what do u think of this?
02-21-08, 10:54 AM
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what do u think of this?
decel going into a turn with the brake then fade out the clutch going into the apex so your now braken in gear then let off the brake mid turn or a lil sooner and acel out...
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What do I think of this?
I wonder why someone with a second grade education is apparently asking about techniques to be used behind the wheel of an automobile.
Here are a couple of hints that will help you:
1) Capitalization - It's for everybody, not just the intellectual elite.
2) Punctuation - Many young people consider it an advanced technique. At your current level, you should only attempt it if you want readers over the age of eleven to have some idea about what you are trying to say.
3) Spelling - No real excuse for anyone to spell this badly since you don't even have to learn to spell anymore. Ever heard of spell check?
4) When you re-read this wonderful post, did it even make sense to you the second time?
5) There is a nice section called "race techniques" that is full of people who write just as well as you do. They can hardly wait to discuss crackpot ways to wreck your car using bizzare techniques in over-the-limit situations they should probably never be in. Maybe your post will recieve a better welcome there.
I wonder why someone with a second grade education is apparently asking about techniques to be used behind the wheel of an automobile.
Here are a couple of hints that will help you:
1) Capitalization - It's for everybody, not just the intellectual elite.
2) Punctuation - Many young people consider it an advanced technique. At your current level, you should only attempt it if you want readers over the age of eleven to have some idea about what you are trying to say.
3) Spelling - No real excuse for anyone to spell this badly since you don't even have to learn to spell anymore. Ever heard of spell check?
4) When you re-read this wonderful post, did it even make sense to you the second time?
5) There is a nice section called "race techniques" that is full of people who write just as well as you do. They can hardly wait to discuss crackpot ways to wreck your car using bizzare techniques in over-the-limit situations they should probably never be in. Maybe your post will recieve a better welcome there.
02-21-08, 01:08 PM
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Sorry if i dont use caps or puntuations for that matter... Sorry my spelling isnt the best. most of the time its because i type faster then i think. oh and if coulda found the race trchniques setion i woulda posted there first. Thanks for the reply ill repost this in another section.
If a admin finds this thread plz close it.
If a admin finds this thread plz close it.
02-21-08, 06:55 PM
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What do I think of this?
I wonder why someone with a second grade education is apparently asking about techniques to be used behind the wheel of an automobile.
Here are a couple of hints that will help you:
1) Capitalization - It's for everybody, not just the intellectual elite.
2) Punctuation - Many young people consider it an advanced technique. At your current level, you should only attempt it if you want readers over the age of eleven to have some idea about what you are trying to say.
3) Spelling - No real excuse for anyone to spell this badly since you don't even have to learn to spell anymore. Ever heard of spell check?
4) When you re-read this wonderful post, did it even make sense to you the second time?
5) There is a nice section called "race techniques" that is full of people who write just as well as you do. They can hardly wait to discuss crackpot ways to wreck your car using bizzare techniques in over-the-limit situations they should probably never be in. Maybe your post will recieve a better welcome there.
I wonder why someone with a second grade education is apparently asking about techniques to be used behind the wheel of an automobile.
Here are a couple of hints that will help you:
1) Capitalization - It's for everybody, not just the intellectual elite.
2) Punctuation - Many young people consider it an advanced technique. At your current level, you should only attempt it if you want readers over the age of eleven to have some idea about what you are trying to say.
3) Spelling - No real excuse for anyone to spell this badly since you don't even have to learn to spell anymore. Ever heard of spell check?
4) When you re-read this wonderful post, did it even make sense to you the second time?
5) There is a nice section called "race techniques" that is full of people who write just as well as you do. They can hardly wait to discuss crackpot ways to wreck your car using bizzare techniques in over-the-limit situations they should probably never be in. Maybe your post will recieve a better welcome there.
02-21-08, 08:03 PM
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+ again Bos.
I attempt to support folks asking for the knowledge some of us have. I don't respond to want-to-be's who don't have a clue relative to communication. I read 4sites daily & this site has the worst of the worst overall of all 4 sites. Could it be something to do with age or is it just a lack of common sense. If more people would blister some of these kids maybe they would wise up.
I attempt to support folks asking for the knowledge some of us have. I don't respond to want-to-be's who don't have a clue relative to communication. I read 4sites daily & this site has the worst of the worst overall of all 4 sites. Could it be something to do with age or is it just a lack of common sense. If more people would blister some of these kids maybe they would wise up.
