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Old Aug 23, 2011 | 10:50 AM
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Anyone have a lil know how on tuning a 48Weber IDA? We have completed the TRE dogg, and the initial tune is great but Im looking to maximize the potential Of the carbs and motor. Let me know if you have some pointers and/or if you can adjust carbs like a pro.
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Old Aug 23, 2011 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by AuthoritySucks
Anyone have a lil know how on tuning a 48Weber IDA? We have completed the TRE dogg, and the initial tune is great but Im looking to maximize the potential Of the carbs and motor. Let me know if you have some pointers and/or if you can adjust carbs like a pro.
Wait for mr wacky to chime in.if u dont know now u know comprende?!

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Old Aug 23, 2011 | 11:58 AM
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The haynes weber manual I just picked up is a pretty good source too...
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Old Aug 23, 2011 | 12:03 PM
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Im free this weekend lightweight mikey. bring it over but dont 4get the heineis (not the rucas or heinas) or i amy not be able to tune it . pm me u carb specs and bmring an extra12a pulley in case u dont have a racing beat pulley
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Old Aug 23, 2011 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by WackyRicer
Im free this weekend lightweight mikey. bring it over but dont 4get the heineis (not the rucas or heinas) or i amy not be able to tune it . pm me u carb specs and bmring an extra12a pulley in case u dont have a racing beat pulley
Ya heard light weight?!wacks loves the heineis more than heinas!!!
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Old Aug 23, 2011 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by stevensimon
I.d.o.n.t.k.n.o.w.h.o.w.t.o.t.u.n.e.c.a.r.b.s.b.u. t.i.t.s.h.o.u.l.d.b.e.p.r.e.t.t.y.e.a.s.y.i.f.y.o. u.d.o.a.l.i.t.t.l.e.r.e.s.e.a.r.c.h.f.i.r.s.t.

4 what?! I learn better by doing rather then digging through opinions from members. Im looking for a person who knows how to tune a carb. Not a book to tell me how to do it.
GIVE ME THE FISH. ILL LEARN HOW TO FISH LATER!
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Old Aug 23, 2011 | 06:25 PM
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L just bring it over,.u take it apart and i will tell you the sequence of operation while i drink a cold brewsky. Thats the only way to tell what r inside and for u to learn
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Old Aug 25, 2011 | 06:30 PM
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Yah, don't forget the heineis. Wacky needs to be buss to do a good tuning on Webers, LOL!!!
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Old Aug 28, 2011 | 11:18 PM
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Any updates on ur carb tune?
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Old Sep 2, 2011 | 07:29 PM
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Na, Wacky was "Busy" last weekend. Anyone know a PRO??
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Old Sep 6, 2011 | 11:45 PM
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Try the guys at RRR (rotary racing & reliability) out in Orange. Nelson or Nick should be able to help you out. Nick helped me out a little with my IDA setup when i was having problems. And they can get you any jet you might need...usually within 1-2 days. GL
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Old Sep 7, 2011 | 11:55 AM
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Are you having N E issues with the tune? 48IDA's are pretty decent set up. Actually got a couple of pair still laying around the garage I think.

Basically, with the carb set up your gonna be going through a lot of plugs while tuning (depending how cold your plugs are ). There really isn't that much involved with tuning a carb. In a nutshell you've got:
  1. Velocity Stack - enhance your response/torque (top, bottom, or mid range ) depending on stack height/diameter.
  2. Venturi's - again tuning of your air speed/volume.
  3. Throttle Plate - adjustment
  4. Linkage - Make sure it's not binding and you're throttle plate is vertical at max pedal.
  5. Emotion Tube - where fuel and air mixture takes place.
  6. Air (Main) Jet - goes onto your emotion tube to set air/fuel ratio mixture.
  7. Fuel (Main) Jet - fixed onto your emotion tube to set air/fuel ratio mixture.
  8. Idle Jet - controls fuel at idle.
  9. Mixture Screw's - adjustment for rich/lean (mostly effects idle)

Carb's are simple, limited because everything is based on "Jet Size" or in other words a hole which, is fixed therefore depending on what you are tuning for will effect other area's of driving.

Back in the day used to ALWAYS keep an extra plug set in the car! Also, daily driving usually ran 1 step hotter plugs.....Only changed plugs right before a race to help eliminate the chances of a mis-fire.

One thing you probably want to get your hands on is a synchro meter. Will make throttle plate adjustment a breeze.

Good way to start off call someone like Racing Beat up and see what spec's they recommend for your set up. Once you get that you can change the tune based on the type of driving you want to do. The more "race" tune you go with will cost you fuel/drivability.
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Old Sep 7, 2011 | 12:07 PM
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Oh, yea in case you don't know what a synchro meter looks like (don't know how young you guys are )

I went out into the garage and found this for ya! Took a couple of quick snap shots for ya.

Enjoy!

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Old Sep 7, 2011 | 12:40 PM
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^That's some good info there.
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Old Sep 9, 2011 | 03:29 PM
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Shhheeetttt. Hell yeah,
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Old Sep 11, 2011 | 01:14 AM
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Good info ther but a true old school tuner can do it just by ear!just ask wackyricer!
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Old Sep 12, 2011 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by WhiteRice_7
Good info ther but a true old school tuner can do it just by ear!just ask wackyricer!
Not doubting that one bit but, I'm a numbers type of guy. More information you have, doesn't hurt. Harvesting data can make a difference... F1 set the standard... I think the best the rest of us can do is just try to keep up
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Old Sep 17, 2011 | 11:50 AM
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Still need a tuner!!
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Old Sep 19, 2011 | 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by AuthoritySucks
Still need a tuner!!
I guess u can lead a horse to water,but u cant force him to drink it......
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Old Sep 19, 2011 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by AuthoritySucks
Still need a tuner!!
If you really need a tuner, and your in Los Angeles. Check out Jeff McCall at Rotary Power (I think) cant remember his company's name. He's in Gardena CA right off 182nd St & Western Ave (Harvard to be exact). He's super old school and has been doing this for decades.

Good Luck!
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Old Sep 21, 2011 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by AuthoritySucks
Na, Wacky was "Busy" last weekend. Anyone know a PRO??


Next time give me me at leasr a 24hr notice, be sure to have a 42 and. 43 ve turies 150 air or less, 200 main and 65 n 70 idle jet. I finally got a day off since 3rd quarter just ended. I haye smart phones lol
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Old Sep 21, 2011 | 12:32 PM
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That gauge is for the newbies somewhat helpful but without playing with other components it is somewhat useless. No disrespect to jeff but he isnt in my list of local carb tuner. anyone can just pull a racing beat catalog or scca rule book but too slow for street use
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Old Sep 21, 2011 | 01:15 PM
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Old Sep 21, 2011 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by WhiteRice_7
Good info ther but a true old school tuner can do it just by ear!just ask wackyricer!
That's correct, That gauge is only for the idle anyway, It will never replace a good ear and experience. I would contact Albert at rotary engineering, Johnny PHE or Jeff Mcall at rotary power, All old school racers with results not just forum hype.
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 12:17 AM
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That's correct, That gauge is only for the idle anyway, It will never replace a good ear and experience. I would contact Albert at rotary engineering, Johnny PHE or Jeff Mcall at rotary power, All old school racers with results not just forum hype.
Thanks for the compliment Jose. When you coming back to Cali.
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