Lava Rock Muffler
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Lava Rock Muffler
They are big and heavey. and rattle like crazy, because mazda speed did put Rava rock into the muffler. but I guess this is the price to pay. when MY JIC Racing muffler snap into half when I use only 2 hr....
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The all stainless steel mazda factory racing lava rock muffler is durable and does take 30 dBs off an all out peripheral port race motor.
The packing will melt out of a stainless steel supertrapp and turn into glass klinkers.
The discs on a supertrapp, even stacking 20 of them, will kill the top end power on an all out peripheral port road race rotary engine.
The packing will melt out of a stainless steel supertrapp and turn into glass klinkers.
The discs on a supertrapp, even stacking 20 of them, will kill the top end power on an all out peripheral port road race rotary engine.
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In one of the Racing forums.. not sure which one.. they simply buy the Dynomax I believe... that is riveted on the end cap so it is rebuildable.. and is a Stainless.. Fiberglass packed one. For like 90 or so bucks IIRC.. and Drill out the rivets.. gank the fiberglass.. and then re-pack it themselves with lavarock from Home Depot used on BBQ grilles. Bam Done.
FOOTNOTE... Use GOOD steel rivets.. people mistakenly put in Aluminum I gather.. and it vibrated the rivets out on track and dumped all the rocks for thier competitors to hit.
FOOTNOTE... Use GOOD steel rivets.. people mistakenly put in Aluminum I gather.. and it vibrated the rivets out on track and dumped all the rocks for thier competitors to hit.
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Drive Fast: Again, I have to say that a peripheral ported race engine is way more sensitive to exhaust back pressure than other motors. Too much restriction on a 13B PP motor will reduce it down to the power levels of your 12A JP motor.
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to buy the Lava Rock muffler from Mazda's factory racing parts department:
0000-06-9101-LR 3" inlet and outlet $408.90
http://www.mazdamotorsports.com/wcs...-06-9101-LR.jpg
you must be a real racer, with real printed race track results, in order to buy race parts from Mazda. If you have autocross results sheets or quarter mile slips that you can send them, then you are eligible to register with Mazda and buy their parts at discount prices.
0000-06-9101-LR 3" inlet and outlet $408.90
http://www.mazdamotorsports.com/wcs...-06-9101-LR.jpg
you must be a real racer, with real printed race track results, in order to buy race parts from Mazda. If you have autocross results sheets or quarter mile slips that you can send them, then you are eligible to register with Mazda and buy their parts at discount prices.
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to buy the Lava Rock muffler from Mazda's factory racing parts department:
0000-06-9101-LR 3" inlet and outlet $408.90
http://www.mazdamotorsports.com/wcs...-06-9101-LR.jpg
you must be a real racer, with real printed race track results, in order to buy race parts from Mazda. If you have autocross results sheets or quarter mile slips that you can send them, then you are eligible to register with Mazda and buy their parts at discount prices.
0000-06-9101-LR 3" inlet and outlet $408.90
http://www.mazdamotorsports.com/wcs...-06-9101-LR.jpg
you must be a real racer, with real printed race track results, in order to buy race parts from Mazda. If you have autocross results sheets or quarter mile slips that you can send them, then you are eligible to register with Mazda and buy their parts at discount prices.
That's actually not true, a lot of people think that though. Anyone can buy the race parts, it's only the stock components (with a discount) that you cannot purchase without race results.
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This is on the front page of their website today:
MAZDASPEED Motorsports membership is only available to racers within the U.S. and Canada. Parts are now only available to registered members who are currently racing or building a vehicle for racing.
MAZDASPEED MOTORSPORTS DEVELOPMENT will NO LONGER be selling to non racers. You will need to be a registered member of our program, with current race results, to purchase ANY parts from us. You will also need to log in with a valid ID and password, to view our catalog.
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Peripheral port motors have some pretty tremendous backfires, probably due to the long overlap in port timing. Homemade lava rock oval mufflers will not survive a peripheral port motor under road racing conditions. Been there, done that.
MAZDASPEED Motorsports membership is only available to racers within the U.S. and Canada. Parts are now only available to registered members who are currently racing or building a vehicle for racing.
MAZDASPEED MOTORSPORTS DEVELOPMENT will NO LONGER be selling to non racers. You will need to be a registered member of our program, with current race results, to purchase ANY parts from us. You will also need to log in with a valid ID and password, to view our catalog.
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Peripheral port motors have some pretty tremendous backfires, probably due to the long overlap in port timing. Homemade lava rock oval mufflers will not survive a peripheral port motor under road racing conditions. Been there, done that.
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Muffler
Any body know the part # for this muffler? Can't tell in any of the pictures I've seen. Thanks.
In one of the Racing forums.. not sure which one.. they simply buy the Dynomax I believe... that is riveted on the end cap so it is rebuildable.. and is a Stainless.. Fiberglass packed one. For like 90 or so bucks IIRC.. and Drill out the rivets.. gank the fiberglass.. and then re-pack it themselves with lavarock from Home Depot used on BBQ grilles. Bam Done.
FOOTNOTE... Use GOOD steel rivets.. people mistakenly put in Aluminum I gather.. and it vibrated the rivets out on track and dumped all the rocks for thier competitors to hit.
FOOTNOTE... Use GOOD steel rivets.. people mistakenly put in Aluminum I gather.. and it vibrated the rivets out on track and dumped all the rocks for thier competitors to hit.
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I guess the lava rock muffler from mazdacomp might be ok if you're trying to use it as ballast!! Those things weigh like 40lbs! I'm currently working on building a couple custom mufflers for my own street car, that should quiet it down pretty well and never blow out..
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I have a used Mazda lava rock muffler I removed from a crashed ex- Roger Mandeville peripheral ported engine in a Dave Kent chassis road racing RX-7 about 4 years ago. Richard Sneed was driving and crashed this car at Sebring then. In the crash, it sustained a crease or wrinkle at the inlet side - this can be repaired; this does not hurt performance. It has a heavy stainless case, and is 3" diameter straight thru. Inlet and outlet pipes are 3" stainless. It can withstand the rigors of a 370 hp peripheral port rotary running sustained full throttle application.
I decided to go another route to muffle my race car, so I never used it. It has been stored inside these last four years. I paid $100 + shipping for it four years ago. I will sell it for $100 plus you pay shipping. Terms of sale: you prepay by check or by paypal, then I ship it. No COD. I am at zipcode 35803 in Huntsville, Alabama if you want to try and pre-figure shipping costs. I don't check the PM very often, i recommend that you email me direct at
speedturn at hotmail.com
please put the words "Mazda Muffler" in the subject line so that I can tell you apart from all the spam out there
I decided to go another route to muffle my race car, so I never used it. It has been stored inside these last four years. I paid $100 + shipping for it four years ago. I will sell it for $100 plus you pay shipping. Terms of sale: you prepay by check or by paypal, then I ship it. No COD. I am at zipcode 35803 in Huntsville, Alabama if you want to try and pre-figure shipping costs. I don't check the PM very often, i recommend that you email me direct at
speedturn at hotmail.com
please put the words "Mazda Muffler" in the subject line so that I can tell you apart from all the spam out there
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