11.9 at 118mph, the slower 12.2 car could still win. the slips would show the Z06 being the faster car, but the rx7 got to the line first so it gets the win
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Originally Posted by greg schroeder
If your FD is sequential with good flat torque and 360 wheel HP on a load bearing dyno like a Dynodynamics or Mustang dyno you'll murder a stock 2003 Z06 from a roll. If you're talking about Dynojet wheel HP it might be close.
I purchased a 2003 Z06 with 600 miles on it for the purpose of testing the car. I'm quite good with shifting in the 1/5 second range given cars of the type, both FDs and Z06s.
If you can drive as good as the runs below you should beat a Z06 if the guy is a poor to average driver. You can look at the Gs vs time and HP vs time pages below to see it takes less HP in an FD to accelerate faster than the Z06. The given HP figures would be more of a net HP given wind, tire drag and such. Dyno numbers of any type are higer. The FD in the run was around 300 wheel HP on a Dynodynamics load bearing dyno which would be a higher numer on a Dynojet. It's all realtive.
I drove and tested both cars myself in the same location. The FD granted is near impossible to hook up on 18 inch street tires which gives the Z06 an advantage at start. You can look at split times on the right of the speed graph below to give you a good idea of what's up.
Elevation for the testing was 1400 ft with weather conditions in the 28.8 range for pressure, dry cool air. The FD was stock engine, stock sequential twins, Power FC 11 to12 psi, DP, MP, CB, fuel pump. The Z06 was stock.
I purchased a 2003 Z06 with 600 miles on it for the purpose of testing the car. I'm quite good with shifting in the 1/5 second range given cars of the type, both FDs and Z06s.
If you can drive as good as the runs below you should beat a Z06 if the guy is a poor to average driver. You can look at the Gs vs time and HP vs time pages below to see it takes less HP in an FD to accelerate faster than the Z06. The given HP figures would be more of a net HP given wind, tire drag and such. Dyno numbers of any type are higer. The FD in the run was around 300 wheel HP on a Dynodynamics load bearing dyno which would be a higher numer on a Dynojet. It's all realtive.
I drove and tested both cars myself in the same location. The FD granted is near impossible to hook up on 18 inch street tires which gives the Z06 an advantage at start. You can look at split times on the right of the speed graph below to give you a good idea of what's up.
Elevation for the testing was 1400 ft with weather conditions in the 28.8 range for pressure, dry cool air. The FD was stock engine, stock sequential twins, Power FC 11 to12 psi, DP, MP, CB, fuel pump. The Z06 was stock.
Carry on...
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Originally Posted by matty
my buddy wont race me. he claims thats i am "ScXstantinib: you are not a worthy opponent". i know this is childish but i want him to see some others input so that he will race me so i can shut him up and show him that our cars are very comparable. he gives the 7s no respect at all zero. both in handling or accleration. its terible. its constant **** talking and its fustrating cause the facts are so clear to me.
my rx7 makes 360 rwhp on the stock sequentials and weighs 2725 as per etown scales which yields a trap of 118mph. he also says that my car cant go 11s with that trap! i been only able to get 12.2s with that as i am running stock tires.
his 03' z06 has intake, headers, exhaust. and he claims it makes 390 rwhp.
my rx7 makes 360 rwhp on the stock sequentials and weighs 2725 as per etown scales which yields a trap of 118mph. he also says that my car cant go 11s with that trap! i been only able to get 12.2s with that as i am running stock tires.
his 03' z06 has intake, headers, exhaust. and he claims it makes 390 rwhp.
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