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02-21-08, 08:30 PM
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mazda6guy, I agree, it was a shotgun blast from boswoj. However, when your only form of communication is through your written word, then spelling and grammar are very important. I do not think anyone can make much sense of that first post. So in a tough love kind of way boswoj is helping him, just not in the way the OP initially wanted.
02-21-08, 09:27 PM
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mazda6guy, I agree, it was a shotgun blast from boswoj. However, when your only form of communication is through your written word, then spelling and grammar are very important. I do not think anyone can make much sense of that first post. So in a tough love kind of way boswoj is helping him, just not in the way the OP initially wanted.
02-21-08, 09:35 PM
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rereading his response, that was over the top. I have lurked many a thread here, without posting, afraid of that same response. I guess I am just as guilty in my initial post in this thread.
02-22-08, 12:11 AM
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boswoj u get on every one for there improper sentence structure. u could spend a lifetime on this forum doing it lol. but hey its ur fight lol just thought id comment on my experiances w/ u.
hopefully ur not still holdin a grudge against me from ooooo a year or two ago lol hopefully i see you at a few meets if u go to any or maybe a track day this year, ill be looking for a stripped down fb thats fast right? lol
hopefully ur not still holdin a grudge against me from ooooo a year or two ago lol hopefully i see you at a few meets if u go to any or maybe a track day this year, ill be looking for a stripped down fb thats fast right? lol
02-23-08, 01:56 AM
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First, lets clear a few misunderstandings -
1) I've been on this forum for a loooooong time. I would like to hope that over time I have offered a lot more helpful commentary, experiences, and guidance than I have scathing lessons. In reviewing my postings from the last year I see that I have posted a lot less, and the ratio has moved more strongly towards the kind of post you see above. Am I getting old and cranky or are the people we deal with here getting more annoying? I'll leave that judgement to the reader. I know a lot of the people who post here at least by name and we are mostly pretty ready to help anyone who sounds like they would actually benefit from it. The above post was the best help I could offer for mightymite. His respectful answer leads me to believe he has taken the first step towards being someone we might actually be able to help, but I honestly couldn't figure out what he was trying to say. What I do know is that there is ABUNDANT info on the proper way to manage the weight tranfer to the contact patches on an automobile and it's highly unlikely that he has invented a GOOD new way to get it done. If he is willing to improve his communication skills then perhaps this information can be transmitted to him without him having to learn it from the bottom of a ditch.
2) mazda6guy - Looks like you are an Autocrosser if I interpret your classing and picture correctly. Good for you! Autocrossing is a much better way to develop some car control skills than postulating incomprehensible control sequences on a pretty unsympathetic forum. I endorse your commitment to working on your FB, although I can guarantee that I have a minimum of ten times as much "elbow grease" invested in the development of my SA E-Production roadrace car. In addition to that I volunteer my time and effort as a high performance driving instructor with ICSCC and BMW CCA. Good thing you told me that was your "johnson" because I would have mistaken it for the pinky on a worn out nitrile glove. You were *done* long before you started formulating your brilliant reply there tough guy, but you can definitely put mr. tiny back in your pants before the early bird mistakes it for breakfast.
3) MWMburton - I never hold a grudge. I'm still out at the track whenever I can be. Sign up for a track day with ICSCC, BMW CCA, Porsche Club, Mustang Club, Alfa Club, Corvette Club, etc at Pacific Raceways and I'm more than happy to come out and instruct you. I guarantee you can learn more at ONE of these organization's High Performance Driver Education days than you can in a lifetime of wannabe posting on the internet. If you come to an ICSCC race at Pacific, PIR, Mission, or Spokane there is a fair chance I will be there racing and you are welcome to take a close look at anything you like on my car. I can't let it pass without mention though - you still need to work on your writing skills if you don't want to be percieved as an illiterate pre-teen. How you present yourself is still important if you want respect from people that have actual experiences in life that they might want to share. Writing is pretty important to that image when it is the only way to communicate here.
I come here to communicate with other racers, so we can learn from each other without having to repeat each other's mistakes over and over. Maybe it is selfish, but I DON'T come here to wade through the gibberish posted by illiterate children, street racers, and drifters. I'm usually quite willing to help anyone who doesn't start their relationship with me by wasting my time.
