allforjesus06

keep rebuilding the engine??

.....

what, do you think you have to rebuild a rotary every time you go to the store and back?

i seriously doubt you'll keep the car for over 150,000 miles.


and please, keep your little comments to yourself

Homie D

ey *** i know about these cars. dont try to make me look like i dont. these car require alot of matenince is what i mean. more time required that i can put into. so dont act like a culero.

ZeroBanger

If you want a 4 banger, buy a honda. If you want a reliable Rx-7, dont drive it.

scheistermeister

the 924S, my other car, is also expensive (same engine as 944) if you take it to a shop to have the tbelt and waterpump done it can be $1000 easy. break a tbelt and new motor time!

as for trying to turbo a n/a 944 engine.... anyone who knows about them will tell you that youre better off buying a 951(944 turbo) itd cost twice as much if not more to turbo a n/a that it would for you to find a good 951.

Aaron Cake

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I find it amazing how people think that building up and swapping in a completely different engine is somehow going to be easier/cheaper then rebuilding and modding their existing engine...Simply amazing. Also, you know the maturity an intelligence level of the original poster when he responds with "why are you all gay"...

RotaryMagic

God I love this thread, it's the epitome of stupidity. Homie D, thanks for the quote - I don't think I've laughed so hard in quite some time. You do realize any quality swap is going to be WAY over 6grand right?

Crash Test Joey

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Care to explain your source for this figure? I've got slightly less than $6k in my entire car, including the purchase price of $1350, a swapped in TII rear LSD, all NEW TII brakes, new shocks, new wheels and tires, new autometer gauges, new racing seats, a fuel cell, and a few other things that have nothing to do with the engine and transmission in it. A piston-engine swap has been done and documented for less than $2k - it all depends on what type of performance you want.

If I were looking to swap in anything but a V8, I would use the Buick turbo V6. Check out www.misred.com or www.torquecentral.com for more info about doing this type of thing.

RotaryMagic

I was referring to an FD, but damn you picked all the right stuff. I was looking at a ford 302 or 350 SBC into an Rx-3, do you have any ideas? I want to make about 400-500whp if possible. Do you have any recommendations? I know where to get the vehicle, I just want some insight on successful drivetrain swaps and such.

RETed

Just because YOU did it for that much doesn't mean others can too...


-Ted

Crash Test Joey

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While I was referring to an FC and an FD would be more based primarily on the cost of the car itself, I see no reason for others not to be able to duplicate my cost. Assuming you already own the car, the cost difference for the SWAP is not substantial between an FC and FD. I don't recall but I think the car in question is already owned by the guy asking about it.

Last time I checked, Summit and Jeg's will deliver parts pretty much anywhere and that's where they all came from. I didn't do anything special that anyone else can't do for the same money. I didn't custom fabricate anything that other people would need a machine shop for. The hardest thing I did was use a jigsaw to cut a hole in the hood. If you can't do that, you don't belong under the hood of a car anyway.

Anyone who spends significantly more than I did is upgrading things for the car that have nothing to do with an engine swap. If you haven't done it before or honestly priced out the REQUIRED parts in order to see what it does cost, sit back and leave it to people who have.

digitalsolo

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Hell, I did it for about 6K with the cost of my car and a paint job, new suspension, and rebuild on the V8...

RotaryMagic

So what about the Rx-3 with a smallblock of some sort in it?

Homie D

...god damn.. i said in the begining of this thread I ALREADY know about the LP1 engine swap. and the whole reson behind this swap is because i have the whole RX7 without an engine (I do have the tranny). I want a different engine.

RotaryResurrection

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If you know so much why the f&ck are you asking us what to do? Go and do what you want. Very few of us here will support you in this endeavor...this forum and community is based upon the rx-7, but more specifically the rotary engine. Anyone coming in here talking about other things just stirs up ****, and does so knowingly.

Bottom line, you can put almost ANY engine into almost ANY car. You can put anything in your rx7 from a briggs and stratton lawnmower motor to a v10 from a viper.IT all depends on how much time and money you have, and how many people you know with fabrication skills.

OF course if you knew so much, you would already have known this, and you would never have posted this thread. I dont know what you were trying to accomplish, but you won't get much help from anyone on this board (unless they're v8 swappers lurking in the shadows, which there are many of).

The most common, and easiest swaps, are swaps to other rotary engines, such as turbo II, 13bre, rew, or 20B. Second in popularity are v8 swaps, 350 and 302. Then you hear of the occasional GN swap, and/or 4.3 swap. One kid a while back tried to put a supra 7mGTE motor into an FC, and I dont know that he ever made it run (or even fit properly for that matter). There was a mag article a while back with a 2JZGTE supra motor in an FD as well...the car had to have a funky hood to clear the head, and it looked like ****.

