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10-26-04, 02:10 PM
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Found a 1:23 lap 
This car is very sick. The track conditions were not that great (lots of misting rain and cold) and the best qualifying time for the NASA big bore class was 1:19s and that class includes some very well sorted cars from Porsche GT3s (best lap time of the day and race leader) to older body style NASCAR stock cars.
I'm heading to VIR in NOV and I just can't wait. If the weather looks good I might have to get some new HOO HOOS
This car is very sick. The track conditions were not that great (lots of misting rain and cold) and the best qualifying time for the NASA big bore class was 1:19s and that class includes some very well sorted cars from Porsche GT3s (best lap time of the day and race leader) to older body style NASCAR stock cars.
I'm heading to VIR in NOV and I just can't wait. If the weather looks good I might have to get some new HOO HOOS
10-26-04, 02:27 PM
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excellent time fritz!!!
i need to get to a track with you next season so I can get some instruction since you really know the chassy well and our track cars are similar (although your is a notch more extream than mine).
I still have interior, only a roll bar, and only run 11-12 psi so far (maybe 320 ro 330 rwhp) and the cars still spanks almost everything out there. Last time at RA only 3 or 4 cars passed me, out of 120. So I'm sure your car, and with you driving (more skilled than me), is a freak show at the events, with only full on race cars/drivers as a challenge.
i need to get to a track with you next season so I can get some instruction since you really know the chassy well and our track cars are similar (although your is a notch more extream than mine).
I still have interior, only a roll bar, and only run 11-12 psi so far (maybe 320 ro 330 rwhp) and the cars still spanks almost everything out there. Last time at RA only 3 or 4 cars passed me, out of 120. So I'm sure your car, and with you driving (more skilled than me), is a freak show at the events, with only full on race cars/drivers as a challenge.
10-26-04, 07:07 PM
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With all the track time your getting I might want you to ride with me
The KB weighs in at 2565 although it may be a bit lighter because I took the strut tower bar off to try to get some more turn in Has a t78 that's boosting 10lbs with no lag below 4k (at speed without traffic of course) and I've yet to go below 4k and that's without using 2nd gear. Also I don't know if you noticed in the vid but the temps are 142 which is too low LOL. Brakes are sqeaking because of the great ducting there as well. This is really one of the best sorted track fds on the planet. 5 days of track time in this car and have noticed very little brake pad wear.
Regarding passing I still get passed but it's usually by a cup car When I was driving the daily driver (bolt ons with 10 to 11lbs of boost) I went to 3 events and the only event that I was passed was with the Porsche group and it was of course the cup cars and this is driving in the instructor group. FDs are really special cars. I can't think of any other car you can get for 15 to 20k and literally outrun most any normal car other than an FD.
Full cage is probably a good idea. On Sunday in the second lap of the big bore race a spec 5 didn't see a red flag and ran into the back of a Porsche then went airborne into the trees taking out 3 or 4 small trees before bouncing back onto the track. The car was the worst I have seen. He walked away wearing a kneck brace.
The KB weighs in at 2565 although it may be a bit lighter because I took the strut tower bar off to try to get some more turn in
Has a t78 that's boosting 10lbs with no lag below 4k (at speed without traffic of course) and I've yet to go below 4k and that's without using 2nd gear. Also I don't know if you noticed in the vid but the temps are 142 which is too low LOL. Brakes are sqeaking because of the great ducting there as well. This is really one of the best sorted track fds on the planet. 5 days of track time in this car and have noticed very little brake pad wear.Regarding passing I still get passed but it's usually by a cup car
When I was driving the daily driver (bolt ons with 10 to 11lbs of boost) I went to 3 events and the only event that I was passed was with the Porsche group and it was of course the cup cars and this is driving in the instructor group. FDs are really special cars. I can't think of any other car you can get for 15 to 20k and literally outrun most any normal car other than an FD.Full cage is probably a good idea. On Sunday in the second lap of the big bore race a spec 5 didn't see a red flag and ran into the back of a Porsche then went airborne into the trees taking out 3 or 4 small trees before bouncing back onto the track. The car was the worst I have seen. He walked away wearing a kneck brace.
Originally Posted by damian
excellent time fritz!!!
i need to get to a track with you next season so I can get some instruction since you really know the chassy well and our track cars are similar (although your is a notch more extream than mine).
I still have interior, only a roll bar, and only run 11-12 psi so far (maybe 320 ro 330 rwhp) and the cars still spanks almost everything out there. Last time at RA only 3 or 4 cars passed me, out of 120. So I'm sure your car, and with you driving (more skilled than me), is a freak show at the events, with only full on race cars/drivers as a challenge.
i need to get to a track with you next season so I can get some instruction since you really know the chassy well and our track cars are similar (although your is a notch more extream than mine).
