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Old 10-30-06, 06:05 PM
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need help with a swap

ok you guyz i found a 90 modle supra with a good looking motor in it and i was just woundering if itll swap in my second gen. rx7.
Old 10-30-06, 10:26 PM
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im sure you can... i have a few pics of a fc w/ a supra motor in it.... but why in gods name would you want.........................nevermind...... its a lost cause.....

short answer..yes, with the right amount of money, it can be done... but why?
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that engine is highly reliable 1jz correct?.. not sure on the specs and don't care enough to google it. I could understand it better if u already had the car that was given to you or you got it for 400$ or something... maybe lol, but i like the idea of an inline 6 better than a v8 ill give you that much
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Originally Posted by keithrulz
but i like the idea of an inline 6 better than a v8 ill give you that much
Why? it's heavier, it's taller, and it's longer, so the higher weight is farther forward and higher in the chassis.

But, now it's ok to swap to a piston engine that does all the things you think the V8 does as long as it's still japanese, right?

You kids never cease to amaze me as to the depths your ignorance and idiocy can fall to.
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an inline 6 is stronger built engine internaly more bearings per piston, has better balance, has a good amount of USEABLE torque at appororiate rpms for these light weight cars. They sound better, you can tune them for better gas mileage and still have a great deal of power and they just have a lifetime thats out of this world. now please stfu about calling people ignorant kids on here. i will never swap a piston engine in an rx7 i dont car what anyone says. but there are better configurations out there than v8s as posabilities if you chose to do so. afterall did you ever think to why there are not v8 in semis? and there are H configurations in piston airplanes? the inlne 6 is a better engine for that application it gets them everything they need and you can apply the same principals to cars

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Old 11-01-06, 10:27 AM
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this is sad this is very sad why would anyone want to swap a rotary for an inline 6 however i love that engine its the same engine thats in a skyline but if you want more power just get a 3 rotor or get a 86 supra for about $400 and drop a inline 6 in it
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smokie... what are you smokin. "Just get a 3 rotor?" you should just get the L6, it's about the same amount of $$ and time to do the 20b as it would be to do the L6.

You can drop in a 4AGE (Toyota L4) or an SR20DET (Nissan L4) in there with little work, and make some serious power.

BUT, if you want to make the ultimate power, an LS1 is a great option. If you HAVE to run a 6 cylinder then how about the Buick 3.8L Turbo Grand National engine. Those things are nasty with little work.

Just my .02
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Originally Posted by keithrulz
an inline 6 is stronger built engine internaly more bearings per piston, has better balance, has a good amount of USEABLE torque at appororiate rpms for these light weight cars.
The only thing that's factual in your statments so far is that they are internally stronger, Yet, the V8s aren't blowing up at rather high power levels, either, so maybe that's a moot point.

They sound better,
They sound good, but better? Subjective. Do NOT use that as an assertion of fact, son.

you can tune them for better gas mileage and still have a great deal of power
Same with the V8. But in both cases, gas mileage and lots of power are mutually exclusive. At about 400 hp, I saw 25 mpg highway from my V8 FC. A Supra engine would be about the same, if that good.


and they just have a lifetime thats out of this world.
That remains to be seen. NONE of them have been around as long as the SBC or SBF. There are cars with small blocks that are still on their original engines 30-50 YEARS later.


now please stfu about calling people ignorant kids on here.
Not until they stop being so.


i will never swap a piston engine in an rx7 i dont car what anyone says. but there are better configurations out there than v8s as posabilities if you chose to do so.
And the tall, long, heavier Inline 6 is not one of them. What part of this are you not getting? the one FD with a Supra engine I've seen operational has had the engine front far forward f the front wheel centerline, and the front of the engine sits up tall. OR, they cut the heck out of the firewall. Is that really a better option? Any 2JZ guys feel free to corrrect me on this with pics of the conversion.


afterall did you ever think to why there are not v8 in semis?
Do you know what the GMC 8V71 is? Do you know why there aren't any ROTARIES in Semis?

and there are H configurations in piston airplanes? the inlne 6 is a better engine for that application it gets them everything they need and you can apply the same principals to cars
My daily driver has a ******* 4 cyl engine in it. I love ALL engines, and my next swap is to an I6 in my Falcon. I'm also putting a toyota 1UZ V8 in the place of my Ford V8 in my other project car. I've also owned and raced more rotary cars than you, and love them. BUT, in some applications, the aluminum (or light cast iron) V8 is the better choice for packaging vs cost vs power. The RX7 has a wide, but not very long engine compartment, that is also not very tall. The V8 fits in there like it was meant to be there. The I6 does NOT. As soon as you learn the REST of the reasons, you will STFU yourself. Until then, work on learning something. I've been playing with cars for 30+ years. And I STILL enjoy learning new things. But you've not said anything new and damn little that is factual.

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Originally Posted by smokie
this is sad this is very sad why would anyone want to swap a rotary for an inline 6 however i love that engine its the same engine thats in a skyline but if you want more power just get a 3 rotor or get a 86 supra for about $400 and drop a inline 6 in it
what!?
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ok well how about a sr20det out of a s13 or give me some other choices for my 87 rx7
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Originally Posted by chodester
ok well how about a sr20det out of a s13 or give me some other choices for my 87 rx7
why dont you tell us how much power you want, what you want to use the car for, and what you have to spend. most likely, a custom swap will not be cheaper than putting another rotary in it unless you have a lot of the parts lying around.
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Originally Posted by smokie
this is sad this is very sad why would anyone want to swap a rotary for an inline 6 however i love that engine its the same engine thats in a skyline but if you want more power just get a 3 rotor or get a 86 supra for about $400 and drop a inline 6 in it
No. Its not the same motor as a Skyline. Skyline is a Nissan. Supra is Toyota. Fail.
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for starters merc63 i said nothing about how PRACTICAL an inline 6 engine would be in a rx7 did I?? I simply stated i like the IDEA better than a v8. UNIQUE is what we are all here for, its why most of us have these cars.. most. theres not a damn thing unique about puting a common engine into a car like this. inline 6 engines sound better yes thats an opinion. i have never heard a v8 that sent chills up my spine, but thats me.

"At about 400 hp, I saw 25 mpg highway from my V8 FC. A Supra engine would be about the same, if that good."

wrong, take into consideration any undersized engine pushing a boat like a supra around is going to get poor gas mileage. as you know a supra is not light nor small. swap the engine into an rx7 and you'll see an increase in gas mileage. it's sheer physics, doesn't take much power to move a feather. but I don't have to tell you this right? You already figured this in.

i say "now please stfu about calling people ignorant kids on here." kindly ofcorse

you reply "Not until they stop being so." ..... apparently, all your years on this earth driving o so many more rx7s than me (as if that makes a damn bit of diffrence on this topic) have taught you nothing other than how to be a degrading, arrogant, concescending, bitter old man.

NEXT

"Do you know what the GMC 8V71 is? Do you know why there aren't any ROTARIES in Semis?"

wow you managed to find an exception, maybe i should have worded it diffrently "the majority are inline engines" the second part shouldn't even be in here

reply all you want I know you enjoy trying to degrade people... the ignorant kids that we are and all. in my eyes if someone wants to put a piston engine in an rx7 at least make it have a cool factor. if i wanted to see a v8 i'd go look at my 16 year old nebors mustang.

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Old 11-07-06, 10:32 AM
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well i want around 400 hp and ya the swaps will be a lil difficult and the money isue will be kinda bad.but i mean a turbo and a street port and some other mods should get me up there right
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