I just don't see the point. If you want a fast car, BUY a fast car. If you want a 4 cylinder car, BUY a 4 cylinder car.

The only time I believe in engine swaps is when the swap leaves the vehicle looking and operating like stock, AND when there is no dispute that the new drivetrain is an improvement over the old one. Take a chevy s-10 truck with a v6 or I4...putting a v8 into that will in no way hinder the performance of the truck...it will help it in all aspects. IT can be made to look stock, without compromises.

Crash Test Joey

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I don't disagree with most of your post. I do want to point out, though, that an LS1/T56 swap into an FC or FD can look just as "stock" as any V8 into an S10. It will also work better than stock in all aspects, even fuel mileage.

I don't know what area of the forum this thread originated in, nor should it matter - it is now here, and this is the "other engine conversions" area and is EXACTLY where he should be asking questions like this. He shouldn't have to go to torquecentral.com to get answers, advice or comments. If he doesn't get the technical answers he needs, that's ok - but I don't see why there are so many flames involved. The RX7 is a car, not a friggin chariot of the gods.

Disclaimer: I KNOW this argument has been had 1000 times before. I just felt like posting my opinion in THIS one

RotaryResurrection

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To open the hood of a domestic pickup truck and see a big domestic v8 is one thing...to open the hood of a lightweight japanese sportscar and see the same old domestic v8 is another. Not to mention the "redneck style" hood scoops and air filters sticking up that most v8 swaps require. It just...sort of doesnt flow, to me. You know what I'm talking about...anyone who's involved in building custom cars/bikes/whatever has their own expectations of style, and they can recognize whether a particular setup "flows" together. I just think domestic engine swaps into japanese cars, of any kind, don't really flow that well...it takes away from the overall feel of the car.

I've DRIVEN v8 swapped FC's. They feel fast as hell, but as a driver of FC's for 7 years or more, I can tell you that I was more nervous in pushing the car than if it were rotary powered. IT did have top end pull, but not what you're used to...downshifting and gear ranges were drastically different, and it felt okay in teh turns, not pretty awesome like normal. The weight argument aside, you do lose something by putting the big v8 up in the front of a 7.

Why not? Is that not the PURPOSE of that forum? IS not the PURPOSE of this forum to support rx-7s and rotary engines (since they go hand in hand in most cases)? Not a lot of people here know jack about v8's and sure don't know much about swapping them in. So why ask here?

Crash Test Joey

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The LS1 FC's and FD's I have seen cleared the hood with no problem at all. And other than one that chose to run "Corvette" covers on his engine, it looks no less stock than anything else in there. If you were selling one on a used car lot, you could convince anyone who didn't know to look for a rotary that that engine was supposed to be there. You're speaking from a rotary enthusiast point of view, not an RX7 enthusiasts.

As far as domestic V8's under the hood of domestic trucks, the engine in my Tahoe would look FAR from stock under the hood of my S10. It could be made to look like it was squeezed in there by the factory, but it wouldn't look any more stock than an LS1 in an RX7. I've seen them both.

Lastly, the "V8RX7" section of Torquecentral is a small section of an enthusiasts board. Just like the "Other engine conversions" section of RX7club.com is a section of an RX7 enthusiasts board. This section was MADE for this type of question. THAT is why he should be allowed to ask it here. Until a moderator of this board informs me that this section was a joke and nobody should *really* ask about anything but rotaries in here, I will continue to think this way.

JoeZoom

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I am going to chime in here also as I now have a LT1-RX7 that is now one of the most dependable cars I have ever owned. I have owned seven RX-7's ranging from 1979-1991 and four of them had the dreaded apex seal (compression loss) and three had coolant seal problems. Now it seems that a simple engine rebuild would be the right choice, however, at a minimum of $1000 to over $2000 for the basic parts, this is simply not acceptable. (to me anyhow)

Yes, I have over $6500 in my swap, but I can get in it each and every day, hit the starter and take off. I get around 25 miles to the gallon and do not have to worry about some bad gas blowing my engine. The hood closes properly (no holes) and has more than enough power for my needs. It also handles just as well as the rotary powered did. I have replaced all of the suspension with Eibach sway bars, struts, energy suspension bushings, etc.

I now have the best of both worlds, a nice looking, great handling car and more than enough power under the hood.

projekt

this is an RX-7 board that answers questions about RX-7s. A question was asked, the question should be answered.

i'm not in anyway implying the original poster could see past his night-glo gauges, however.

WaachBack

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And whats wrong with that? Its his car, his money, he can do what ever he wants with it..grow up man...