Help Mounting my 13b-re cosmo in a b series truck
05-02-15, 01:18 AM
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Help Mounting my 13b-re cosmo in a b series truck
K so I have a fc turboII with a 13b-re fully built and i recently spun out and the the wall at the track n bent my frame now rather then going fc again I want to go mazda pick up truck and i wanted to know how to mount my cosmo engine in the pick up being as there are so many on the market in my area I have the cosmo to fc adaptors too and I did a search but no exact answer to my situation I read somewhere I can use the fc crossmember but have no details I dunno maybe u fab gurus can give me some good help
05-03-15, 10:36 AM
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05-03-15, 01:02 PM
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Front Cover, not timing cover. It is much simpler to use a GSL-SE front cover, they're much easier to find and mount into the chassis the same as the early 13Bs do. As for your turbo's oil drain, are you running a single or the Cosmo/FD twins? If you're running a single turbo, why not just use the REAR drain on the rear iron? If you are still running the twins, you might be able to make it work with a 12A Turbo front cover (and S4 OMP if not running premix) but it might be challenging to find one. Another option would be to modify a GSL-SE front cover with a bung for the oil drain. Just be sure to bolt it down to something solid before attempting to weld. Aaron Cake attempted welding up the OMP opening on a S4 front cover and it apparently didn't go too well in the manner of warping by 0.5mm or so.
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Front Cover, not timing cover. It is much simpler to use a GSL-SE front cover, they're much easier to find and mount into the chassis the same as the early 13Bs do. As for your turbo's oil drain, are you running a single or the Cosmo/FD twins? If you're running a single turbo, why not just use the REAR drain on the rear iron? If you are still running the twins, you might be able to make it work with a 12A Turbo front cover (and S4 OMP if not running premix) but it might be challenging to find one. Another option would be to modify a GSL-SE front cover with a bung for the oil drain. Just be sure to bolt it down to something solid before attempting to weld. Aaron Cake attempted welding up the OMP opening on a S4 front cover and it apparently didn't go too well in the manner of warping by 0.5mm or so.
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05-03-15, 07:10 PM
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Which is a s475 and if i run a gslse/12a front cover I would also have to Invest in a gslse oil pan and a front brace to weld on the trucks frame rail right? And still tap into the front cover right? I have 13b-re to fc mount adaptor kit from banzai so is there a way I can the truck to accept fc mounts? Just wondering
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05-04-15, 08:53 AM
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No point being stupid about semantics, Akagis. Timing cover/front cover is quite obviously the same thing. If you want to get fussy, the distributor/crank angle sensor drive gear which determines the ignition timing is behind this cover, so it's a timing cover.
05-04-15, 10:17 AM
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no point being stupid about semantics, akagis. Timing cover/front cover is quite obviously the same thing. If you want to get fussy, the distributor/crank angle sensor drive gear which determines the ignition timing is behind this cover, so it's a timing cover.
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No point being stupid about semantics, Akagis. Timing cover/front cover is quite obviously the same thing. If you want to get fussy, the distributor/crank angle sensor drive gear which determines the ignition timing is behind this cover, so it's a timing cover.
05-04-15, 10:27 AM
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No point being stupid about semantics, Akagis. Timing cover/front cover is quite obviously the same thing. If you want to get fussy, the distributor/crank angle sensor drive gear which determines the ignition timing is behind this cover, so it's a timing cover.
I have a Turbo2 engine in a b series p/u, I have a early "front cover" with a early oil pan, I had to flip the oil pan backwards in order to clear the original b series crossmember.
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Let's call it a oil pump cover instead or maybe a stationary gear cover? Its always been know as a front cover, wht try to make new names for it and confuse the newbies. I have a Turbo2 engine in a b series p/u, I have a early "front cover" with a early oil pan, I had to flip the oil pan backwards in order to clear the original b series crossmember.
05-04-15, 05:34 PM
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Let's call it a oil pump cover instead or maybe a stationary gear cover? Its always been know as a front cover, wht try to make new names for it and confuse the newbies.
I have a Turbo2 engine in a b series p/u, I have a early "front cover" with a early oil pan, I had to flip the oil pan backwards in order to clear the original b series crossmember.
I have a Turbo2 engine in a b series p/u, I have a early "front cover" with a early oil pan, I had to flip the oil pan backwards in order to clear the original b series crossmember.
Mazda calls it the Front Cover, so why re-invent the wheel? Pretty sure we have bigger issues that need attention at the moment.
05-05-15, 04:26 AM
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Nobody is reinventing wheels. EVERYBODY knows the timing cover is the front cover. In Australia, everybody calls them timing covers, it's no big deal. I don't even know why we're talking about it. You could have just let it be. Aspergers much.
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In order to flip the oil pan, you have to do two things
1. elongate and plug front and back corner bolt holes, as most of the bolt holes aligned perfectly, except those.
2. modify oil pick up tube. I used a 1987 RX7 pick up tube, had it shortened where the tube bends into the flange to clear the oil pan, and lenghtend to reach the oil properly.
I also used a gsl-se front cover to make it work.
First time I did this I just banged the oil pan and pick up tube, which resulted in oil leaks.
Hope it helps!
1. elongate and plug front and back corner bolt holes, as most of the bolt holes aligned perfectly, except those.
2. modify oil pick up tube. I used a 1987 RX7 pick up tube, had it shortened where the tube bends into the flange to clear the oil pan, and lenghtend to reach the oil properly.
I also used a gsl-se front cover to make it work.
First time I did this I just banged the oil pan and pick up tube, which resulted in oil leaks.
Hope it helps!
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