mikejenkins

Can someone tell me if this is set up right? First a pic of the controller on the passenger side strut.

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next a close up of where the lines connect...

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and closer still

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Still not getting more than 3 pounds boost under full throttle... Anyone see anything setup wrong on these pictures?

Fish

It is connected differently from mine. I shall take some pictures tomorrow and post them.

I would do it now, but at 22:30, its a little late.

Dan

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Fish, Thank you so much. I appreciate the help.
Mike

Tim Benton

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on the 3rd pic, what's the hose that looks tied off underneath the turbo inlet?

Tim

Tim Benton

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also, you have the hoses hooked up correctly, as far as using the wastegate control for boost control, on the 2nd turbo. Primary boost control is controlled by the turbo precontrol actuator. Do you hear a hugh whoosh noise like your venting boost when your gunning the car?

Tim

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Tim,
On the first question: I read that I was supposed to plug the other nipple on the wastegate and also the nipple that it used to connect to. So I made a plug by folding over a little piece of hose and ziptying it and then ziptying that to the nipple. Is that wrong?

On the second question... yes... when I put the gas pedal all the way down there is a huge whoosh... I get about 2 pounds of boost max from 2500 RPM through Redline (even on the second turbo). It almost sounds like I forgot to plug a hose in but I don't think that's the problem.
I feel like I must be close to finally getting it working properly... Thanks for all the help so far, Have you ever heard of a malfunctioning Power FC ECU (One that won't control boost)... I tried everything, If you can give me a call to chat so I can tell you all that I've done... that would be great!
Thanks again...
Mike

Tim Benton

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I haven't heard of a PFC malfunction like that, but it could I guess. Without finding the other posts you've made and I hate asking you to retype it since you've answered this before....was it boosting fine before the install? With it hooked up only to the wastegate side, and like I was saying, the precontrol acutator is the only mostly controlling boost on the primary, look to see if anything is off dealing with that turbo. Does the charge relief valve look and act properly? You can swap that CRV and BOV for a run and see if there's a difference.

Tim

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Tim, Thanks I'll definately try that with the CRV and BOV (Understand that the CRV and BOV are right next to each other and look the same... each has a hose going back into the airbox in stock form... Is that right?) Yes, it was boosting fine before the POWER FC went in... I saw 16 Pounds of boost with the stock ECU and an open exhaust and intake... I knew that was a dangerous situation with the stock ECU so I got the POWER FC and boost control kit and it has been controlling boost ever since (2-3 pound boost max). I've tried all sorts of different configurations too! Very confused... I saw from your profile that you are in Goergia... If you can give me a ring to chat that would be great I think... then we can talk about all I've done (or you can PM me your number and I can call you). Hope to hear from you again soon.
Thanks again...
Mike

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Okay, I messed with it again... same results... 3 pounds boost max... also switched CRV and BOV... no change. Anyone have any suggestions? Here are three new pictures (each getting progressively more zoomed).

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Picture 3... Thanks for looking fellas I'm open to any ideas...

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Fish

Ok, sorry for the delay. Being on-call for work is such a pain in the ****....

Checking the pipework, neither of the pipes from the controller go to the actuators. They disappear under the pipe from the turbos across the top of the engine.

Dan

Tim Benton

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okay, trying to grasp the outline with the new pics as well. You've taken the stock wastegate soleniod out of the picture and capped the line coming off the front of the wastegate actuator...correct? Capped the hard line going to the stock solenoid...correct? what's the T'd off line (3rd new pic) go to, back of the actuator, to side of new solenoid, but it also goes underneath (like Fish stated). Is it going to the back of the turbo precontrol actuator? If so, why?

Tim

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Tim/Fish,
Sorry fellas, I don't understand your last... I read them a few times each and I don't understand... tim, I'm not sure what you are asking me? Sorry to waste your time on that last one... I'm still confused! Should I keep the wastegate hose connected, plug the pre-control hose and disconnect the precontrol harness (under the surge tank?) (Or vice versa?)
Mike
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Tim Benton

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the hose in new pic one that comes off of the solenoid, toward the front of the car, is T'd off. Goes to the back of the wastegate actuator, but also goes underneath to what?

Tim

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Oh, I think I know what you are asking... the other hose plugs into the pre-control actuator below... It plugs in the same spot on the pre-control as it does on the wastegate... That's how the AVC-R diagram shows it on page 48 of the following link... (click on AVC-R manual to see)
http://www.apexi-usa.com/documentation.asp

I still don't know why it isn't doing anything... Still open to new ideas... everytime... it is 2-3 pounds of boost max... I at least wish it would change a little so I knew that I was malipulating it... each time I go for a spin I can almost hear the car laughing at me (Maybe I should keep those voices on the inside from now on!)

Anyway... let me know if that answers your question... I'm standing by here until I get another idea before I go rooting around in there again. Thanks for everything so far!

Mike
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Tim Benton

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I'd take it off the precontrol actuator since that is more than likely venting boost on the primary turbo. Just let it control the wastegate and see what happens. Hook the precontrol actuator back in like stock and just run the line off of the wastegate to the solenoid and back to the line off the turbos. see if that helps. easy to do and easy to undo.

Tim

mikejenkins

You mean like I had it before? (In the first set of pictures?) I'll go ahead and try it and let you know! Thanks again.
Mike
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twokrx7

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He was trying to tell you to be sure you capped the second nipple on each of the actuators. The actuators have two nipples, one was plumbed to the stock solenoids and the other was a pressure source. It looks like you tapped into the pressure line but did you disconnect the other line and cap off the nipple?

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Should I cap the nipples that the lines from the actuator nipples went to as well? Or should I leave them open?

Tim Benton

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damn, your right, the first set was hooked up like I just stated

plug the wastegate actuator hardline as well since you plugged the nipple connector coming off the actuator itself.

Did you ever use the PFC without the boost control kit hooked up, or did you do it all at once? Heck, an easy test, if you haven't already tried it is to just unhook the lines you put in for the kit, run the stock lines back in place and run it. Although you might have already tried that. Sorry if I can't keep the threads straight and what you've tried so far

Tim

Tim Benton

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cap them..in regards to your question above.

Tim