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Old 06-06-05, 10:58 AM
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Well I have decided recently to sell my integra and get an FC. I have never had a Turbo car before and was wondering what exactly do u do to a car that is already turboed. I will later go and research stuff on this site. But i just wanted to know what are peoples first mods. I am a very curious person and ask alot of questions. Well if anybody wants to im me its Itrkid9786. Thanks See ya later
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what exactly do u do to a car that is already turboed.
Get a bigger turbo?
Old 06-06-05, 12:12 PM
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lol, i am guessin there are certain steps to getting a bigger turbo...and plus i dont think a bigger turbo is good for daily driving. How many pounds of boost does the Turbo Rx7 run stock?
Old 06-06-05, 12:24 PM
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I don't know too much about FC's any more, I haven't owned one in 5+ years.
I believe they pull about 8 lbs ( i could be wrong )

Many people run big turbos and drive car's around daily.

Steps for supporting more power or bigger turbos are always more fuel, more fuel delivery, more air, and engine management.

I'll let the FC guys get specific.
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Keeping in mind that rotary engines go boom when AFRs go lean, (even for a split second), the fuel and engine management are much more important than with boingers. Too many folks start playing with rotaries and figure they can tune it later - well, if you lean it out (as flow and turbo mods do) you get much worse than a little pinging. The fuel mods and tuning adjustments must always be sufficient, unless you like rebuilding your engine.

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Old 06-06-05, 12:55 PM
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you just do everything you can to an NA car plus it'll suport more power because it has lower compression so you can put more stuffs in the engine.

btw 86-88 turbos are 5.5 psi and 89-91 turbos are 7.5 psi.

the stock turbo (at least the S5 turbo) will support up to like 12 psi.

if you have any questions you can pm me.

where in md are you?

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Old 06-06-05, 01:25 PM
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Build up the fuel system (larger fuel pump, injectors, steel braided hoses for added safety), then the cooling system (oil cooler, radiator, intercooler suited to the turbo and driving situation, NOT the largest intercooler you can find), air induction and exhaust (wrapped/coated exhaust), stand alone engine management, and larger turbo suited to your driving style. Anywhere in between there, when you're ready for a rebuild, you can get your motor ported to allow more air and fuel into the engine which equals more power (and lower gas mileage but o well)
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Im surprized no one has mentioned a rebuild.

Considering the nature of the vehicles we drive FB - FD if I were seriously looking at long term ownership, which I am with my FD, I would first of all be looking into coolant and breathing mods (a topic geared more so to the FD than anything), then a rebuilt motor.

Then and only then, after I was sure previous abuse was not an issue, would I consider more fuel/air, managment and bigger turbo(s). Or simply boost controler.

Just my .02 Cents
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i would recomend starting off with an na fc just so you can learn the nature of the rotary. otherwise youll be like myke (eage8) and just get to look at it and never drive it.
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Originally Posted by DaGOATCorollaGTS
Im surprized no one has mentioned a rebuild...
Umm... I did

Originally Posted by 13Beast REW
... Anywhere in between there, when you're ready for a rebuild, you can get your motor ported to allow more air and fuel into the engine which equals more power (and lower gas mileage but o well)
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Originally Posted by fcrx88
i would recomend starting off with an na fc just so you can learn the nature of the rotary. otherwise youll be like myke (eage8) and just get to look at it and never drive it.
I agree, however, if the person not just knows but understands the principle's behind how an N/A car operates and feels as well as has some level of mechanical skill (atleast enough to confidently remove and replace an intake manifold), then starting off with a turbo rotary should be to much of an issue. A major factor in a person new to rotaries keeping one on the road is having enough money to maintain the vehicle and then having the willingness to maintain and build the car correctly.

Its my personal belief that a vehicle should be returned to as close to stock performance as possible to persuing any level of extra performance modification. Yes, this does waste a little money in the long run but you understand the underpinnings of the vehicle before going and changing things as well as being sure your vehicle was a solid platform for modification to begin with.

My second car was my FD after being the 5th owner of 4-banger 93 ford probe. I've never been rich and my FD has kept my pockets empty since the first day I brought it home but I've learned so much from owning a car that I was truely satified with rather than settling for something else that I wouldn't value as much. That love of the car made me learn to maintain and eventually build and rebuild rotaries.

If you want the turbo, go for the turbo, just make sure you hang with some people that really know about the car and can help you out along the way. Also try to do all the work yourself but don't be afraid to ask for a hand.
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Yes... do all the work ya self.. there are very few mechanics that works on rotarys.. and if they do... they will charge you alot more.. Its best to just hang out with the people on the forums for support and help..

btw.. what part of maryland are ya located?
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Originally Posted by fcrx88
i would recomend starting off with an na fc just so you can learn the nature of the rotary. otherwise youll be like myke (eage8) and just get to look at it and never drive it.
haha, ouch...

I know how a rotary works better than most... I just don't have the time or money to fix mine

but it is fun to look at
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Starting off with a good base is always a good start. Fix what's broken, Do preventive work and strengthen what you have currently. Have fun with it.

I know a lot of people that bought a car new or used and right off the bat started to modify it. All of them wished they took more time with the car in stock form and really learned the in's and out's.

It all depends on the owner. I'm not too interested in rolling with 500hp+ .. my AE in stock form is just right for me.
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Ahh i c, well i am Gaithersburg area of MD, near Shady grove. I have still sellin my integra if anybody wants to buy or trade their turbo fc for it? Please let me know ok. Thanks. As for tuning yeah Tuning is a very very very important factor of boosting a car. It can mean the difference between running lean and blowing up, or the car being just right. Also it can mean a difference in horsepower and torque produced by the car. Well if anybody wants to meet up with me to talk more bout stuff like this i would be very happy to do so. Also i need to know the mechanics of a rotary engine. I know the basis like what kind of engine it is and how it is designed but i dont know some other stuff...i'll ask more questions later. See ya guys peace

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we should be having a meet sometime soon... I think there is going to be one on the 26th of june at the fuddruckers in columbia. I'll have to make a thread about it. you're more than welcome to come if you'd like. other than that just just go into the maryland guys thread, there are always people that need an extra pair of hands to help them with stuff. and you can learn a lot about RX-7s that way.

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Old 06-07-05, 01:02 PM
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I work in Rockville. If you want to drop by sometime during the day and talk about RX-7s, drop me a PM. If you're lucky I'll help you buy one too :P
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The really short answer?

1 - Run more boost
2 - Buy a bigger turbo
3 - open up the intake/exhaust so you get more total airflow/min through the engine

Oh yeah... and if you make a mistake on most cars, it just bucks or runs crappy.. and you try again. If you make a mistake on an RX-7, you put in a new engine. So be careful!

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Old 06-07-05, 04:38 PM
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wow, thanks for the warning. I'll remember that hehe =).
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Originally Posted by eage8
haha, ouch...

I know how a rotary works better than most... I just don't have the time or money to fix mine

but it is fun to look at

i wasnt trying to say you dont know they rotary it just always sits there cause its always broken cause you beat it so hard
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Originally Posted by fcrx88
i would recomend starting off with an na fc just so you can learn the nature of the rotary. otherwise youll be like myke (eage8) and just get to look at it and never drive it.

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