Valkyrie

Soo... I tried to see if I could get my rear end to come out (so to speak...) and all it wanted to do was grip and grip and grip.

I also tried the handbrake but it didn't seem to even work. I think maybe I need to adjust it.

For some reason I get the feeling I'd have to be going waaaay faster to get it to drift... but seeing as how I'm doing this in my neighborhood I don't want to try much harder.

Although I DID get it to get a little sideways by flooring it while turning around in a Cul De Sac (which was fun...)

fc.fanatic

try in the rain, or when the streets are soaked from a previous rain storm, its sooooo fun, but make sure there isnt jack **** to hit, i made that mistake once. but yea, find an open lot and test your skills. start off from in 3rd going semi slow, downshift to second hit the gass and turn, you should slide with ease, or just handbrake it. if you wana have alot of fun, make sure u have alot of space, go fast foward and pull the handbrake and turn one direction, u will start to do 360's. i havent tried any of this on dry road tho, cuz im not trying to kill my tires. but be safe and have fun.

Built GXL

if your car has lsd, you shouldn't have a problem, my FC has open diff. and i can still pitch it sideways with out the hand brake.

Valkyrie

Come to think of it, I think you're supposed to clutch in when you use the handbrake...

spot_skater

Yes, you are.

And clutch kick rollin in 2nd and cut the wheel hard at the same time. The rear end will break loose and then you can countersteer, and hold it for however long you can. I used to get sideways all the time in my 88 base, with open differential.
Haven't really tried so much since I put LSD in it, though.

TechTrix

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yes, you do... you do it like this
1: accelerate (do it in a low gear, 1st or 2nd, till you have some skill)
2:clutch in
3:turn in slightly and pull ebrake
4:ebrake down, clutch out, back to throttle, counter steer

ebrakeing is an easy way to learn how to drift, i usualy just use weight transfers, or a clutch pop to get it going

you have to figure out the rest like how much throttle to add, how much counter steer etc.
also, dont do this on a residential street, go somewhere safe like an empy lot or industrial
street.

Valkyrie

I had actually tried to use the feint manuever but I guess on a dry surface you've gotta be going fast... plus you need to use the clutch apparently.

Valkyrie

It rained today

Soo... I went and found a small empty parking lot in the middle of nowhere (behind the kindergarten ) and did 360s... it was fun. I didn't have to even rev it that high since it was wet (no LSD though).

I did try the handbrake on my street but still very little effect. It seemed to work in the lot to make it do a 90-degree turn but I had to yank the crap out of it.

I need to work on controlling the steering...since it changes a lot due to the variable power steering effort. Also, the car seems to studder a lot when you steer to much and understeer.

KeloidJonesJr.

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Don't blame your sucky driving at the car or the weather. All you have room for is yourself. Just man it up and pull the ebrake!
haha what kind of technique is that? e-brake/clutch-kick? You can do both at the same time? lol

TechTrix

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so your saying you dont push your clutch in when you ebrake? i dont know about your car, but my ebrake isint strong enough to lock up my wheels and my engine, and even if it could why would i want to do that??? what are you talking about? i never said rev the engine up and pop the clutch hard...

carsaregood

that's just simply an ebrake initiated drift.

clutch-kicking is where you don't pull the ebrake, but quickly kick the clutch pedal in and out to shock the drivetrain/tires to get them to start spinning.

FCdr1fter

there are a number of ways to drift, when u gt on the throttle and the car oversteered or the rea end swung out a little that's what u call power over it involves getting on the gas and typically only works for FR, MR, and 4WD setups the RX-7 should do this with ease becasue of it's light weight and good power distribution, this is more difficult for AWD and bascially impossibe for FF because they accelerate through the front wheels and steer at the same time also the engine weight at the front creates alot of understeer issues

Here are somethings u can try out

1) E-brake
get a good speed and pull the ebrake simultaneously as u turn, the motion ebrake should be quick u'll loose speed by holding the brake plus u'll wear out ur tires quicker, u just want to initiate sudden oversteer, then get ready to counter steer as soon as u pull, typically u'll have to countersteer sooner than u think in order to prevent the car from spinnig out in almost all cases but there are exceptions.

