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Old 12-12-06, 02:42 AM
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Question need drifting tips and advice

recently i have been testing out my gtu for drifting any tips

1. Would i want more understear or overstear to better handle those corners?
2. what mods sould i do to make my fc float around turns?
3. sould i get after market rims or a lower profile tire a hard tire or a soft?
4. any tips
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First tip...search! haha naw I'm kidding but I know someone will say it. The best thing I can tell you is practice. It's best to learn these things as you go. Experience with different parts, tires (high and low profile). For example, I learned that a taller tire is easier to drift with because the movement of the car is a bit slower and you can control it better, downside is the roll from the softer sidewalls. Low profile is nice cause you don't have the huge sidewall but the car will whip out faster, and if you have low pros up front they would lock up easier. It's things like this you gotta learn on your own by practicing.
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http://fc3spro.com/TECH/DRIFT/dori.html

Lots o' info here.
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Not to belabor the point, but this is a racing forum, and drifting is definitely not racing. (Another thing that learning to use the search function would have revealed.)
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i nice rule i try to live by is DON'T CRASH. if you can get by that you'll do fine.
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i say buy a copy of the Drift Bible and practice.

Originally Posted by Boswoj
Not to belabor the point, but this is a racing forum, and drifting is definitely not racing. (Another thing that learning to use the search function would have revealed.)
i believe the title of this sub forum clearely says
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Talk about your Drifts, Autocross, and Drag techniques in here only!!! "
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1. you want to be able to oversteer at will, but any more then that isnt needed, too much will just be uncontrolable
2. You should learn how to make it float with good steering and throttling techniques
3. You dont need wheels, get low profile tires for better response and soft tires (max or ultra summer tires)have a more gradual and controllable slip but cost more while wearing out much much faster, its a tradeoff, anything with a treadwear above 300 is not worth your money though
4. Try it out on a track please, testing limits is dangerous enough, losing control on purpose on public roadways is borderline insane. Practicing grip first will teach you how to read the limits, sense what the tires are doing and will be doing, etc. Then when you try to drift, all you have to do is feed the rear tires more then they can handle and you are drifting
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Get soft sticky tires for the front. Since you will suck when you first start drifting haveing super high quality tires in the rear is not needed. Just get some cheap tires, with a relativly low profile. Keep the tire pressures high in the back to give you more oversteer, and prevent your tire sidewalls from folding over. You will not very high quality tires in the back, because you will not be able to utalize their potential when you first start. You will lack the skills to actualy feel the bennifits of the consistant traction.

Best of luck.
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the main mods

suspension: spring, shocks, strut bar, sway bar
brakes: rotors, calipers, and good pads
motor:exhaust, intake,internals, turbo(these are not needed)

tires are good but only after you learn, and you should learn to drift be fore you start putting a **** load of power on your car. it is really hard when you start, but it is the most fun you can have in a car. anyone who wants to learn the basics shuld get the drift bible, you can get it by google video, it is the best way to learn next to doing it.
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cheap performance/summer tires, a consistent car is very important for a beginner because if the car keeps changing then you would have to adjust your technique to match the car and u wouldn't be able to do that if u just started. Having a consistent car/tire allows you to see a mistake, and change your technique to get predictable results. A non performance tire will overheat fast and wont allow a beginner to sense what they are doing wrong.
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Originally Posted by Sgt.Stinkfist
i say buy a copy of the Drift Bible and practice.
I'll second that
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buy the drift bible and check www.drifting.com

good luck
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This video from you-tube is useful... if you speak Japanese :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMmlT...h=drift%20king
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Originally Posted by 89-gtu-rx
recently i have been testing out my gtu for drifting any tips

1. Would i want more understear or overstear to better handle those corners?
2. what mods sould i do to make my fc float around turns?
3. sould i get after market rims or a lower profile tire a hard tire or a soft?
4. any tips
1. Your trying to drift, which is oversteering.
2. Search this, you'll be amazed.
3. You could get after market wheels, by themselves they aren't going to help you drift any better, just look better. Hard tires are cheaper, and your going to be burning through tires.
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another thing that will help is lighter wheels in the back will make it easier for your car to break traction. when i go drifting i put my bbs 15's on the back (12lbs). i used to run those on all 4 corners til i got my advans...i DEFINATELY like having a larger wheel and low profile tire up front. with the sidewall flex of 205/55/15s up front sometimes it just doesnt turn in like you want up front the sidewalls buck and you slide which makes it unpredictable. but with 215/45/17s up front its a lot more predictable...but what works for one person doesnt always work for another so you need to practice and find what works best for you. and get a copy of the drift bible, it's called the drift bible for a reason
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Honestly, The best way to learn drift techniques is to run gymkhana. The only thing you have to focus on running a gymkhana course is steering, manuvering, throttle control and braking. The whole course is usually done in the first gear. Other than that, just keep practicing. Watching videos will only make you want to drive more often. A friend of mine back in Japan once told me, "Nobody wants to crash, but its part of the learning curve. If you worry about crashing, then drift isn't for you."

The only thing that sucks about the FC is the steering angle. Im still researching on how to increase this safely. I had a Drift Tengoku Magazine that discussed this issue. Now that I need it, I cant seem to find it. It was similar to what those guys at FC3Spro were speaking about.

To drift, all you need are:

Manual transmission
LSD (2 way rec. for beginners)
A Pair of *****

When I started drifting, I had a FC. After recking it, I switched to a 180sx. The cars and the parts were cheaper and easy to find. Anyway, I started off on 5 speed manual transmission, 2-way diff, coilovers 9kg front 7kg rear, tie rods, tension bars etc etc. I had my rims which varied from Final Speed to BBS's. I ran 17X9 front with falken or goodyears (215/45/17). Rears I ran 17, 16, or 15s. Various tire sizes. At that time, I was running a stock 180sx with a CA18DET. I was underpowered for high grip tires, so i had to run crap tires in the rear so I could break traction easily. Since Im a fan of racing and not so much on repairs or police, I stayed away from touge spots and hit the tracks. If I did something stupid, at least i was in the right spot to make the mistake.

You should try driving in the rain or snow if you have the luxury. It helps big time. Just drive smart.
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