1) I've been on this forum for a loooooong time. I would like to hope that over time I have offered a lot more helpful commentary, experiences, and guidance than I have scathing lessons. In reviewing my postings from the last year I see that I have posted a lot less, and the ratio has moved more strongly towards the kind of post you see above. Am I getting old and cranky or are the people we deal with here getting more annoying? I'll leave that judgement to the reader. I know a lot of the people who post here at least by name and we are mostly pretty ready to help anyone who sounds like they would actually benefit from it. The above post was the best help I could offer for mightymite. His respectful answer leads me to believe he has taken the first step towards being someone we might actually be able to help, but I honestly couldn't figure out what he was trying to say. What I do know is that there is ABUNDANT info on the proper way to manage the weight tranfer to the contact patches on an automobile and it's highly unlikely that he has invented a GOOD new way to get it done. If he is willing to improve his communication skills then perhaps this information can be transmitted to him without him having to learn it from the bottom of a ditch.
2) mazda6guy - Looks like you are an Autocrosser if I interpret your classing and picture correctly. Good for you! Autocrossing is a much better way to develop some car control skills than postulating incomprehensible control sequences on a pretty unsympathetic forum. I endorse your commitment to working on your FB, although I can guarantee that I have a minimum of ten times as much "elbow grease" invested in the development of my SA E-Production roadrace car. In addition to that I volunteer my time and effort as a high performance driving instructor with ICSCC and BMW CCA. Good thing you told me that was your "johnson" because I would have mistaken it for the pinky on a worn out nitrile glove. You were *done* long before you started formulating your brilliant reply there tough guy, but you can definitely put mr. tiny back in your pants before the early bird mistakes it for breakfast.
3) MWMburton - I never hold a grudge. I'm still out at the track whenever I can be. Sign up for a track day with ICSCC, BMW CCA, Porsche Club, Mustang Club, Alfa Club, Corvette Club, etc at Pacific Raceways and I'm more than happy to come out and instruct you. I guarantee you can learn more at ONE of these organization's High Performance Driver Education days than you can in a lifetime of wannabe posting on the internet. If you come to an ICSCC race at Pacific, PIR, Mission, or Spokane there is a fair chance I will be there racing and you are welcome to take a close look at anything you like on my car. I can't let it pass without mention though - you still need to work on your writing skills if you don't want to be percieved as an illiterate pre-teen. How you present yourself is still important if you want respect from people that have actual experiences in life that they might want to share. Writing is pretty important to that image when it is the only way to communicate here.
I come here to communicate with other racers, so we can learn from each other without having to repeat each other's mistakes over and over. Maybe it is selfish, but I DON'T come here to wade through the gibberish posted by illiterate children, street racers, and drifters. I'm usually quite willing to help anyone who doesn't start their relationship with me by wasting my time.
02-23-08, 07:38 AM
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So what if I autox I am still attending schools for club racing. I am willing and ready to help out a member for some advice. If you would help and stop bashing people then it would not have came to this. The kids have to start from somewhere right? Nobody comes out of the womb as being a pro racer like you I guess huh? Now I see what Sterling was talking about with this forum becoming very negative with helping each other out. Sorry as you can tell I was never done especially with peeps like you. If you noticed I did not put "Big Johnson" but I did type in "Johnson" so the size you are correct my friend but it still made you swallow and gargle huh? I am DONE and next time I know who to deal with in this section and with my knowledge I will try and share with other members on here. I will just have to pick up the slack I guess because you are not really a big help on here anyways.
02-23-08, 08:02 AM
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mazda6guy, Boswoj was complimenting you for autoxing.
It is probably the best way to get your feet wet, learn some car control an it really helps you find 'the line'. You only get a few chances on a cone course so you learn to indentify where you need to place your car, that knowledge transfers nicely to the race track.
It is probably the best way to get your feet wet, learn some car control an it really helps you find 'the line'. You only get a few chances on a cone course so you learn to indentify where you need to place your car, that knowledge transfers nicely to the race track.
02-23-08, 09:37 AM
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I agree that proper writing skills are important in a forum such as this one. If you aren't willing to take the time to write a decent post, then why should anybody take the time needed to decipher said post?
On the other hand, sometimes a ball peen hammer is more appropriate than a sledge hammer the first time around. If the poster refuses to listen to your "gentle encouragement", then by all means bring out the big guns.
Boswoj, I felt your reply was appropriate, but a bit harsh. However, even I get a bit pissed off over this matter on occasions...
On the other hand, sometimes a ball peen hammer is more appropriate than a sledge hammer the first time around. If the poster refuses to listen to your "gentle encouragement", then by all means bring out the big guns.
Boswoj, I felt your reply was appropriate, but a bit harsh. However, even I get a bit pissed off over this matter on occasions...