I still have interior, only a roll bar, and only run 11-12 psi so far (maybe 320 ro 330 rwhp) and the cars still spanks almost everything out there. Last time at RA only 3 or 4 cars passed me, out of 120. So I'm sure your car, and with you driving (more skilled than me), is a freak show at the events, with only full on race cars/drivers as a challenge.
10-26-04, 08:15 PM
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>>With all the track time your getting I might want you to ride with me
heheh, well im just trying to catch up, I'm still behind the curve since I started this track so late in the game.
>>I took the strut tower bar off to try to get some more turn in
omg, more turn in!!! my car does not need more turn in, if anything it need more grip in the rear. The front has never pushed on me and the nose goes where ever I want, but the rear starts to squirm out if I turn in hard.
>>I can't think of any other car you can get for 15 to 20k and literally outrun most any normal car other than an FD.
yes, i agree... but dont forget the 40-50K it took to get that 15-10K FD to where it is!!!
Still, dosnt compare to the 100+K cars that we are whoopin!!! LOL heheheheh
>>Full cage is probably a good idea.
yeah, dunno if I can get it done this winter, but its in teh master plan :-)
...and my temps are in check too, feels great running hard knowing that is not an issue, and my oil temps are way low, ...that tells me i need to turn up the boost and make that apexi turbo work a little harder (hehheeh)
heheh, well im just trying to catch up, I'm still behind the curve since I started this track so late in the game.
>>I took the strut tower bar off to try to get some more turn in
omg, more turn in!!! my car does not need more turn in, if anything it need more grip in the rear. The front has never pushed on me and the nose goes where ever I want, but the rear starts to squirm out if I turn in hard.
>>I can't think of any other car you can get for 15 to 20k and literally outrun most any normal car other than an FD.
yes, i agree... but dont forget the 40-50K it took to get that 15-10K FD to where it is!!!
Still, dosnt compare to the 100+K cars that we are whoopin!!! LOL heheheheh
>>Full cage is probably a good idea.
yeah, dunno if I can get it done this winter, but its in teh master plan :-)
...and my temps are in check too, feels great running hard knowing that is not an issue, and my oil temps are way low, ...that tells me i need to turn up the boost and make that apexi turbo work a little harder (hehheeh)
10-26-04, 08:56 PM
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I'm just a turn in nut. My style is leading with the front moving the rear and back on the gas. IOW getting the car turned asap. In warmer weather I'm guessing the front will have plenty of stick but in cold damp weather the rear was winning in the stick department.
10-26-04, 09:20 PM
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>>I'm just a turn in nut. My style is leading with the front moving the rear and back on the gas
I like that style :-) .... my biggest problem is confidence, I need bigger cohones!!!!
... but that comes with seat time.... and im not about to force it and end up in a wall ;-)
I like that style :-) .... my biggest problem is confidence, I need bigger cohones!!!!
... but that comes with seat time.... and im not about to force it and end up in a wall ;-)
10-27-04, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by damian
>>I'm just a turn in nut. My style is leading with the front moving the rear and back on the gas
I like that style :-) .... my biggest problem is confidence, I need bigger cohones!!!!
... but that comes with seat time.... and im not about to force it and end up in a wall ;-)
I like that style :-) .... my biggest problem is confidence, I need bigger cohones!!!!
... but that comes with seat time.... and im not about to force it and end up in a wall ;-)
My first time on track it was boosting 7 or 8lbs because the boost controller was turned off. I didn't even notice until about half way through the session because it was pulling so hard. It's amazing how much difference a single turbo makes in regard to charge temps.
10-27-04, 07:21 PM
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>>>Not getting your slip angle right with slicks going 60 plus mph could mean serious trouble.
I have been there :-)
>>I'm definitely sneaking/creeping up on this cars potential it scares the hell out of me just boosting 10lbs
exaclty !!!! ..... but I love every dam minute in teh drivers seat of this beast, its friggin majoc how it runs the track, im am soooo not skilled enough to really use its full potential...yet ... :-)
I have been there :-)
>>I'm definitely sneaking/creeping up on this cars potential it scares the hell out of me just boosting 10lbs
exaclty !!!! ..... but I love every dam minute in teh drivers seat of this beast, its friggin majoc how it runs the track, im am soooo not skilled enough to really use its full potential...yet ... :-)
10-28-04, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Fritz Flynn
Just returned from Summit and had a great time in the Killer Bee. This car is completely amazing 
THANKS Again to Brad for building such an awesome car.
