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I know these engines can make crazy HP but what would be a torque number if you were making 300-400hp on a TII/T2?
Torque depends on how much boost you are running in the low RPM. I made 380rwhp/300rwtq on a normal 57mm turbo on my FC and 420rwhp/420rwtq on my FC with a 57mm EFR turbo the same size with bigger exhaust housing.
Mykl88
I am more interested in the transmissions capabilities on the TII and T2 cars.
How much different are the 13B engines NA vs. Turbo?
Mike
TII transmissions are pretty robust. My original went out after ~180,000 miles with ~40,000 of that me abusing it till it stripped 3rd gear after having bearing noise for a year of racing with the 380hp/300tq turbo.
Then I put in an unknown used unit (didn't really like to shift) with the 420hp/420tq turbo and it was also fine drag racing on ET Street radials and parking lot/kart track racing and street driving with Maxxis RC-1.
How much different are the 13B engines NA vs. Turbo?
13B NA engine block shares same apex seals, corner seals, side seals, most soft seals, bearings and stationary gears, and eccentric shaft as 13BT - but the rest of the parts are different.
The transmission, drive line, rear end and axles are different on 13B NA cars and 13BT cars as well in case you were not already aware.
I know these engines can make crazy HP but what would be a torque number if you were making 300-400hp on a TII/T2?
Torque depends on how much boost you are running in the low RPM. I made 380rwhp/300rwtq on a normal 57mm turbo on my FC and 420rwhp/420rwtq on my FC with a 57mm EFR turbo the same size with bigger exhaust housing.
Same max boost on both results (@ what boost please)? Engine a street port S4? and what RPM was max boost reached on the 420/420 #s? thx
You should be good to around 500hp and at least 20psi on a stock internals. I was running 15lbs (on a single turbo setup), seeing full boost by 3800-4k, with a mild street port, and still had PLENTY of headroom with stock internals. I think a lot of ppl would be surprised by the abuse and power capabilities of a bone stock FD motor..? But if you're planning to make power into the high 400's and running 18-19+lbs of boost, it'd probably be in your best interest to start looking into some beefier internals, if only for the sake of the added piece of mind.
Torque depends on how much boost you are running in the low RPM. I made 380rwhp/300rwtq on a normal 57mm turbo on my FC and 420rwhp/420rwtq on my FC with a 57mm EFR turbo the same size with bigger exhaust housing.
TII transmissions are pretty robust. My original went out after ~180,000 miles with ~40,000 of that me abusing it till it stripped 3rd gear after having bearing noise for a year of racing with the 380hp/300tq turbo.
Then I put in an unknown used unit (didn't really like to shift) with the 420hp/420tq turbo and it was also fine drag racing on ET Street radials and parking lot/kart track racing and street driving with Maxxis RC-1.
The transmission, drive line, rear end and axles are different on 13B NA cars and 13BT cars as well in case you were not already aware.
That's some good info, also great to hear! In my engine swap I'm planning on being around 300ft/lbs.
Yeah I know about the driveline, R type trans used in MPV, B2600i, and RX7 Turbo. M type used in RX7 na, Miata, and B2200
Good news- you will not overstress your motor, trans, rear end with the TD06-20G as it is limited to the same power/flow as the stock twin turbos.
on gasoline people make ~350rwhp @15psi and max the turbo at ~370rwhp @whatever boost you can get it to hold on a rotary.
On 100% Ethanol alcohol you will make a bit more than the above figures and easily be able to max out the turbo. You will need very big injectors- Four Bosch EV14 2000cc and a very high flow fuel pump.
TD06-20G is what Greddy kit uses as street car turbo for rotaries.
If running on 100% Ethanol no reason for two maps/boost levels on this turbo as it won't be able to hold much over 20psi on a rotary due to its small compressor size.
I just made 388 whp to the wheels with my 20g, courtesy or Nelson Severio. Peak boost of 17 lbs, but 388 at 15 lbs
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