Power FC FC Tune preview
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Originally Posted by kevinvr6
so if fc tune is free, and i have datalogit box, then how will fasthatch make money off me ? :P
Originally Posted by TailHappy
Because it secretly steals your credit card numbers and bank passwords and turns your computer into a zombie slave......
keep up t3h good work fasthatch!
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help me someone
question for anyone who can help!!!! how do i log on to fc-tune or the datalogit!!
i have the datalogit fc edit box!!! was wondering if i need the fc box pluged to the ecu and be powerED
by my car 12v power ??? i have a message saying interface not responding!!
the fc-tune program does not see a link connection from the fc-edit box!! ANY INFORMATION IS COOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FAST HATCH if you could tell me that would be best
i have the datalogit fc edit box!!! was wondering if i need the fc box pluged to the ecu and be powerED
by my car 12v power ??? i have a message saying interface not responding!!
the fc-tune program does not see a link connection from the fc-edit box!! ANY INFORMATION IS COOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FAST HATCH if you could tell me that would be best
Last edited by jayjay22; Oct 8, 2006 at 12:24 PM. Reason: errors
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@jayjay22: As with FC Edit the Datalogit box must be plugged in to the PFC and power must be switches on. Then you have to select the right COM port and you should be able to connect to the PFC by either pressing Download or Monitor -> Start.
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does datalogit fc-edit box work for all power fc ecu's
[B][I]ok anyone with info would help!! is the datalogit fc edit box only for one type of make ?? that you buy it for like honda ,wrx ,sr20 , evo , mr2, ect??? or do you just need the cd software load in your hard drive to access the setting to the car you wish to use on??? fast hatch if you could give some detail that would be great!!!! also fast hatch with the fc tune software work for all models of the apexi power fc?? will it have base maps install already??
for all makes like the ones above???? will the fc-tune box work on all power fc?? thanks
for all makes like the ones above???? will the fc-tune box work on all power fc?? thanks
Last edited by jayjay22; Oct 15, 2006 at 07:37 PM. Reason: more detailed
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Question:
Is there a performance benefit of the proposed "FastHatch" box over an FC Datalogit? Was looking for a clarification because it sounded like it would have a higher sample rate than the FC Datalogit? In other posts it sounded more like the software was what was improving the sample rate?
Is there a performance benefit of the proposed "FastHatch" box over an FC Datalogit? Was looking for a clarification because it sounded like it would have a higher sample rate than the FC Datalogit? In other posts it sounded more like the software was what was improving the sample rate?
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Other suggestions for functionality:
As an FC Edit user (Toyota Celica 2ZZ-GE), I find that I have to do all my "tuning" outside of FC Edit, and thus have had to develop Excel based tools to do this. The biggest problem with this is that my Excel tools need to be constantly tweaked in order to for the displays to be correct and all the calculations to work.
First suggestion would be a rescaling tool. The default load and rpm breakpoints usually make little sense, and most people would want to change those to best suit their cars. This is especially true on Toyota engines with VVTL-i or Honda engines with i-VTEC, as extremely careful control of cam timing around the cam switchover point is necessary. This is my Excel tool I made for this purpose, but again using it is cumbersome because you typically need to hand correct many of the cell formulas to make it work.
http://users.ameritech.net/trdcelica...scale_Tool.xls
Second suggestion is a good way to revise maps. I like that you've included 2D graphs of maps, and I saw a suggestion that you show total fueling rather than just base fueling. I've also seen a bit of discussion over the Recalc Base function and peoples' desire to make percentage based changes to their maps. This Excel tool I made (I actually named it PFC Tune way back in 2004 when I made the first version of it) graphs based off of total fueling, compares logged AFR data against commanded AFR and generates a suggested changes table. But being Excel, I needed to make a third table to actually implement the changes, which directly writes those percentage based changes back to a revised base fueling table. Other problems with using Excel is that all the cell references have to be hand entered, both in the tables and in the graphs, and graph scaling would need to be adjusted by the individual user.
http://users.ameritech.net/trdcelica/PFC_Tune.xls
Anyways, just thought that the biggest shortcoming to FC Edit was its inability to actually interpret the logged data and help you make any sort of changes.
As an FC Edit user (Toyota Celica 2ZZ-GE), I find that I have to do all my "tuning" outside of FC Edit, and thus have had to develop Excel based tools to do this. The biggest problem with this is that my Excel tools need to be constantly tweaked in order to for the displays to be correct and all the calculations to work.
First suggestion would be a rescaling tool. The default load and rpm breakpoints usually make little sense, and most people would want to change those to best suit their cars. This is especially true on Toyota engines with VVTL-i or Honda engines with i-VTEC, as extremely careful control of cam timing around the cam switchover point is necessary. This is my Excel tool I made for this purpose, but again using it is cumbersome because you typically need to hand correct many of the cell formulas to make it work.
http://users.ameritech.net/trdcelica...scale_Tool.xls
Second suggestion is a good way to revise maps. I like that you've included 2D graphs of maps, and I saw a suggestion that you show total fueling rather than just base fueling. I've also seen a bit of discussion over the Recalc Base function and peoples' desire to make percentage based changes to their maps. This Excel tool I made (I actually named it PFC Tune way back in 2004 when I made the first version of it) graphs based off of total fueling, compares logged AFR data against commanded AFR and generates a suggested changes table. But being Excel, I needed to make a third table to actually implement the changes, which directly writes those percentage based changes back to a revised base fueling table. Other problems with using Excel is that all the cell references have to be hand entered, both in the tables and in the graphs, and graph scaling would need to be adjusted by the individual user.
http://users.ameritech.net/trdcelica/PFC_Tune.xls
Anyways, just thought that the biggest shortcoming to FC Edit was its inability to actually interpret the logged data and help you make any sort of changes.
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From: Israel
Due to me not receiving a reply for months fro the auzies
I bought the FC Commander Pro. I am using it on my S14
SR20DET. I know you are not doing this model engine yet
but if needed I will be happy to assist in any way possible.
John
I bought the FC Commander Pro. I am using it on my S14
SR20DET. I know you are not doing this model engine yet
but if needed I will be happy to assist in any way possible.
John
Originally Posted by FastHatch
For the RX-7 they should be labeled Leading and Trailing, the problem is that for some cars it should be labeled Premium and Regular Gas and for others just ignition map. I already have an idea how to solve that perfectly, but in the meantime I might name them 'Ignition map 1 / 2' by default and then relabel then as soon as you open a calibration.
@Dr. IfTeR / All: Should 'auto update' be set application wide and saved in the registry or set per open document? The problem is if you have calibration X in the PFC and open file Y which does not match the one in the PFC and then change a setting a part of Y will be written to the PFC. So I'd say auto update has to be turned on for every document and is by default off. If you turn on auto update without making a up/download before the program warns you that the calibration might not match.
@Dr. IfTeR / All: Should 'auto update' be set application wide and saved in the registry or set per open document? The problem is if you have calibration X in the PFC and open file Y which does not match the one in the PFC and then change a setting a part of Y will be written to the PFC. So I'd say auto update has to be turned on for every document and is by default off. If you turn on auto update without making a up/download before the program warns you that the calibration might not match.
I'm guessing we've seen the last of the updates on this forum. :-( I was really looking forward to using the S/W once the +/- and auto update were added. Oh well, back to the datalogit.
Note: This post is my attempt at reverse psychology. For those that are influenced by this post, please ignore this note.
Note: This post is my attempt at reverse psychology. For those that are influenced by this post, please ignore this note.
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Originally Posted by Dr. IfTeR
I'm guessing we've seen the last of the updates on this forum. :-(
I'll upload a new version in a few days.