THANKS Again to Brad for building such an awesome car. Mark
10-28-04, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ArcWelder
Hey Fritz, I was at Summit for the Trackmasters event on Monday and Tuesday. There was some discussion of the carnage of the Spec Factory Five racer during a race.
Mark
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It was the worst sounding and looking track accident I've seen yet. The really sad part was the fact that the accident resulted from something as simple as not watching the flag station.
How's your car doing and are you going to any of the upcoming events at VIR? I'll be there with BMW Tarheel, G&W, Audi, and possibly Chin Motorsports.
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10-28-04, 04:14 PM
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"exaclty !!!! ..... but I love every dam minute in teh drivers seat of this beast, its friggin majoc how it runs the track, im am soooo not skilled enough to really use its full potential...yet ... :-)"
The more fun your track car is the more addicted you become which is why I'm trying my best to never get a Radical. I'm already mainlining as it is
The more fun your track car is the more addicted you become which is why I'm trying my best to never get a Radical. I'm already mainlining as it is
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Fritz,
I have seen some pictures of the results. Everyone is lucky to have gotten out relatively unhurt. There still appears to be some discussion as to whether the red flag was out early enough at T10 to be seen by the following FF racers.
My car is doing fine. No mechanical issues from the 2 days of pounding around Summit. I'm now contemplating my winter project. :-) As far as events, I may be done for the year unless I squeeze one in.
Mark
I have seen some pictures of the results. Everyone is lucky to have gotten out relatively unhurt. There still appears to be some discussion as to whether the red flag was out early enough at T10 to be seen by the following FF racers.
My car is doing fine. No mechanical issues from the 2 days of pounding around Summit. I'm now contemplating my winter project. :-) As far as events, I may be done for the year unless I squeeze one in.
Mark
Originally Posted by Fritz Flynn
Mark,
It was the worst sounding and looking track accident I've seen yet. The really sad part was the fact that the accident resulted from something as simple as not watching the flag station.
How's your car doing and are you going to any of the upcoming events at VIR? I'll be there with BMW Tarheel, G&W, Audi, and possibly Chin Motorsports.
Fritz
It was the worst sounding and looking track accident I've seen yet. The really sad part was the fact that the accident resulted from something as simple as not watching the flag station.
How's your car doing and are you going to any of the upcoming events at VIR? I'll be there with BMW Tarheel, G&W, Audi, and possibly Chin Motorsports.
Fritz
10-29-04, 01:43 PM
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If the Porsches saw the red flag at the start finish tower and were able to safely come to a resting stop before them then they had enough to time to also see the red flag at start finish tower. The flag was not out at turn ten AFAK. They were racing and not looking at the start finish tower or even far enough down track to see the stopping/stopped cars. Basically they also should have seen the flag or the stopped cars soon enough to stop before them and definitely soon enough to safely go by them. The FF cars are about 6 or 7 seconds a lap slower than the Porsche GT3 and that was the second lap so practically speaking they should have seen the flag sooner and stopped sooner because they are carrying less speed.. Bottomline it really sucks and it could of been avoided.
Originally Posted by ArcWelder
Fritz,
I have seen some pictures of the results. Everyone is lucky to have gotten out relatively unhurt. There still appears to be some discussion as to whether the red flag was out early enough at T10 to be seen by the following FF racers.
My car is doing fine. No mechanical issues from the 2 days of pounding around Summit. I'm now contemplating my winter project. :-) As far as events, I may be done for the year unless I squeeze one in.
Mark
I have seen some pictures of the results. Everyone is lucky to have gotten out relatively unhurt. There still appears to be some discussion as to whether the red flag was out early enough at T10 to be seen by the following FF racers.
My car is doing fine. No mechanical issues from the 2 days of pounding around Summit. I'm now contemplating my winter project. :-) As far as events, I may be done for the year unless I squeeze one in.
Mark
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11-08-04, 08:38 AM
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Went to Summit on Sunday and still can't figure out these damn brakes I have some interesting video of locking up the right rear going into turn 5.
Car is blazingly fast but it's tuff to really take advantage if you can't stop
Anyway the best times were 1:24s and not one 1:23 atleast on tape anyway.
I have some interesting video of locking up the right rear going into turn 5. Car is blazingly fast but it's tuff to really take advantage if you can't stop
Anyway the best times were 1:24s and not one 1:23 atleast on tape anyway.
