Race Car Tech Discuss anything related to road racing and auto X.

Aftermarket fuel cell with stock sending unit questions?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 6, 2007 | 12:50 AM
  #1  
Alex Rodriguez's Avatar
Thread Starter
MODERATOR
Veteran: Marine Corp
Tenured Member 20 Years
iTrader: (137)
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 6,442
Likes: 9
From: Houston Texas
Aftermarket fuel cell with stock sending unit questions?

I will be getting a aluminum fuel cell soon my question is i want the stock fuel level sending unit from my oem tank so i can still read my stock gauge cluster.

is this possible
Reply
Old Aug 7, 2007 | 11:16 AM
  #2  
speedturn's Avatar
Rotary Enthusiast
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,035
Likes: 2
From: Rocket City, Alabama
No. You do not want to try and put a stock fuel sender into a racing fuel cell.

However, FuelSafe does sell a sender unit that will fit into their fuel cells. Their sender is designed to work with their gauge. I have one, and it is very handy on a race car.

The fuelsafe sender may or may not work with your stock gauge. You would just have to try it and see.
Reply
Old Aug 8, 2007 | 06:49 PM
  #3  
DigDug's Avatar
Registered User
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,038
Likes: 0
From: Sterling, VA
I had a setup that worked with the stock gauge using an ATL sender. You can order a sender with a particular resistance range to match the stock gauge. I forget which one it was, but you can easily measure it when you have the stock tank and sender out.
Reply
Old Aug 9, 2007 | 01:49 AM
  #4  
Alex Rodriguez's Avatar
Thread Starter
MODERATOR
Veteran: Marine Corp
Tenured Member 20 Years
iTrader: (137)
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 6,442
Likes: 9
From: Houston Texas
i need more info on this DIGDUG i want to do this, i already have a fuel cell but its a plastic one , i am getting the aluminum one for two reasons 1- i want to fill up from the gas door 2- my car is a daily driver i dont want to drive around with a 12g tank in my rear

so please any links or companies you know send me their way i want to use my stock gauge and in the future a autometer fuel level gauge
Reply
Old Aug 9, 2007 | 02:49 AM
  #5  
DigDug's Avatar
Registered User
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,038
Likes: 0
From: Sterling, VA
Originally Posted by El Nene 7
i need more info on this DIGDUG i want to do this, i already have a fuel cell but its a plastic one , i am getting the aluminum one for two reasons 1- i want to fill up from the gas door 2- my car is a daily driver i dont want to drive around with a 12g tank in my rear

so please any links or companies you know send me their way i want to use my stock gauge and in the future a autometer fuel level gauge

ATL sells fuel level probes and low-level warning switches. The factory fuel level sender is just a variable resistor, so by matching the resistance range (at full and empty) of the stock sender with an aftermarket sender in your fuel cell, you can use the stock gauge. Also, the factory low-level warning switch is a simple switched ground, so you can use one of their low-level switches to trigger the dash light if you want. You would just replace those stock components and splice into the factory wiring. You need to measure the resistance of the stock sender at full and empty and then call ATL to get a probe to match.
Reply
Old Aug 9, 2007 | 02:53 AM
  #6  
DigDug's Avatar
Registered User
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,038
Likes: 0
From: Sterling, VA
Oh and make sure you know what you're doing before you go monkey around with a fuel cell. Installing the probe definitely takes some work and can be dangerous.
Reply
Old Aug 9, 2007 | 09:36 AM
  #7  
Alex Rodriguez's Avatar
Thread Starter
MODERATOR
Veteran: Marine Corp
Tenured Member 20 Years
iTrader: (137)
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 6,442
Likes: 9
From: Houston Texas
thanks bro

yeah some people actually dont mind the tank inside but i dont and if i put it under its too close to the ground...plus it was a freeebie from my sponsors
Reply
Old Aug 24, 2007 | 06:20 AM
  #8  
Geauxkart's Avatar
Bayou Bridgeport
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 36
Likes: 0
From: Louisiana
Originally Posted by El Nene 7
thanks bro

yeah some people actually dont mind the tank inside but i dont and if i put it under its too close to the ground...plus it was a freeebie from my sponsors
Put an 11 gal ATL in the floor of the hatch. Fits between the spare tire well and the diff - in between frame rails. It still provides more clearance than the stock tank - and will keep you C of G lower.

Also, any competitive racing will require the cell to be bulkheaded from the pass compartment. Put it inside and you have a lot of fabbing to do...
Reply
Old Aug 26, 2007 | 04:17 PM
  #9  
Taz's Avatar
Taz
Full Member
Tenured Member 20 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 146
Likes: 0
From: Ponce PR
Originally Posted by speedturn
No. You do not want to try and put a stock fuel sender into a racing fuel cell.
Why not?
I'm using both the oem float sender and the low level warning light inside a modified surge tank in my ATL.
cheers
Reply
Old Aug 31, 2007 | 12:38 AM
  #10  
Alex Rodriguez's Avatar
Thread Starter
MODERATOR
Veteran: Marine Corp
Tenured Member 20 Years
iTrader: (137)
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 6,442
Likes: 9
From: Houston Texas
i need to see pics of this taz , i already installed my fuel cell and pump but its a temporary solution till i get my aluminum tank

heres a pic of my set up...NOTE ITS ONLY TEMPORARY AND NO THE PUMP IS NOT TOO LOW ,YES ITS LOW BUT I NEED IT LIKE THIS BECAUSE AEROMOTIVE TOLD ME IT HAS TO BE BELOW TANK LEVEL

Reply
Old Sep 3, 2007 | 09:57 AM
  #11  
Taz's Avatar
Taz
Full Member
Tenured Member 20 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 146
Likes: 0
From: Ponce PR
Ok. I'm replacing my leaking bladder in a few weeks, I'll have pics of the surge tank then...
Reply
Old Sep 19, 2007 | 09:52 PM
  #12  
Taz's Avatar
Taz
Full Member
Tenured Member 20 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 146
Likes: 0
From: Ponce PR
Fuel Cell pics

Hi,
I have that pic for you. Shoot me a pm with your email.
cheers
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
trickster
2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992)
25
Jul 1, 2023 04:40 PM
sen2two
AEM EMS
9
Oct 23, 2015 07:51 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:41 AM.