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Old 07-24-02, 08:56 PM
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Hello everyone! I have been reading most of the threads and this place is so cool. So much to learn. Anyways I have an old Ford Cortina(65 MkI) with a street ported 12a. Exhaust is composed of a Racing beat header and straight pipe with a presilencer. Boy its loud. The car was originally my mechanics and the intake setup is from New Zealand with Mikuni carbs. It gets really cold when engine runs. I don't know if this is unique or if its a characteristic of the rotarty engine.
The car is quick it has run low 13's. IMO not bad for a N/A motor. I am looking at my options for more Hp in the future. I want to be able to push around 220-270 hp. I dont know how much I can push a 12A, so my question is what can I do? I can always swap a 13b possibly turbo but I want to try and get the best performance out of this motor before I think about the swap.
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The Racing Beat Holley 4BBL setup is supposed to be real good for power if you are just interested in straight line performance.

Or you can spend $4000 on a new engine and supercharger setup from Atkins . . . or trying swapping in a Turbo II motor.

Lots of ways to go, it's mainly about how much money you have to put into it.

Let's see some pictures if you can!
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Yeah I have the Holley setup as well. I just didn't like the way it ran with that configuration. I was gonna try it again but I cant find the carb heh. I have carbon apex seals and was thinking of changing em out so that I can run Nitrous or Turbo. How much hp do you think I can get out of a bridgeported 12a or is it a waste of time and should look into a 13b.
I'll get some pics this weekend the car is at my parents house. It's a little hard on the eyes I am getting ready to prep it for paint. Fun little car though i think with motor it tips scales around 15-1600 lbs.
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Its a link to a 13b Mk2 Cortina in Australia.

I like the 48ida webers, I had one with... ummm... (I think) 40mm chokes on a fairly big extend port 12a in a 1975 Mazda 1300 Station Wagon... and it used to fly!

THe webers are nice and compact, though the induction noise and lack of a cruise circuit can become annoying.

I now have a 13b bp with 48ida and 42mm chokes in a stripped out 2 door 1300 sedan which has just 2 straight through mufflers on a 2.5" system.... it sounds something like a jet fighter on take-off. And I am still toying with the idea of swapping to a 51ida.

You could do a blow-through turbo conversion on your 12a, or just go a complete 13bt transplant, but you would have to ask just what do you want from the car...
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Thanks for the replies. I haven't driven it much in the last year and took her for a spin yesterday. She still flies. Unfortunetly good ole CHP had to pull me over because he thought I was racing my friend. I was just cruising and was able to talk my way out of a speed ticket or speed contest, who knows what he was up to down to a fix it ticket for my exhaust. I guess if Im cruising I should shift before 9k. Heh. So first things first I guess I need to quiet her down a bit and complete the exhaust. Right now its a header strait pipe to a RB pre silencer dumping right before the rear axle. I would have to admit it was loud. Anyone know off hand the db limit in Cali. I think its measured from 50 ft.
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What kind of drivetrain do you have? If you consider a 13BT swap (which I recommend) you will need the TII drivetrain as well.
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in a country far far away, we have a 96db at 1 metre from the tail pipe, on 45 degree angle at between half and 2/3rds max engine rpm..., or about 90 or 92 db for about an 1986 or 1992 or later car. Kinda sucks, don't it!

I could see that just a presilencer would be loud....
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Originally posted by KraftDinner
What kind of drivetrain do you have? If you consider a 13BT swap (which I recommend) you will need the TII drivetrain as well.
that is not absolutly true. a n/a will work. cant make promises of how much it will hold, but a friend of mine is running high 10's on n/a 2nd gen trany in his rx3. (with a ford rear though) the trany is not the bigest hurdle yet.
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What exactly is a blow thru turbo setup. I am only familiar with components to a F.I Turbo setup. Ive seen pics of carb turbo with carb before the turbo inlet is this a blow thru setup? Is this a special type of carb?
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that woud be a draw through. it is not the easiest thing to setup a carb for blowthrough/drawthrough.
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