11-08-04, 01:13 PM
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i feel ur pain fritz, ill be removing the abs over winter and did the last MAM event with the abs unplugged to get a head start on relearning threshhold breaking without the abs helping, it was tricky and i am not maximizing it yet, but I like it. I have a short clip ill put up where i get the short end of teh stick on a bad point by and fly past the braking zone and go for a littel off road excursion. I was doing good on not lockin em up until that ;-)
11-08-04, 02:43 PM
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Vid is up
It's basically a braking mistake because after looking a the vid a few times it's pretty easy to see I was trailing just a bit I probably trail into most corners though I just need to brake really clean in a straight line and if I'm late I'll just miss the damn apex and hopefully pic a better brake point the next time .
Damian,
I would not switch from the ABS setup because it's a huge advantage if it's working well and it's also much safer. If it wasn't such a PIA I would switch this car back to a stock setup. This car is 200 pounds lighter than my street cars and I should be able to brake much later but I'm braking much earlier instead because I either suck at braking or the brakes suck. Sure it's the former but damn I'm too old to learn how to brake and I'd rather some computer do it for me
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It's basically a braking mistake because after looking a the vid a few times it's pretty easy to see I was trailing just a bit
I probably trail into most corners though I just need to brake really clean in a straight line and if I'm late I'll just miss the damn apex and hopefully pic a better brake point the next time .Damian,
I would not switch from the ABS setup because it's a huge advantage if it's working well and it's also much safer. If it wasn't such a PIA I would switch this car back to a stock setup. This car is 200 pounds lighter than my street cars and I should be able to brake much later but I'm braking much earlier instead because I either suck at braking or the brakes suck. Sure it's the former but damn I'm too old to learn how to brake and I'd rather some computer do it for me
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Originally Posted by damian
i feel ur pain fritz, ill be removing the abs over winter and did the last MAM event with the abs unplugged to get a head start on relearning threshhold breaking without the abs helping, it was tricky and i am not maximizing it yet, but I like it. I have a short clip ill put up where i get the short end of teh stick on a bad point by and fly past the braking zone and go for a littel off road excursion. I was doing good on not lockin em up until that ;-)
11-08-04, 03:37 PM
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hehehe i hear ya fritz :-)
here is my opinion on the abs removal...
from the second hand info i gathered, yes, in stock form you can not beat the abs breaking on the fd, HOWEVER, it seem when you run larger rims (like i do, 18") then you actually can beat the abs system in braking performace....maybe not by much, but in the braking zone any little bit helps, .....ok, who cares, BUT, now lets add the fact that you can remove some weight where you really dont want it (up high)....ok, again, alone its a small gain, who cares...put the two together and now, in my opinion, is significatn enough for me to try it at least.
i dont want to run crazy boost to make my car faster, i need as much engine longevity as i can get and running conservative boot and af ratio will help with that....sooo.... to make it faster in a straight line i need to reduce weight, change gearing, et, et, things like that. so now weight reduction is a big thing for me. (yet i cant get myself to rip out the interior yet ...hahahah.. )
here is my opinion on the abs removal...
from the second hand info i gathered, yes, in stock form you can not beat the abs breaking on the fd, HOWEVER, it seem when you run larger rims (like i do, 18") then you actually can beat the abs system in braking performace....maybe not by much, but in the braking zone any little bit helps, .....ok, who cares, BUT, now lets add the fact that you can remove some weight where you really dont want it (up high)....ok, again, alone its a small gain, who cares...put the two together and now, in my opinion, is significatn enough for me to try it at least.
i dont want to run crazy boost to make my car faster, i need as much engine longevity as i can get and running conservative boot and af ratio will help with that....sooo.... to make it faster in a straight line i need to reduce weight, change gearing, et, et, things like that. so now weight reduction is a big thing for me. (yet i cant get myself to rip out the interior yet ...hahahah.. )
11-08-04, 07:29 PM
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Hell I may need to turn my boost down just so I'm not saying the Hail Mary each time I enter a brake zone
The brake change won't save much weight at all. If you can brake better with 18s then you should be able to brake better with stock wheels as well. Whoever came up with that is not thinking clearly.
I also wouldn't recommend going with manual steering either. If I had manual steering there is no way I could of saved 1/2 of my mistakes. The FD gives you plenty of steering feed back as it is especially with 285s in the front.
How many days are you getting out those used slicks before they lose their grip? Mine were dead on the 5th day. They may be pretty old though.
The brake change won't save much weight at all. If you can brake better with 18s then you should be able to brake better with stock wheels as well. Whoever came up with that is not thinking clearly.
I also wouldn't recommend going with manual steering either. If I had manual steering there is no way I could of saved 1/2 of my mistakes. The FD gives you plenty of steering feed back as it is especially with 285s in the front.
How many days are you getting out those used slicks before they lose their grip? Mine were dead on the 5th day. They may be pretty old though.
11-08-04, 08:10 PM
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