2) try feinting(with more experience u'll soon use this for dori dori's the side to side motion u see the pros do) , I learned this really well when I raced gokarts, plus alot of my friends drive Hatch back civics so that also helped, FF cars hanlde this move the best because it's incredibly difficult to get them to spin out with this motiton, bascially ur using the laws of inertia to shift the wieght of the car from one side to another creating oversteer u'll learn alot about countersteering with this move remember to counter early< sooner than u think> anticipate it

3) is the clutch kick
this involves kicking the clutch to send the rpms up and create a sudden shock, maneuver as u do it and the car should hook up( a popular move really quick way to get sidewayz)

4) shift lock
this is for more seasoned drivers as u'll have to learn heel to toe downshifting to perfect this basically upon entry to the corner or w/e turn u want to make u downshift to a good low gear( not too low tho u may over rev, but if u have a misfire or rev limit system u can utilize the lowest gear but it's severe wear and tear on the tranny not recommended) once u depress the clutch, brake lightly, and swing ur brake foot while still on the brake and ur clutch foot on the clutch and rev the car with the throttle, this is called heel to toe once u have a good rpm downshift to the proper gear and let off the car will grip hard and u'll want to turn quickly so the rear kicks out if ur timing is off then the car will basically grip the pavement

5) Lift off
this is where u lift off the gas upon entry into a turn and just turn hard ( u have to have a really good speed tho this rarely works at low speed)


6) finally the braking drift is self expanitory however u'll need to upgrade ur suspension and barkes to do this. simple slotted and drilled rotors in the front and rear should make things easier and reduce brake wear and fade

FCdr1fter

sorry if u already know the terms i just thought I'd do a thorough explaination

crassfc3s

yeah and listen to him because he is drift king "my car just spins out alot"

FCdr1fter

here we go again it's really pretty old now

socalrotor

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I smell a hater......good post FCdr1fter, beats the hell out of crassfc3s's POINTLESS CRAP.

sintri

lol, my car actually does just spin out alot, apparently even with the new Michelin HydroEdge 205/60, my rear just wants to leave the pavement, most of the time it's when I'm trying to make a yellow light turn with no one else around and on dry pavement lol(course I haven't let it completly spin out not much of a fan of having to buy new tires, only actually had 1 real drifting experience but that was in the rain and I was using completly worn out tires apparently). My car also has a tendency to squeel on parking decks even though I'm turning at like 10 mph, lol, think my car needs a fixing, might just be my front tires giving out a bit. Anyways, point being, it'll drift if you really want it and it'll grip if you really want it to, you just need to know how to utilize each. Used to do this in video games alot, well still do lol, charge into the corner, brake right before, turn + gas, lol, don't really add that much gas in real life but you can hear and feel the back peeling out a bit. Haven't tried the e-brake at all, but I don't have money for new tires... plus "my car (does actually) just spins out alot" as crassfc3s so delicately put it.

N/A here too, wish it was a S5 N/A though, heard those were pretty sweet.

robtechfabrications

yea i like my s5 na...clutch kicks in 2nd work really well for initiation for me...my favorite method...lift off is great for those long sweeping freeway on and off ramps...i shift lock from 3rd to second sometimes...but im still getting used to those...im no pro, just slowly workin on building my skills up

Valkyrie

Well, I tightened my hand brake up a bit...maybe that'll help. lol.

Alex-7

Let me be the first to call you a *** fanboy ricer for drifting in your neighborhood.

I'm glad all the other mad tyte culdisac drifters are giving you pointers though.

You'll be wowing all the neighbors with open diff clutch kicks in front of their house by the time tokyo drift comes out. if you keep working at it.

Valkyrie

I'm not doing it there any more :p

(mainly because some guy yelled at me to slow down )

I only tried to "culdisac drift" because I was curious to see if I could do it once or twice. Now i just need to find a better place to try.

bprotary

you should watch the drifft bible its a grate move with keiichi suchia it will give u a good idea on how to get started

Circuit Theory

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^ wow
enrish you spoke it much?

PS: this thread is ancient!

Qua_Ngheo

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FYI clutch kicking is the same as shift lock. baking drifting is the way to go
the point is to stay in controll at all time. if ur not in controll then ur not drifting. imo

apexhittinbull

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Heel&Toe Rev matching is the exact opposite logic against the shiftlock.
shiftlock works like a side brake pull, as the wheels suddenly locks against the pavement friction via difference in speed between rearwheels and velocity of the car.

and as you'v said, doing this in gumball surface is ticket to break anything in drive train.