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Old May 16, 2012 | 06:20 PM
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How difficult is it to pull a 13bt by hand w/o an engine lift? I lost contact w/ someone that was gonna help me do it that way so I was wondering how hard it is. Thank you, & please keep the sarcasm & bitchy comments to a low
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Old May 17, 2012 | 01:03 AM
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I pulled my engine out with a lift, then couldn't get it back in the right spot with the lift, so i set it on the subframe and wrestled it into position by hand. I'm not a very muscular guy (6'2", 145lbs wet) and i could JUUUUUUST barely pick the keg up by myself to move it around.

two bigger guys, a 2x4 and some ratchet straps could probably set it in place just fine.

TL;DR Just buy a decent engine hoist or borrow one from a friend
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Old May 17, 2012 | 01:36 AM
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There are rental places that will rent you a lift. Doing an engine pull without a lift is not smart and the chances you will damage something are high.

Do it right.
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Old May 17, 2012 | 07:18 AM
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Just a shortblock is about 200 lbs. IIRC. And it's an awkward weight without convenient handles when you need one. It can be done. Against my better judgement I recently helped someone pull theirs. But IMO it isn't worth breaking or damaging something, or worse... hurting someone.
+1 for renting a lift.
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Old May 17, 2012 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Gringo Grande
There are rental places that will rent you a lift. Doing an engine pull without a lift is not smart and the chances you will damage something are high.

Do it right.
This.
Quit being Cheap and trying to hurt yourself.Save the aggravation for a divorce after you spend time with the new engine and the Wife never sees ya!
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Old May 17, 2012 | 10:02 AM
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lol Two people and a ladder did the trick for me. This pic is of the new one going in.

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Old May 17, 2012 | 10:26 AM
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I dunno where you live, but it was only $33 a day to rent an engine hoist here. That's significantly less than paying the chiropractor bills after you throw out your back trying to lift the thing.
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Old May 17, 2012 | 11:35 AM
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It makes about as much sense to go to a chiropractor than to not get a lift. But that's another topic.
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Old May 17, 2012 | 11:35 AM
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Much MORE expensive thatn that. Thats BS bc its in the hundreds to rent one here at all the places I've called
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Old May 17, 2012 | 12:59 PM
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Are you sure you're asking for an engine hoist and not a lift? If you say lift they may think you're talking about one of these:


Because a new engine hoist isn't that expensive. Here's a mid-ranged one on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000CO9YME/...hvptwo=&hvqmt=
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Old May 17, 2012 | 04:44 PM
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As someone who is physically capable of picking up a short block and walking around with it for short distances, but doesn't because it is stupid, I quote a friend who tore his pec while doing sets of 12 with 400+ pounds.

"I realized, WTF am I doing? I'm 35yrs old and I'm not a professional athlete. No one needs to life that much weight, I'm a dumb ***."

This individual now does high reps with 225 but never goes into the 300's. The point? Just because you can, doesn't mean you should...not worth it at all unless you are saving a child trapped under a car or something similar.

Also...when you rent a hoist, make sure it has a load balancer...makes a huge difference.
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Old May 17, 2012 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by audoetuk
How difficult is it to pull a 13bt by hand w/o an engine lift? I was wondering how hard it is. Thank you, & please keep the sarcasm & bitchy comments to a low
Hmm.
Well,it isn't easy,you've been told that it isn't easy
Also been warned about Hurting yourself.
It's Stupid when the tools are available.It saves time,skin,Damage to the Car.
Harbor Freight carries engine hoists.
http://www.harborfreight.com/catalog...q=engine+hoist
I got a Used engine hoist for 120 Cdn..I sold it for MORE..so I made money by Buying it!..
...But you are set to do it..so I guess your friends will see you ,on the porch,recuperating from a hernia or pulled muscle,while they go off with Chicks and have fun..
It's hard to give advice to someone who is already set in their ways,and even if given a new approach they won't accept it.
So..I wish you luck either way..the easy way or the hard way.Personally,I would rather live to fight another day.( and use tools..not a buddy that is called one.!)
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Old May 17, 2012 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Gringo Grande
Also...when you rent a hoist, make sure it has a load balancer...makes a huge difference.
I was wondering if you could tell me if a load balancer and load leveler are basically the same thing? As far as I understand a load balancer just has 2+ chains that attach to whatever you're lifting, where as a load leveler has 2 chains with a "box" that can raise one side over the other. But would a load leveler also achieve the same thing as a load balancer? Or would you kind of have to use one or the other?

Sorry if this is obvious ><
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Old May 17, 2012 | 08:19 PM
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hit my link.there is a pic of it.
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Old May 18, 2012 | 07:21 AM
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Na if I was set I wouldn't post this question
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Old May 20, 2012 | 11:33 PM
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I've heard of people using a come along. I would magine that a swingset and come along would work just fine... A cherry picker is well worth the money, though.
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Old May 23, 2012 | 07:47 PM
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Harbor freight cheapo engine hoist = $200. Not to shabby either, between me and my friends, Ive put mine through about 10 engine swaps/pulls now and it still works great.
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