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Signs the Race Car Tech forum is dead....
This thread continuing to exist, especially here. It's already going in the techniques section. Call me guilty for posting here as well but it's pretty sad this is all that is going on.
As I write this, the only posts in the last 72 hours include....
Kid who can't write with some crazy driving ideas
A track day experience
LSD issues - this fits the forum
Someones promoting a track day
Karting - on the RX7 forum?
Pulley for sale
tach output - fits the forum
This thread continuing to exist, especially here. It's already going in the techniques section. Call me guilty for posting here as well but it's pretty sad this is all that is going on.
As I write this, the only posts in the last 72 hours include....
Kid who can't write with some crazy driving ideas
A track day experience
LSD issues - this fits the forum
Someones promoting a track day
Karting - on the RX7 forum?
Pulley for sale
tach output - fits the forum
02-26-08, 01:54 AM
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ok here we go, for boswoj lol
I would love to drive up to the seattle area and attend a track day when you are present. However, at this time my track car is not a track car; it is a non-running car. But sooner than later, I hope, it will be a running car and a fine one at that. When it is track worth I will gladly take it out to PIR and also gather it up for a few trips to your neck of the woods.
Illiterate pre-teen? I resent that, kind sir. I am a young adult of 20 and believe myself to be as near a gentleman as one could possibly hope for with the pop culture of today. I also believe that actions speak louder than words and that it doesn't matter as much to be precise about spelling and grammer on a forum such as this as compared to being face to face with a person. I do, however, see that we cannot all be in such close proximity as you and I are. Why just take a look at "mazda6guy", he is all the way in Maryland. It would be near impossible and certainly unrealistic to arange a meeting between the two of you. Why even attempting to meet with a group of fellow rx-7 drivers from a different state is a difficult enough task.
I was hoping that you would catch my last post and its poor sentence fluency. I just wanted to get a slight chuckle from your reaction because i knew how you would still manage to tie it into you point. But, take a look at the youth of today. We are, by almost any days standard, very disrespectful and have amazingly short attention spands. But, can you blame us? With MTV practically brainwashing us, the youth, with music videos that show no more than 3 seconds a scene and quick bursts of advertisments all around. It's hard not to fall victim to the new society of reality tv, energy drinks and abreviated text messaging. Just look at the cellular phone comercials. They show that abreviations and improper spelling and for lack of a better word, rudeness are funny and cool. Its just like how 70's disco music was too flash and how 60's was too controversial and how the begining of rock and roll was the devil's music. It's just our culture trying to belong to something that is ours, that we can call home. I am sure that when I am your age, that I will undoubtly be correcting the youth on there bad behavior and poor manners.
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I would love to drive up to the seattle area and attend a track day when you are present. However, at this time my track car is not a track car; it is a non-running car. But sooner than later, I hope, it will be a running car and a fine one at that. When it is track worth I will gladly take it out to PIR and also gather it up for a few trips to your neck of the woods.
Illiterate pre-teen? I resent that, kind sir. I am a young adult of 20 and believe myself to be as near a gentleman as one could possibly hope for with the pop culture of today. I also believe that actions speak louder than words and that it doesn't matter as much to be precise about spelling and grammer on a forum such as this as compared to being face to face with a person. I do, however, see that we cannot all be in such close proximity as you and I are. Why just take a look at "mazda6guy", he is all the way in Maryland. It would be near impossible and certainly unrealistic to arange a meeting between the two of you. Why even attempting to meet with a group of fellow rx-7 drivers from a different state is a difficult enough task.
I was hoping that you would catch my last post and its poor sentence fluency. I just wanted to get a slight chuckle from your reaction because i knew how you would still manage to tie it into you point. But, take a look at the youth of today. We are, by almost any days standard, very disrespectful and have amazingly short attention spands. But, can you blame us? With MTV practically brainwashing us, the youth, with music videos that show no more than 3 seconds a scene and quick bursts of advertisments all around. It's hard not to fall victim to the new society of reality tv, energy drinks and abreviated text messaging. Just look at the cellular phone comercials. They show that abreviations and improper spelling and for lack of a better word, rudeness are funny and cool. Its just like how 70's disco music was too flash and how 60's was too controversial and how the begining of rock and roll was the devil's music. It's just our culture trying to belong to something that is ours, that we can call home. I am sure that when I am your age, that I will undoubtly be correcting the youth on there bad behavior and poor manners.
Signed sincerely,
Mitch aka MWMburton
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